I love Kayleigh, but I wish Sarah was still in the WH in some capacity.
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This isn't her real account.
Yep this isn't her at all. This is a random person using her name slightly changed
is the information also fake?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
2018: 2,813,503
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
2019: 2,860,406
I'd say the numbers are within acceptable tolerances.
excellent, thank you
Interesting, I'm going to throw out a theory that maybe doctors do more harm than good sometimes.
I think the theory is people weren’t out doing shit for a large part of the year so there were less accidental deaths, like car accidents for example. Those 60,000 lives “saved” were not worth the harm it did in terms of mental anguish and the economy in my opinion when we were perfectly happy with that cost before Covid popped off and these stats held us all hostage to a government hungry for power through manipulation.
It's not much of a theory, though. The problem with counting invisible beans like this theory does, is that someone opposed to the theory can just make their own invisible beans.
What about all the people who died of non-COVID related causes, because they were forced to be sedentary by the lockdowns?
And all the people who died of drug and alcohol overdoses because they had nothing better to do?
For every invisible life saved by sitting at home, I can manufacture an invisible death.
While I would say that it is pretty obvious that the less people are on the road the less deaths occur driving, but you make a great point because that person who isn’t driving walks up and down their stairs in their home more often and have a higher likelihood of dying from falling down their stairs. Statistics are a bitch that can always be manipulated to suit whatever angle you want to take. Thanks for the perspective.
The number of people that die from bad healthcare is higher than the people that die from not having insurance.
We'd have to compare Jan to September year over year to get a more accurate idea of how over/under we're doing.
Interestingly the second link has a UN prediction for the 2020 death rate that is above the 2019 death rate but DOESN'T include COVID deaths in the prediction. I'm curious how over/under the prediction will turn out being.
I think the information is speculative based on numbers still being calculated. 2018 is correct.
Yeah it's fake unless someone proves otherwise. I'm sure they would say "numbers aren't finalized until 6 months into the next year" or something.
Having said that, I do think 2020 will be only up a bit over average, then down below average next year and then back to the normal trend. Covid will amount to a small blip.
The information is fake. They are forgetting that stats are not fully in yet for the previous 8 weeks. The best place to see the predictions are in the below link at the CDC which shows excess deaths, there have been in fact hundreds of thousands of excess deaths. This post's kind of misinformation is to trick people into appearing stupid in arguments. Use the below link instead.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
This is the kind of data the WH needs to focus on, as well as declining hospitalizations and mortality.
Interesting if the stats are true, essentially the stats say that WAY too many deaths have been attributed to COVID. There's simply no explanation for upwards of 500k (to year end) fewer deaths when we've allegedly added 200k unexpected CONVID deaths
Is there a way to see 2020 then?
If you did a deep dive, you would probably find some reasons. For one thing, fewer car accidents due to the shutdown. The important thing is that even if you account for statistical anomalies, the data tells us that many Covid deaths are really people who died with Covid and not from Covid (especially when you account for the extremely lax standards in claiming a patient had Covid).
Excellent observations. If only there were people who are paid to investigate this type stuff and then report it accurately and without bias to the American people...
Dare to dream 😴
Take the data to the AG. Departments can't share.
It's bullshit data though.
What is bullshit data? Total overall deaths should be reasonably accurate. Deaths attributed to Covid are wildly inaccurate.
They always say that current data is not complete and it gets modified upward.
I mean if its not bullshit, where is the source?
Love the post!
who is Sarah Hucklebee?
The only thing that has saved you from my wrath is the Fifth Element reference. I'm just going to assume you're new to this planet.
Sarah huckabee...no L
I understand what you're saying, I was speaking in a loose, generalized manner, ignoring the "L" in order make a humorous comment on the username "i_am_a_meat_popsicle", sorry for being too abstruse for the room.
She's Not as easy on the eyes as Kayleigh. A little sugar makes the medicine go down. Does that help?
just making an offhand remark about the L in the username.
lol, not new...however, if I was new to the planet and I saw what is going on with the masks and rioting...Id probably try to get the heck off as soon as possible. But then again, Id be posting here so Im sure I would be ok.
Are these numbers accurate? Because I want go use this
I downloaded a datasheet someone linked me from the cdc.gov site last week.
The link no longer works because the cdc hates data?[See EDIT]Here's a summary of total deaths in USA by year:
Two things to note.
Deaths per year increases slightly with each year as is expected with a growing population.
September is about 3/4 of a year, so by crude extrapolation, we could expect total 2020 deaths to be 3,106,649. But this doesn't take into account that 2020's deaths may have been "front loaded" due to COVID. We really have to wait and see for end of the year data.
EDIT: I screwed up. The CDC data link does still work. Here is it:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData38.csv
And the no-longer-functioning link is?
Ah, I goofed. The link actually does work, and I found the original while looking for it for you...
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData38.csv
Thank you!
Ask them if it is "front loaded" please.
same
No, these data are wrong.
The CDC publishes the flu, pneumonia, and -- importantly -- total mortality data for the prior 7-8 seasons:
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
Each season starts at week 40 of the preceding year and ends on week 40 of the current year.
They update their data continuously, but the data as of 3-5 weeks ago are relatively stable and unlikely to change much.
Here are the data for wk40 2019 through wk36 2020:
Season Total Death
2019-20 2,937,159
2018-19 2,674,873
2017-18 2,681,577
2016-17 2,635,170
2015-16 2,546,308
2014-15 2,540,348
2013-14 2,427,867
The current season (2019-2020) is already about 10% higher in total mortality than the preceding seasons.
~I will post a graph in a bit.~
UPDATE:
Here's the graph: https://i.maga.host/GdBUM5i.png
maybe Im reading these numbers wrong...but isnt the total population of the US around 300 million?
Thanks for pointing this out.
Upon copying and pasting from a spreadsheet, delimiters (in this case, spaces) vanished.
Fixed (by putting in spaces where they belong).
DERP CDC CAN BE TRUSTED TO BE ACCURATE, TRUE, HONEST, AND SCIENTIFIC.
ALSO POLITICALLY UNBIASED.
give this guy a shill medal
at best, self-awareness = zero and that's using generous CDC estimates.
how stupid are we STILL gonna be?
we're 8 months into the COMMON COLD being declared a pandemic.
the joker is laughing at you, Harley.
It looks like we are through the worst of it, does it not? Is this adjusted for population growth? I wonder how the aging boomer generation has affected the death rate, if at all?
Yes, we are.
No, not adjusted.
Fair question.
I only wanted to set the record straight in terms of numbers.
That being said, what we can say definitively is that -- since the official COVID death toll is sitting at 200K -- at least 150K more people died this season than in the previous ones.
Looks like we're already reaping what the lockdowns sowed.
Thanks for the reply. A large increase can be seen from 2013-14 to 2014-15 & from 2015-16 to 2016-17. Quite a jump between those years. I wonder what that increase has been attributed to, and could it be a factor this year, as well? My guess would be population growth. I can imagine when population growth meets aging baby boomers, we are going to see a big increase in deaths. We are just about to that point, I believe.
You're very welcome. May very well be...
Adjustment for population is definitely needed.
That being said, please refer to my original comment. I've added a link to a graph screenshot depicting death by week for each of the seasons.
The 2020 line shape deviates from other seasons substantially, so quite a few more (10-15%) people died than what would be "typically expected" in a given season and that specific time period (March-September).
A breakdown by cause of death would answer many questions, and the CDC have those numbers elsewhere -- but they only go up to 2018. At least, that's the extent of my duckduck foo...
Great information. I really appreciate you taking the time!
Appreciate the kind words!
I've not touched the data since July, and a lot of interesting things happened.
Just looked at most states individually.
See the two humps around week 15 and week 30 in the national graph? Guess what: they come from different states!
There are 3 types of states I'm observing now:
I do not see any correlation with any lockdown etc. measures (just eyeballing).
No. It's bullshit that makes us look dumb. But in the end, when we look back from 2023 or so we will probably see a small bump up in deaths for 2020 followed by lower than usual 2021. Thats my guess.
Or a lot of these deaths have been front loaded as we know
Cured cancer
Why is the media worried about the election? Everyone is dead, no one to vote.
The math checks out.
Here is a link to a Day-of-Year table https://www.epochconverter.com/days/2020.
Sept 24 is day 268 of 365. Lets divide 2,033,736 / ( 268 / 365 ) = 2,769,827
Fake account. Don’t let this disinformation devalue the quality of our post. Get this shot outta here...
We are currently looking at in excess of 10-12000 extra overdose deaths in 2020 over 2019.
This currently outpaces the rona death rate, and does not include suicide either. There is no two ways about it, the lockdowns are killing more people than coronavirus is right now.
Knew someone was going to notice this though. It's accurate. Check the CDC of all places.
Even with the rona, America is beating death
Media... quick. We need 800,000 people to die.
Average deaths from all causes is relatively predictable.
Https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
I have yet to find total death by month data on the cdc or nhcs websites beyond March 2020. . Without it, there is no way to determine the number of covid-19 "excess deaths" that they keep marketing to us.
Does anyone know where to find this data?
Naturally it's lower...we cured the flu, heart disease, deaths from gunshots, automobile accidents & even cured lightning strike deaths.
The 2018 number can be found matching to the unit from https://wonder.cdc.gov/. The 2019 and 2020 aren't on there yet.
Spez: also here https://www.prb.org/usdata/indicator/deaths/snapshot/
Lol, they fucking love science.
Sarah should stand in while Kayleigh quarantines
It’s because people stopped getting shot as much in democrat run cities because they’re locked down.
It's because the police aren't murdering millions of black people anymore.. duh!
I independently made this argument to another person a week ago.
i thought sarah had the right spirit but wasn’t as polished as kayleigh.
Bring back my boy Sean Spicer just for this week.
I tried to find the information in a comparison but the cdc won't include covid deaths with general deaths and also the info was not up to date. I bet there is only a slight statistic bump (if any) from the same time frame in 2018 and 2019 to 2020. Maybe one of you guys can find it.
The great thing about Covid-19 is that cancer deaths are down almost 95%!!!
Maybe Sarah and mike can help while she is resting up
That's not Sarah, but I agree.
Alas, she was the warning shot that was not heeded, so the fake news got the bulldog.
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