They're going to "fact check" him and say it's "only" 80,000 that die in the US every year from the flu and that the flu shot is not a "vaccine", further assuring the dispensing of said red pills.
Follow the money.........
2008 stimulas......
' Rona Stimulas
They have these so they can give out money with no checks on where it's going. I've had a theroy for a long time that the Arab spring was funded with extra funds from the 2008 stimulas. There was a report I remember hearing that they had 100s of millions dollars come up missing in early 2009 never heard anything about it again.
It’s rather convenient how the Arab spring took out every government that opposed US intervention in the Middle East right up until Russia called Barry’s bluff in Syria.
It's brilliant. They are going to factually advise that COVID killed TWICE as many people as the Flu. It's TWICE as deadly! And people are going to take a look around at their communities devastated by lockdown, unemployment and rioting and ask themselves "so COVID19 killed twice as many people I know that died last year from the flu? - wait, I don't personally know anyone who has just up and died from the Flu, ever."
Best part is that in the fact check they're going to have to admit that there have been years with over 100k, which is precisely what he said, and they will still label it as misleading.
Then they will go on to explain how not all of those people died from the flu because many of them had underlying conditions, at which point the red half of the country will do the Nic Cage face "YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY?"
Yep we fucked up. I think in 2020 we lost America. I don't know if we can get her back. In history books 2020 will be the year where America was no longer the same anymore.
If there's one thing the virus has done for me this past year, it's gotten me to absolutely hate and despise fat people. Time and again it's been the fattest of the fats that have been screaming about how bad the virus is. We're killing them by not wearing a mask they yell at us! They claim that I'm putting their health at risk by not wearing a mask. Well, fuck, them.
If they cared about their health so much they'd put down that 4th donut, go for a run, and lift some weights, but they don't do that. They never do that because that's hard and requires self-discipline which they have none of. But wearing a mask? That's easy! That doesn't require any effort and then the fatty can feel like they're taking care of themself!
But oh no! Look over there! It's a person that's not in terrible shape and, and... THEY'RE NOT WEARING A MASK! Don't they know that they're directly putting the fatty at risk!? It's not the 6th chili dog that he's shoveling down its gullet for breakfast, no, no no no no no... it's that person over there who won't wear a mask!
I'm so fucking sick and tired of the fatties ruining everything for the rest of us and most of all, I'm sick of being held responsible for their shitty health.
I have one neighbor who works for the Red Cross and she's a lot like this. Worst of all, she's a hypocrite who complains about being mistreated in the U.S. because of her slightly brown complexion, yet she makes excuses for why her people abuse and torture minorities in her own home country.
The amount of people who believe freedom and liberty comes with a contingncy where they halve to be placed on hold "during exceptional circumstances" baffles me.
Your fundamental rights aren't protected so long as they're easy to recognize. Moments like these are precisely when they matter the most.
I admit that I lapsed in my integrity when this all kicked off. I'd been keeping up to date on Wuhan, told family and friends that we're in for a Hell of a ride, and I was made fun of for stocking up on the food I knew would be panic-purchased once people realized what was happening.
I was in favor of lockdowns at first because I shook when I was scared. It was like this massive cloud of the unknown coming at us. I don't believe the fear was unjustified and I do believe the virus had more bite to it at first (which seemed to mutate into a significantly more benign strain early on), but even though the fear may have been justified, I'm still kicking myself over giving into the desire for security.
What blows my mind is that with our enhanced understanding of how it works, who it affects, how to treat it, etc., people still treat it how I was in the first week or so of shit getting real.
Apologies for the rant. I think I'm especially frustrated with people since I see my first-few-weeks-self in their attitudes today.
I think the first few moments were the various states who immediately jumped on the opportunity to play tyrant in a way that can't be justified as "we did what we thought was best in a moment of fear," i.e. churches being shut down, encouraging reporting neighbors for violating distancing guidelines, restricting which goods you could/could not purchase, etc. that snapped me out of it for the most part. That in addition to the first protests (the anti-lockdown folks) made me realize "wait a fucking second, theyre right, wtf are we doing to ourselves?).
At that point I was back to a good baseline, but the riots and protests are what did me in for good. I'd known at this point that the virus is only contracted if you're in an enclosed space with a certain viral load for a certain amount of time. Outside was perfectly safe to not wear a mask so long as people continued to not spit directly into strangers' mouths.
But the fucking riots.. i couldn't believe how fucking blatant the media went from calling a handful of people protesting the shut downs were terrorists using intimidation, while my city was literally burning to the ground and being called a peaceful protest.
I think all in all, it was maybe the 2nd week of fear mongering by the time I broke out of the hysteria. I took it seriously in the sense that I have family who are vulnerable, but I just behaved how I do during a flu season (wash my hands more often, keep active, pay attention to symptoms, etc.), just with the added piece of "get in and get out" when shopping (since enclosed spaces with certain viral loads are where most of the risk lies).
That being said, I don't really care how others go about it. Family members with vulnerabilities are my problem - not theirs. Its up to my family members to decide what they're comfortable with, up to me to agree, my responsibility to be calculated with my outings, my responsibility to get tested before a flight to see 'em, etc. The idea that others' lives must revolve around my family and my problems is absurd.
Again, sorry for the long rant. My mind's all over the place atm.
What makes me angry more than anything are all the people in jail right now, for months, without a trial date because of corona. The court went over their speedy trial date and say it's okay because corona. Under Constitutional law, if you don't get your speedy trial, all charges are dropped with prejudice and you cannot be charged again. But, nope. Corona.
Now, you might be one of those ignorant people who shrug and think it's just violent criminals sitting in jail, but let me tell you, one of these people are a college kid who was put in jail for making an internet joke about his AR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSgkmH92nE
Fuck I laugh. The majority of deaths are in nursing homes where gam gam was already abandoned.. but she kicks the bucket from essentially old age, and everyone is on trump like he personally killed her. People are dumb.
No, I care about my grandmothers, and because I do, I take care of them myself instead of shuffling them off into a fucking concentration camp staffed by minimum wage morons.
I don't give a shit about other peoples' grandmothers, and apparently neither do they, or they wouldn't have left them to die in giant petri dishes that we all knew were death traps.
Did Cuomo care about old people when he ordered covid positive patients into nursing and living facilities among the most vulnerable populations? Or gov Wolf? Nearly half of deaths were from nursing care facilities, then they used those deaths to shut down the country and blame Trump for both.
I went into First watch to get my to-go order. The snowflakes literally melted because I didnt wear a mask. I refused. They screamed for the manager! I told them they either sell me the food or they throw it away. I have no problem going to Kekes. The stupid snowflake took my money and made many passive aggressive remarks. I told her not my job not my problem! This is in Florida which is 100% OPEN and no more mask manadate
"The whole state of California is deceived about reality. We were in court today and our attorneys presented a statistic to the court that is staggering. The statistic is this: if you’re between the ages of 50 and 64 in California, you have a 1 in 19.1 million chance of dying of COVID, and yet this whole state is locked down in the most severe level."
You have an even greater chance of dying in a car accident driving home with your oversized novelty cheque after having collected your lottery winnings.
It's funny that you seem to recognize the failure of your logic but don't apply it to your own argument.
If the Powerball were played multiple times every single day, and every time someone went outside they bought a ticket, your snarky attempt at legitimacy would make sense.
You clearly understand that in order for someone to be part of a statistic, they must first be part of that statistical sample. If you're going to compare every single person actively playing powerball, then you need to compare every single person being exposed to covid.
Your statistical hypothesis has to be based on similar circumstances, otherwise comparing them is less than useless.
Millions of people play powerball every week. Millions of people have been exposed to covid. Far more people have died from covid.
If you're going to start including the people who aren't exposed to covid in your statistics, then you have to start including the people who don't play powerball. You can't compare odds from a small segment of the population and use it to make a comparison to the entire population.
But please, keep telling me how I don't understand statistics.
Calculating someone’s odds of dying from something isn’t bound by their population... It sounds like they multiplied several probabilities together, I wouldn’t mind seeing how it was arrived at
I think they have a point, they are just making it poorly.
If only 1 in 19 million die of COVID, that means there would only be 2 COVID deaths for that age group in all of California. The number is clearly higher than that, so this statistic is bullshit
No they don't they are dumb. They would have said that the numbers don't match reality if that were the case. Not argue that a 1 in 50 billion chance isn't a real stat because there aren't 50 billion people.
And then their reply to me based on that stat is "Sorry if you don't know how to simplfy fractions." like how is that even your take away? Sorry the person your defending is just a dumb fuck.
So your odds of dying from covid are orders of magnitude LOWER than dying from the flu? Look, I believe the response to covid has been entirely irrational and downright malicious, but the numbers you guys are spreading here are obviously nonsense. I don't think you understood the point of the person you replied to.
That's not how stats work. Stats just give odds of something happening. They don't literally tell you how many people it will happen to.
Simply put, say the odds of dying were 1 in 4. That means your chances of dying are 25%. That does not mean that one person will always die out of every 4 people. It could be none die, or they all could die, or anything in between.
No, but it means in a large enough sample size the actual data will in fact approach that number.
1 in 4 dying doesn't mean 1 person will die out of a group of 4.
It does mean that out of 20 million people, the number of dead will be near 5 million.
The sample size they are dealing with is large enough to provide accurate statistics.
You also have to factor in time frames. There is a 100% death rate for every living creature on this planet. But not today.
I suspect they used time frames to extend those numbers because it's easily provably false any other way. As he said, even one person dying in that age range gives the lie to that stat, and a lot more than 1 have died from it.
It's more likely to be something like "On any given day, people 50-64 in California have a 1 in 19 million chance of dying from covid."
What do you mean? Women have a 1 in 7 chance of getting breast cancer
That means 1 in every 7 women, statistically, will end up diagnosed with it
So that's why the Cali stat makes no sense. There are 2.5 million people in that age range, so even if only 100 people died, that's already a 1 in 25,000 chance (still very good odds to be fair)
I don't know about that. Biden said he would let it all continue. And also the old programming seems to show this pandemic was planned years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzktWjOW0fA
Sometimes, I think all this crazy stuff happening is just the old elites trying to cram through their plan on schedule irregardless of Trump.
(Also, based username you got there. I see you're a man of fine tastes, too.)
Biden doesnt know anything. You can bet the globalists will ease up if they get the WH again. Remember Obama in 08? The globalist media had a collective party. And they stopped reporting on negative stories for months. Hollywood and the music industry went apolitical and made fun stuff to make people feel like the world was perfect. Then in 2012 they switched it off.
Sometimes, I think all this crazy stuff happening is just the old elites trying to cram through their plan on schedule irregardless of Trump.
This is exactly what they're doing. I noticed it happening as soon as they lost the election. People rushing the border, big tech censorship increasing, etc. etc.
I said at the time on the_donald, "They're acting like they didn't lose -- just going full steam ahead with their plans."
Here's a fun idea: let's use something liberals have forgotten. It's called "common sense." Remember how we deal with flu season every single year and don't lose our minds? Be smart. Wash your hands. Don't lick random things. If you're sick, stay home.
There are definitely ways to minimize risk without hurting the economy or setting up a government snitch-on-your-neighbors hotline.
It's that part about staying home--when I had to work for other people, across many settings, there were always little breakouts from people who had used up their sick leave, they needed the money, they wouldn't let the crew down, they weren't going to let a cold beat them, etc. Like they deserved some praise for making everyone else sick.
They deserved praise for working hard and fighting through adversity. If they made everyone else sick, it's their manager's fault for not making them go home when they were sick.
Most importantly, take fucking care of yourself. I rarely get more than a mild cough and stuffy nose once a year.
I also don't go overboard on sanitization. Exposure is GOOD for your immune system. An idle immune system not only begins causing autoimmune problems but it isn't ready when it encounters pathogens out in the world. Which is inevitable no matter how careful you are.
Lately it feels like conspiracy theory telling people this stuff about how I live and why.
When we first started getting more information on the virus (how it was only really a threat for the elderly and immunocompromised) my first thought was ok lets just protect them. 6 months later we are still no closer to fixing this damn thing and people are wildly unknowledgeable about what the virus does and who it harms. Seriously at the first task force briefing Birx was talking about how we have to protect old people and AIDS patients but today children aren't in schools, offices aren't open, and the country is tearing itself apart. The media still won't hold politicians who intentionally exposed the most vulnerable population to the virus and killed them in droves accountable. We haven't stopped the spread and have introduced health measures that are utterly useless and modeled after the country that let this spread in the first place.
95% of deaths are 50+ y/o.
And 80% of deaths are 65+ y/o.
So if you're younger than 65 y/o, or especially 50, the odds of dying from coronavirus looks a lot different. Especially since only 15% of the coronavirus cases are people over 65 y/o, but they still make up 80% of the deaths.
I really wonder how people who only watch/read MSM would react to these numbers. Less than 1000 people who are younger than 30 have died with COVID less than 3000 who are younger than 40.
i think one of the more interesting things is the testing data. We are mass testing population groups that face little mortality rate from the virus and doing far less testing on those who are at highest risk. We've administered over 119 million tests nation wide and most of it is being given to people who feel little effect from it at all.
Me too. It's been endless arguments for 7 months now. I've watched people who were anti mask and anti shutdown slowly turn to being scared Karen's and I just eventually shut my mouth over it. The argument was lost. It drove me nuts every damn time Trump would come out and sell the line that Corona was as bad as the media said. It was the one place in the last 4 years that I think he was patently wrong. I'm glad he's coming around, I just wish it happened 7 months ago.
GEOTUS is all in on nuking the hysteria. Just when I thought he might play politics for once. NOPE. WuFlu panic BTFO.
Question is do more people believe the president or the media because they are diametrically opposed at this point. This will be America's litmus test.
I think he is. This scam is being used for multiple leftist purposes, but the main one right now is to influence and corrupt the election. Trump has nothing to lose by taking it on and destroying its power over people. He needs to start pushing red state governors like Abbott in Texas to open up and kill the mandates. Get those states open and it'll put pressure on blue states. He needs to fight this 100% as it's the biggest threat our country has seen in decades.
I really hope he's seeing this as our biggest threat. It's an evil cult that's taken over and destroying the country. The way he ripped that mask off and stuffed it in his pocked last night at the WH, he had a look of disgust on his face and that was important.
He's back and he's stronger than ever. If I was Biden, I wouldn't even show up for debate no.2. Trump is on the war path. You know the saying, what doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger. 3 days. 3, fucking, days. That's it. He went into WR for precautionary measures. The media had a field day with it. Trump is in the danger zone. He's in bad shape. The next 24-48 hours are critical. Anonymous sources and bullshit. 3 days later, he's standing at the White House, saluting Marine 1, giving the middle finger to everyone. Joe Biden would be shitting his diaper's and reading The Garbage Pail Kids comics.
If they're doing illegal and unconstitutional things (they are), imo he should be able to find SOME way to stop them since it's NOT their right to infringe on our rights.
But those "states rights" are infringing on the citizens constitutional rights and per the constitution is UNCONSTITUTIONAL so they can take their "states rights" and get fucked.
I know he had to wait until "flu season" to be like this but I wish he was like this with other deadly diseases and illnesses. The COVID cult has been left to develop for far too long.
Where I live Cancer has killed more people since March than COVID. Suicide rates are skyrocketing. The overall mental health is failing. Millions across the world face being sunk into poverty through unemployment because governments only care about COVID. Nothing else matters to them.
The only pandemic people should be worried about is the COVID cult. They will happily watch places collapse as long as Amazon can still deliver their new Nintendo Switch game.
Military suicide rate is up 20% according to CBS news. If this trend applies nationally, that's 10,000 additional deaths to suicide entirely attributable to lockdown. When you add in all other causes, lockdown has caused 10s of thousands of deaths, indisputably.
What I would like to point out, is despite Trump going along with the virus hysteria lies until this point, they still have said he was denying science and experts, that it is all his fault. So I don't think it helped him at all to not go against the flow. Stick to principles. They will just create a reality that denies you agree with them, even if you are.
are we doing to close down our country? no? then do something about preventing the Governors from doing it. They will go backward in lockdowns if not. They're already scheming to use the Flu as their "second wave of coronavirus" and lock us down again or at least prolong current restrictions. They're trying to make masks, social distancing and expecting big restrictions on daily life a permanent fixture on us just because "disease exists in the world"
He is so absolutely fucking right about this and the Dems will just not let it happen. They would rather we all get depressed and unemployed and lose our friends and family than have trump in office again
Boy, this one is going to really make them spaz out for a while. They've been training their brains to react really violently to "flu" and "COVID" in close proximity in sentences for a long time now.
I said Trump has one of two lanes he has to pick on this coming out of it. With His base or perpetuate the secular burka mentality.
Dear God may we continue this path back to pre corona life. 2020 was trash. My summer was trash and a waste. My favorite season. I will not repeat this next year.
Already seeing leftists say that the flu doesn't kill anywhere close to 100,000 people per year. Have to tell them to check out 1968 - it's not easy dealing with unreasonable people.
I joined this site specifically to say how completely fucking heroic this is. He's right. He's fucking right. COVID-19 is real. It is nasty. But, at worst, it's like have four bad flu seasons in one year, followed by a return to normal as herd immunity kicks in. It isn't worth wrecking the economy for it. The overwhelming majority, even in Trump's demographic, survive. Those who don't are in their 70s or 80s, or have signficant comorbidities. We're getting better at protecting ourselves every day. We shouldn't be afraid of it. Masks are a modern day talisman designed to ward off the fear that we ourselves have invented. This is the bravest statement by a President in 50 years..
Brilliant because now Biden has to either agree or clearly come out in favor of a second shutdown. The people in blue states are going to revolt. They've had enough of their overlords.
Don't let anyone tell you the deaths from flu season are because it's over such a long period of months in the year (October to February). The overwhelming majority of deaths happen over two months from late November to new years.
Surely this means we have to make cancel Thanksgiving, Christmas, and new years right?
Flu season is going to be super bad this year. We've "flattened the curve" which means we've pushed new covid cases into the winter. Hospitals ARE going to be overwhelmed due to the combo of flu, rsv, pnuemonia, and covid.
I know what the cucks and traitors were up to. Using the seasonal flu to justify another 6 months of masks and shutting down the country. Fuck that shit, get ahead of it and end this now.
he can't. The root of the problem is that we declared virus response to the States as a "states issue" so Trump really has no weapons to use if the Democrat Governors declare another state of emergency or use powers to lock down again. Maybe the best he can do is threaten to withhold money from the states, but then he gets screaming that he's "being heartless and doesn't care while people die in <state> because he won't bail them out"
He could give puppies and cupcakes to everyone on a sunny day with rainbows and bouquets of flowers, and the left would still find some way it was going to destroy the world.
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OH SHIT! THIS IS IT!
This will make every single democrat/liberal/lefty shitface go REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Also a nice little subtle redpill
Mine too :(
slayed
Hmm, if an old, obese man who doesn’t work out and eats a lot of fast food beat the rona, why is everyone scared locked at home?
They're going to "fact check" him and say it's "only" 80,000 that die in the US every year from the flu and that the flu shot is not a "vaccine", further assuring the dispensing of said red pills.
They’ve been inflating the flu numbers for years now it’s back to bite them in the ass.
audit the CDC
Follow the money......... 2008 stimulas...... ' Rona Stimulas They have these so they can give out money with no checks on where it's going. I've had a theroy for a long time that the Arab spring was funded with extra funds from the 2008 stimulas. There was a report I remember hearing that they had 100s of millions dollars come up missing in early 2009 never heard anything about it again.
A crisis is too good to waste.
It’s rather convenient how the Arab spring took out every government that opposed US intervention in the Middle East right up until Russia called Barry’s bluff in Syria.
Real world accurate
They are a pharma revolving door so the budget is less important than setting policy. CDC is as swampy as any agency out there.
It's brilliant. They are going to factually advise that COVID killed TWICE as many people as the Flu. It's TWICE as deadly! And people are going to take a look around at their communities devastated by lockdown, unemployment and rioting and ask themselves "so COVID19 killed twice as many people I know that died last year from the flu? - wait, I don't personally know anyone who has just up and died from the Flu, ever."
Best part is that in the fact check they're going to have to admit that there have been years with over 100k, which is precisely what he said, and they will still label it as misleading.
Then they will go on to explain how not all of those people died from the flu because many of them had underlying conditions, at which point the red half of the country will do the Nic Cage face "YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY?"
I wouldn't cry at all over an honest data analysis of anything.
Good, liberal tears are sustenance to me. When they whine, I dine.
great bumper sticker
Great username BTW.
I had liberal friends texting me last week saying this is exactly what they were afraid he would do.
He did it less than 96 hours later. Fucking legend.
NEVER PUT A PAUSE ON THE CONSTITUTION OVER A COLD OR ANYTHING
Yep we fucked up. I think in 2020 we lost America. I don't know if we can get her back. In history books 2020 will be the year where America was no longer the same anymore.
Had a elementary school teacher friend say “we have to give up some freedoms for safety”
I bout threw up.
Ban cars, ban alcohol, ban nicotine, ban allergies, ban junk food, ban cliffs, ban water, all of these things kill so many people REEEE
Ah, that's why they go so hard for abortion. Can't die if you're never born (according to their logic)
Obesity kills waaaaay more than covid ever could.
Better ban all fast food and cornmeal products.
If there's one thing the virus has done for me this past year, it's gotten me to absolutely hate and despise fat people. Time and again it's been the fattest of the fats that have been screaming about how bad the virus is. We're killing them by not wearing a mask they yell at us! They claim that I'm putting their health at risk by not wearing a mask. Well, fuck, them.
If they cared about their health so much they'd put down that 4th donut, go for a run, and lift some weights, but they don't do that. They never do that because that's hard and requires self-discipline which they have none of. But wearing a mask? That's easy! That doesn't require any effort and then the fatty can feel like they're taking care of themself!
But oh no! Look over there! It's a person that's not in terrible shape and, and... THEY'RE NOT WEARING A MASK! Don't they know that they're directly putting the fatty at risk!? It's not the 6th chili dog that he's shoveling down its gullet for breakfast, no, no no no no no... it's that person over there who won't wear a mask!
I'm so fucking sick and tired of the fatties ruining everything for the rest of us and most of all, I'm sick of being held responsible for their shitty health.
People die from tree branches falling on them.
BAN TREES
Agreed. Who ever says one death is too many is an idiot.
Like this https://www.facebook.com/officialteamtrump/videos/1060191667708542
“Those that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-Big Dick Benjamin Franklin
I have one neighbor who works for the Red Cross and she's a lot like this. Worst of all, she's a hypocrite who complains about being mistreated in the U.S. because of her slightly brown complexion, yet she makes excuses for why her people abuse and torture minorities in her own home country.
The worst kind of brown person.
The amount of people who believe freedom and liberty comes with a contingncy where they halve to be placed on hold "during exceptional circumstances" baffles me.
Your fundamental rights aren't protected so long as they're easy to recognize. Moments like these are precisely when they matter the most.
I admit that I lapsed in my integrity when this all kicked off. I'd been keeping up to date on Wuhan, told family and friends that we're in for a Hell of a ride, and I was made fun of for stocking up on the food I knew would be panic-purchased once people realized what was happening.
I was in favor of lockdowns at first because I shook when I was scared. It was like this massive cloud of the unknown coming at us. I don't believe the fear was unjustified and I do believe the virus had more bite to it at first (which seemed to mutate into a significantly more benign strain early on), but even though the fear may have been justified, I'm still kicking myself over giving into the desire for security.
What blows my mind is that with our enhanced understanding of how it works, who it affects, how to treat it, etc., people still treat it how I was in the first week or so of shit getting real.
Apologies for the rant. I think I'm especially frustrated with people since I see my first-few-weeks-self in their attitudes today.
I think the first few moments were the various states who immediately jumped on the opportunity to play tyrant in a way that can't be justified as "we did what we thought was best in a moment of fear," i.e. churches being shut down, encouraging reporting neighbors for violating distancing guidelines, restricting which goods you could/could not purchase, etc. that snapped me out of it for the most part. That in addition to the first protests (the anti-lockdown folks) made me realize "wait a fucking second, theyre right, wtf are we doing to ourselves?).
At that point I was back to a good baseline, but the riots and protests are what did me in for good. I'd known at this point that the virus is only contracted if you're in an enclosed space with a certain viral load for a certain amount of time. Outside was perfectly safe to not wear a mask so long as people continued to not spit directly into strangers' mouths.
But the fucking riots.. i couldn't believe how fucking blatant the media went from calling a handful of people protesting the shut downs were terrorists using intimidation, while my city was literally burning to the ground and being called a peaceful protest.
I think all in all, it was maybe the 2nd week of fear mongering by the time I broke out of the hysteria. I took it seriously in the sense that I have family who are vulnerable, but I just behaved how I do during a flu season (wash my hands more often, keep active, pay attention to symptoms, etc.), just with the added piece of "get in and get out" when shopping (since enclosed spaces with certain viral loads are where most of the risk lies).
That being said, I don't really care how others go about it. Family members with vulnerabilities are my problem - not theirs. Its up to my family members to decide what they're comfortable with, up to me to agree, my responsibility to be calculated with my outings, my responsibility to get tested before a flight to see 'em, etc. The idea that others' lives must revolve around my family and my problems is absurd.
Again, sorry for the long rant. My mind's all over the place atm.
It should always be the individual's choice. "Emergency Powers" must go away in every state / commonwealth.
Even then, many will just cede to the lies and the liars.
We lost just as much in 2001, and for the same bullshit reason.
Bad thing happens.
Government says "Give us more power or bad things will happen"
Sheeple say "Yes Daddy, anything to make us feel better."
Later, new bad thing happens.
Repeat.
The playbook is soo open and obvious, if we as a people don’t wake up we’re completely doomed
The scariest part is that there is a new virus of this level every few years. It's just how shit works.
Now we have set the precedent that we have to shut down the economy and ruin millions of lives every time some chink eats a spider and coughs.
If that doesn't scare the shit out of people, I don't know what will.
A crisis is too good to waste. That quote can be applied to almost anything the government does.
That was the only truth and honesty to come out of the Obama administration
It happened well before 2020. Decades of infiltration, subversion, weak morality, and the removal of God have led the republic to this point.
2020 is simply the year where it is all laid bare for all to see. Demon's dance and angels weep.
And all because Orange Man Bad.
What makes me angry more than anything are all the people in jail right now, for months, without a trial date because of corona. The court went over their speedy trial date and say it's okay because corona. Under Constitutional law, if you don't get your speedy trial, all charges are dropped with prejudice and you cannot be charged again. But, nope. Corona.
Now, you might be one of those ignorant people who shrug and think it's just violent criminals sitting in jail, but let me tell you, one of these people are a college kid who was put in jail for making an internet joke about his AR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSgkmH92nE
FREE KYLE
The liberties protected by the Constitution are not fair-weather freedoms.
Reeee you don’t care about old people!?!
Fuck I laugh. The majority of deaths are in nursing homes where gam gam was already abandoned.. but she kicks the bucket from essentially old age, and everyone is on trump like he personally killed her. People are dumb.
"You don't care about grandmothers?"
No, I care about my grandmothers, and because I do, I take care of them myself instead of shuffling them off into a fucking concentration camp staffed by minimum wage morons.
I don't give a shit about other peoples' grandmothers, and apparently neither do they, or they wouldn't have left them to die in giant petri dishes that we all knew were death traps.
God i hate it so much, democrat governors like whitmer and cuomo are literally sending covid positive patients into retirement homes causing deaths.
But braindead TDS robots are saying trump is killing old people.
I wish i was capable of just laughing at this Clownworld.
Did Cuomo care about old people when he ordered covid positive patients into nursing and living facilities among the most vulnerable populations? Or gov Wolf? Nearly half of deaths were from nursing care facilities, then they used those deaths to shut down the country and blame Trump for both.
I went into First watch to get my to-go order. The snowflakes literally melted because I didnt wear a mask. I refused. They screamed for the manager! I told them they either sell me the food or they throw it away. I have no problem going to Kekes. The stupid snowflake took my money and made many passive aggressive remarks. I told her not my job not my problem! This is in Florida which is 100% OPEN and no more mask manadate
Stellar ... stellar stat from John MacArthur:
"The whole state of California is deceived about reality. We were in court today and our attorneys presented a statistic to the court that is staggering. The statistic is this: if you’re between the ages of 50 and 64 in California, you have a 1 in 19.1 million chance of dying of COVID, and yet this whole state is locked down in the most severe level."
https://protestia.com/2020/10/05/john-macarthur-on-grace-church-opening-we-dont-want-to-kill-people/
You literally have a better chance of winning a million dollars at the Powerball Lottery than dying of the China Virus.
You have an even greater chance of dying in a car accident driving home with your oversized novelty cheque after having collected your lottery winnings.
While at the same time skydiving without a parachute.
200,000 people have not won a million dollars in Powerball.
Even if you just take people with no comorbidities, 10,000 people have not won a million in powerball, not in the same time frame.
I'd say reality is not yours.
Unless you think that your statistical projections should carry more weight than actual data?
I can also claim stupid shit like you're more likely to get eaten by a bear than die from covid, that doesn't make it accurate.
It's funny that you seem to recognize the failure of your logic but don't apply it to your own argument.
You clearly understand that in order for someone to be part of a statistic, they must first be part of that statistical sample. If you're going to compare every single person actively playing powerball, then you need to compare every single person being exposed to covid.
Your statistical hypothesis has to be based on similar circumstances, otherwise comparing them is less than useless.
Millions of people play powerball every week. Millions of people have been exposed to covid. Far more people have died from covid.
If you're going to start including the people who aren't exposed to covid in your statistics, then you have to start including the people who don't play powerball. You can't compare odds from a small segment of the population and use it to make a comparison to the entire population.
But please, keep telling me how I don't understand statistics.
That statistic doesn't make any sense. There are only 2.5 million total people in California in that age range.
If even 1 person died, that would make it 1 in 2.5 million - so 1 in 19 million is impossible.
Calculating someone’s odds of dying from something isn’t bound by their population... It sounds like they multiplied several probabilities together, I wouldn’t mind seeing how it was arrived at
What do you mean? Women have a 1 in 7 chance of getting breast cancer
That means 1 in every 7 women, statistically, will end up diagnosed with it
I'm just going to say it, you're dumb as shit.
That also means 2 in 14,
It also means 20 billion in 140 billion, or 10 billion in 70 billion even though there aren't that many people.....
Did you just sleep through math?
I think they have a point, they are just making it poorly.
If only 1 in 19 million die of COVID, that means there would only be 2 COVID deaths for that age group in all of California. The number is clearly higher than that, so this statistic is bullshit
No they don't they are dumb. They would have said that the numbers don't match reality if that were the case. Not argue that a 1 in 50 billion chance isn't a real stat because there aren't 50 billion people.
And then their reply to me based on that stat is "Sorry if you don't know how to simplfy fractions." like how is that even your take away? Sorry the person your defending is just a dumb fuck.
So your odds of dying from covid are orders of magnitude LOWER than dying from the flu? Look, I believe the response to covid has been entirely irrational and downright malicious, but the numbers you guys are spreading here are obviously nonsense. I don't think you understood the point of the person you replied to.
If you don't know how to simplify fractions, I can't help you.
Oh, you're not just dumb, you're stupid.
You're not just ignorant, you're rude. But I'll school you anyway.
20 billion in 140 billion is still 1 in 7.
1 in 19 million is already simplified, you can't reduce it down.
That's not how stats work. Stats just give odds of something happening. They don't literally tell you how many people it will happen to.
Simply put, say the odds of dying were 1 in 4. That means your chances of dying are 25%. That does not mean that one person will always die out of every 4 people. It could be none die, or they all could die, or anything in between.
No, but it means in a large enough sample size the actual data will in fact approach that number.
1 in 4 dying doesn't mean 1 person will die out of a group of 4.
It does mean that out of 20 million people, the number of dead will be near 5 million.
The sample size they are dealing with is large enough to provide accurate statistics.
You also have to factor in time frames. There is a 100% death rate for every living creature on this planet. But not today.
I suspect they used time frames to extend those numbers because it's easily provably false any other way. As he said, even one person dying in that age range gives the lie to that stat, and a lot more than 1 have died from it.
It's more likely to be something like "On any given day, people 50-64 in California have a 1 in 19 million chance of dying from covid."
What do you mean? Women have a 1 in 7 chance of getting breast cancer
That means 1 in every 7 women, statistically, will end up diagnosed with it
So that's why the Cali stat makes no sense. There are 2.5 million people in that age range, so even if only 100 people died, that's already a 1 in 25,000 chance (still very good odds to be fair)
What do YOU mean? You aren't making any sense.
I've explained myself thoroughly.
If there were only 2.5 million people in California ages 50-64, the states total population would only be like 10 or 12 million.
Wrong. https://www.infoplease.com/us/census/california/demographic-statistics
I don't know why you are being downvoted. The people responding to you have no idea what they are talking about.
Nothing new unfortunately.
Actually you're wrong. There are not 2.5 million ages 50-64. Not sure where you got that, it's not anywhere near that low.
No, you're wrong. https://www.infoplease.com/us/census/california/demographic-statistics
You clearly have never taken a Statistics 101 course.
Provide something of value to the discussion or remain silent.
NOOOO WE MUST STAY AFRAID AND VULNERABLE FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES RRRRREEEEE
Or until a Democrat is in the white house. Then it's back to business as usual, but not a moment before because orange man bad.
I don't know about that. Biden said he would let it all continue. And also the old programming seems to show this pandemic was planned years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzktWjOW0fA
Sometimes, I think all this crazy stuff happening is just the old elites trying to cram through their plan on schedule irregardless of Trump.
(Also, based username you got there. I see you're a man of fine tastes, too.)
Biden doesnt know anything. You can bet the globalists will ease up if they get the WH again. Remember Obama in 08? The globalist media had a collective party. And they stopped reporting on negative stories for months. Hollywood and the music industry went apolitical and made fun stuff to make people feel like the world was perfect. Then in 2012 they switched it off.
This is exactly what they're doing. I noticed it happening as soon as they lost the election. People rushing the border, big tech censorship increasing, etc. etc.
I said at the time on the_donald, "They're acting like they didn't lose -- just going full steam ahead with their plans."
Alex Jones was right again, 2020electioncenter.com
Thanks fren! Good to see another man of culture.
EVERYTHING MUST BE POLITICALLLLLLLLLL
Grab’em by the covid
Here's a fun idea: let's use something liberals have forgotten. It's called "common sense." Remember how we deal with flu season every single year and don't lose our minds? Be smart. Wash your hands. Don't lick random things. If you're sick, stay home.
There are definitely ways to minimize risk without hurting the economy or setting up a government snitch-on-your-neighbors hotline.
It's that part about staying home--when I had to work for other people, across many settings, there were always little breakouts from people who had used up their sick leave, they needed the money, they wouldn't let the crew down, they weren't going to let a cold beat them, etc. Like they deserved some praise for making everyone else sick.
They deserved praise for working hard and fighting through adversity. If they made everyone else sick, it's their manager's fault for not making them go home when they were sick.
Oh, you know some too.
TikTok challenges.
Yup yup!
Most importantly, take fucking care of yourself. I rarely get more than a mild cough and stuffy nose once a year.
I also don't go overboard on sanitization. Exposure is GOOD for your immune system. An idle immune system not only begins causing autoimmune problems but it isn't ready when it encounters pathogens out in the world. Which is inevitable no matter how careful you are.
Lately it feels like conspiracy theory telling people this stuff about how I live and why.
I’ve been saying this since March
Ditto.
When we first started getting more information on the virus (how it was only really a threat for the elderly and immunocompromised) my first thought was ok lets just protect them. 6 months later we are still no closer to fixing this damn thing and people are wildly unknowledgeable about what the virus does and who it harms. Seriously at the first task force briefing Birx was talking about how we have to protect old people and AIDS patients but today children aren't in schools, offices aren't open, and the country is tearing itself apart. The media still won't hold politicians who intentionally exposed the most vulnerable population to the virus and killed them in droves accountable. We haven't stopped the spread and have introduced health measures that are utterly useless and modeled after the country that let this spread in the first place.
This is pure lunacy. Even the CDC's age demographic chart is enough to drive me crazy
An interesting stat from those charts:
95% of deaths are 50+ y/o. And 80% of deaths are 65+ y/o.
So if you're younger than 65 y/o, or especially 50, the odds of dying from coronavirus looks a lot different. Especially since only 15% of the coronavirus cases are people over 65 y/o, but they still make up 80% of the deaths.
I really wonder how people who only watch/read MSM would react to these numbers. Less than 1000 people who are younger than 30 have died with COVID less than 3000 who are younger than 40.
i think one of the more interesting things is the testing data. We are mass testing population groups that face little mortality rate from the virus and doing far less testing on those who are at highest risk. We've administered over 119 million tests nation wide and most of it is being given to people who feel little effect from it at all.
Me too. It's been endless arguments for 7 months now. I've watched people who were anti mask and anti shutdown slowly turn to being scared Karen's and I just eventually shut my mouth over it. The argument was lost. It drove me nuts every damn time Trump would come out and sell the line that Corona was as bad as the media said. It was the one place in the last 4 years that I think he was patently wrong. I'm glad he's coming around, I just wish it happened 7 months ago.
Damn this is next tier spice
GEOTUS is all in on nuking the hysteria. Just when I thought he might play politics for once. NOPE. WuFlu panic BTFO.
Question is do more people believe the president or the media because they are diametrically opposed at this point. This will be America's litmus test.
I think he is. This scam is being used for multiple leftist purposes, but the main one right now is to influence and corrupt the election. Trump has nothing to lose by taking it on and destroying its power over people. He needs to start pushing red state governors like Abbott in Texas to open up and kill the mandates. Get those states open and it'll put pressure on blue states. He needs to fight this 100% as it's the biggest threat our country has seen in decades.
Open our states up!
I just want to enter a restaurant without having to wear a mask. It's strange that covid only attacks at entrances.
It knows not to attack when eating. Didn’t you know that?
It also knows only to attack Republicans.
COVID is an antifa member
Aw shit he is saying things that are obvious again! Look out!
CNN was going CRAZY once Trump landed at the White House especially once he took his mask off.
Democrats went all-in on fake compassion and concern for the 'Rona.
Now Trump is systematically demolishing their narrative.
It's beautiful to watch.
I really hope he's seeing this as our biggest threat. It's an evil cult that's taken over and destroying the country. The way he ripped that mask off and stuffed it in his pocked last night at the WH, he had a look of disgust on his face and that was important.
He's back and he's stronger than ever. If I was Biden, I wouldn't even show up for debate no.2. Trump is on the war path. You know the saying, what doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger. 3 days. 3, fucking, days. That's it. He went into WR for precautionary measures. The media had a field day with it. Trump is in the danger zone. He's in bad shape. The next 24-48 hours are critical. Anonymous sources and bullshit. 3 days later, he's standing at the White House, saluting Marine 1, giving the middle finger to everyone. Joe Biden would be shitting his diaper's and reading The Garbage Pail Kids comics.
Bold of you to assume joe hasn't been doing just that
Well hr does like smelling kids
Noooo do you want to kill grandma you racist bigot? Just wear your mask goy, and don't ask questions.
It’s just a mask. Comply citizen.
Pick up that can
It's the new pants. Wear it in public or be arrested for being lewd.
Trump is running on merit, positively and hope. Joe is running on nothing but fear and will lock us down.
Yeah that is really dumb but par for the course from his campaign.
MAN THE REDPILL CANNON
CNN: Trump responsible for an additional 100,000 deaths due to seasonal flu.
Beautiful tweet to wake up to.
END THE COVID EPIDEMIC TRUMP
END THE EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS
END THE UNCONSITUTIONAL MANDATES
END IT!
(he can't, it's a "states rights" bs thing so he can't overrule the governors)
I can dream
The rule of law is dead, how's 'bout we just let him deal with them and worry about the "law" later.
If they're doing illegal and unconstitutional things (they are), imo he should be able to find SOME way to stop them since it's NOT their right to infringe on our rights.
But those "states rights" are infringing on the citizens constitutional rights and per the constitution is UNCONSTITUTIONAL so they can take their "states rights" and get fucked.
WHAT A TWEET. THE MOUNTAIN OF SALT IS GETTING TOO BIG.
I can't wait to see how few people died from the flu this year though....
I know he had to wait until "flu season" to be like this but I wish he was like this with other deadly diseases and illnesses. The COVID cult has been left to develop for far too long.
Where I live Cancer has killed more people since March than COVID. Suicide rates are skyrocketing. The overall mental health is failing. Millions across the world face being sunk into poverty through unemployment because governments only care about COVID. Nothing else matters to them.
The only pandemic people should be worried about is the COVID cult. They will happily watch places collapse as long as Amazon can still deliver their new Nintendo Switch game.
Military suicide rate is up 20% according to CBS news. If this trend applies nationally, that's 10,000 additional deaths to suicide entirely attributable to lockdown. When you add in all other causes, lockdown has caused 10s of thousands of deaths, indisputably.
What I would like to point out, is despite Trump going along with the virus hysteria lies until this point, they still have said he was denying science and experts, that it is all his fault. So I don't think it helped him at all to not go against the flow. Stick to principles. They will just create a reality that denies you agree with them, even if you are.
GEOTUS knows what he's talking about. He gratuated from Walter Reed College in record time!
are we doing to close down our country? no? then do something about preventing the Governors from doing it. They will go backward in lockdowns if not. They're already scheming to use the Flu as their "second wave of coronavirus" and lock us down again or at least prolong current restrictions. They're trying to make masks, social distancing and expecting big restrictions on daily life a permanent fixture on us just because "disease exists in the world"
He is so absolutely fucking right about this and the Dems will just not let it happen. They would rather we all get depressed and unemployed and lose our friends and family than have trump in office again
Holy shit, salt mines incoming
Always punch back and double down...from the book of Trump chapter 1 verse 3, praise kek
Here it comes... this is gonna be beautiful! Get'em!
Boy, this one is going to really make them spaz out for a while. They've been training their brains to react really violently to "flu" and "COVID" in close proximity in sentences for a long time now.
Democrats are feverishly concocting a convoluted response full of numbers and hogwash.
BOOM!!
Would've been nice to hear this 8 months ago.. But it's a start.
I said Trump has one of two lanes he has to pick on this coming out of it. With His base or perpetuate the secular burka mentality.
Dear God may we continue this path back to pre corona life. 2020 was trash. My summer was trash and a waste. My favorite season. I will not repeat this next year.
My thoughts exactly!
Democrats are murderers!
Already seeing leftists say that the flu doesn't kill anywhere close to 100,000 people per year. Have to tell them to check out 1968 - it's not easy dealing with unreasonable people.
Or 1917
exactly
Or 1958
I joined this site specifically to say how completely fucking heroic this is. He's right. He's fucking right. COVID-19 is real. It is nasty. But, at worst, it's like have four bad flu seasons in one year, followed by a return to normal as herd immunity kicks in. It isn't worth wrecking the economy for it. The overwhelming majority, even in Trump's demographic, survive. Those who don't are in their 70s or 80s, or have signficant comorbidities. We're getting better at protecting ourselves every day. We shouldn't be afraid of it. Masks are a modern day talisman designed to ward off the fear that we ourselves have invented. This is the bravest statement by a President in 50 years..
Brilliant because now Biden has to either agree or clearly come out in favor of a second shutdown. The people in blue states are going to revolt. They've had enough of their overlords.
Except Medicare doesn't pay a jackpot bonus for patients with the flu.
He fucking did it. He went there. MFW
Don't let anyone tell you the deaths from flu season are because it's over such a long period of months in the year (October to February). The overwhelming majority of deaths happen over two months from late November to new years.
Surely this means we have to make cancel Thanksgiving, Christmas, and new years right?
It irks me to think of all the flu cases they will try to pass off as the Chinese virus. It's already giving me a headache.
Flu season is going to be super bad this year. We've "flattened the curve" which means we've pushed new covid cases into the winter. Hospitals ARE going to be overwhelmed due to the combo of flu, rsv, pnuemonia, and covid.
Democrats are retarded for this.
Yes! Thank you!
I know what the cucks and traitors were up to. Using the seasonal flu to justify another 6 months of masks and shutting down the country. Fuck that shit, get ahead of it and end this now.
he can't. The root of the problem is that we declared virus response to the States as a "states issue" so Trump really has no weapons to use if the Democrat Governors declare another state of emergency or use powers to lock down again. Maybe the best he can do is threaten to withhold money from the states, but then he gets screaming that he's "being heartless and doesn't care while people die in <state> because he won't bail them out"
The simple solution is to simply gut the health department on the federal level. If they can't get any data they can't come up with a bullshit excuse.
They'll scream no matter what he does.
He could give puppies and cupcakes to everyone on a sunny day with rainbows and bouquets of flowers, and the left would still find some way it was going to destroy the world.
Big Daddy is gearing up for a post-election federal mandate that strikes down state shutdown orders.
That would give me a freedom ladyboner.