Back in the Reddit days I remember seeing people clutching pearls at the idea that rights come from God or are otherwise natural and inalienable, because they were worried about how you can't restrict rights if they're not granted by the government.
They don't realize that isn't a bug, that's the entire point.
Yes. Worst part is they don't realize you don't even have to believe in god to acknowledge that your rights are natural born and exist in the absence of and or presence of government. I have a right to defend my life. The government is supposed to only be there to reassure that I can exercise my rights without retribution from whomever.
There's no covenant amongst the people anymore. And I'm not speaking biblically. The foundations of a strong republic is that we are all in mutual agreement of fundamental principles. At this point that's not the case.
Daily I see cattle like mentality as if government is god. Get in this line, stand here, why should you own weapons, don't say that etc. We are morally bankrupt at this point as a country.
In a more pragmatic sense, it's this effect: Every person has a combination of the capability to fight (primarily men) and an influence towards people who can fight (which is rather the case for women). The reason why Democracy - to some degree - is valid is because in general more people beat less people.
Property is a concept we naturally recognize, and that also applies to animals. They understand concepts of ownership, theft and territory. Property can be understood even encompassing health and life (you own your body).
The reason why you can't simply infringe on other people's rights is because they will defend their rights. If you want to achieve any level of peace, society has to acknowledge these rights mutually. And because people (and animals) by default defend their rights, and they have natural, reasonable, ethical reasons to do so, and because it's embedded in our natural interactions with reality, as it is also arguably necessary to operate in reality in the first place (owning the food, keeping yourself alive), these rights are acknowledged (not granted) by the constitution as inalienable.
Infringing upon them means forcing people to overgo their natural instincts just as well as common sense (like self-defence). No authority is required in order to ensure them - if anything, authority is what infringes upon them the most.
The enemies of the USA helped make that possible. They fabricated "Separation of Church and State" to take any semblance of God out of government, and used emotional "greater good" arguments to persuade people to give up their freedoms. Fortunately a lot of Americans didn't fall for it, but enough have to cause real damage.
Idk as an atheist I like the separation of church and state. Do what you want behind closed doors but keep your magic and doctrines out of my shit. We couldn't even buy boose in my state on Sundays till a couple years ago shit like that is just fucking stupid. Religious zealotry of any kind is annoying asf to the non religious.
Zealotry of any kind is annoying at best, and dangerous at worst. See: leftist zealotry. Same can be said for religious zealotry.
I was a hardcore atheist back in my 20s as well. Separation, getting rid of all forms of religion and religious symbolism on government property and currency, that sort of thing. Well now I know how wrong I was as I see the effects of the population losing religion and faith on a large scale and it frightens me more than the fear of some theocracy ever did.
The prospect of losing it isn't the scary part to me it's the fact that people need to fill the void left by it and they choose even more insane ideologies atleast christianity has evolved to be palatable in the modern world but I still dislike all forms of it. The biggest hypocrites I've ever met besides libtards have been christians. Like I said I don't care what you do at home but government making policies based on a magic book is not the way forward to me. The only defining feature that matters to me is that you're american
Honestly, the state should be able to be as religious, capitalistic, socialistic as it pleases. We have a constitutional right to free movement specifically to let us move to states that we more align with.
People have abandoned God. They think rights come from the government, so government can take away those rights.
Back in the Reddit days I remember seeing people clutching pearls at the idea that rights come from God or are otherwise natural and inalienable, because they were worried about how you can't restrict rights if they're not granted by the government.
They don't realize that isn't a bug, that's the entire point.
NSA is white hat, Snowden was/is a CIA plant/disinformation campaign against NSA.
There's no such thing as "was" or "ex" CIA. DC and the media are crawling with them. Worse than cockroaches.
Why downvotes????
Exactly, which is why America's founding fathers made sure that fact was made perfectly clear. https://legaldictionary.net/inalienable-rights/
Yes. Worst part is they don't realize you don't even have to believe in god to acknowledge that your rights are natural born and exist in the absence of and or presence of government. I have a right to defend my life. The government is supposed to only be there to reassure that I can exercise my rights without retribution from whomever.
There's no covenant amongst the people anymore. And I'm not speaking biblically. The foundations of a strong republic is that we are all in mutual agreement of fundamental principles. At this point that's not the case.
Daily I see cattle like mentality as if government is god. Get in this line, stand here, why should you own weapons, don't say that etc. We are morally bankrupt at this point as a country.
In a more pragmatic sense, it's this effect: Every person has a combination of the capability to fight (primarily men) and an influence towards people who can fight (which is rather the case for women). The reason why Democracy - to some degree - is valid is because in general more people beat less people.
Property is a concept we naturally recognize, and that also applies to animals. They understand concepts of ownership, theft and territory. Property can be understood even encompassing health and life (you own your body).
The reason why you can't simply infringe on other people's rights is because they will defend their rights. If you want to achieve any level of peace, society has to acknowledge these rights mutually. And because people (and animals) by default defend their rights, and they have natural, reasonable, ethical reasons to do so, and because it's embedded in our natural interactions with reality, as it is also arguably necessary to operate in reality in the first place (owning the food, keeping yourself alive), these rights are acknowledged (not granted) by the constitution as inalienable.
Infringing upon them means forcing people to overgo their natural instincts just as well as common sense (like self-defence). No authority is required in order to ensure them - if anything, authority is what infringes upon them the most.
The enemies of the USA helped make that possible. They fabricated "Separation of Church and State" to take any semblance of God out of government, and used emotional "greater good" arguments to persuade people to give up their freedoms. Fortunately a lot of Americans didn't fall for it, but enough have to cause real damage.
Idk as an atheist I like the separation of church and state. Do what you want behind closed doors but keep your magic and doctrines out of my shit. We couldn't even buy boose in my state on Sundays till a couple years ago shit like that is just fucking stupid. Religious zealotry of any kind is annoying asf to the non religious.
Zealotry of any kind is annoying at best, and dangerous at worst. See: leftist zealotry. Same can be said for religious zealotry.
I was a hardcore atheist back in my 20s as well. Separation, getting rid of all forms of religion and religious symbolism on government property and currency, that sort of thing. Well now I know how wrong I was as I see the effects of the population losing religion and faith on a large scale and it frightens me more than the fear of some theocracy ever did.
The prospect of losing it isn't the scary part to me it's the fact that people need to fill the void left by it and they choose even more insane ideologies atleast christianity has evolved to be palatable in the modern world but I still dislike all forms of it. The biggest hypocrites I've ever met besides libtards have been christians. Like I said I don't care what you do at home but government making policies based on a magic book is not the way forward to me. The only defining feature that matters to me is that you're american
Honestly, the state should be able to be as religious, capitalistic, socialistic as it pleases. We have a constitutional right to free movement specifically to let us move to states that we more align with.
So the constitution isn't federal?I'm all for states rights but federal Trump's states