DONALD J. TRUMP… Proclamation on Made In America Day and Made In America Week, 2020
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End all trade with China. Bring our manufacturing all back home.
Should have been done day 1. Pisses me off seeing all these stupid masks and PPE made in china being sold in the US
Takes time to end trade with China, can't be done in one day. Trump has been bringing jobs back and manufacturing back, with another four years we will be free from China.
minus the democrats
$11.00 for 2 N95s made in china. We could of done that for a quarter of the price at home,
Also- they bought up the stock of masks and sent infected people to parts of the world they wanted to collapse. Lets call it what it really is: bio- terrorism from the global nazi regeme..
Democrats killed American citizens, Purposely in this scam. Ccp and globalists had co-operation to make this happen.
Fuck you, Treasonous Americans and Fuck you ccp.
I don't believe this woke, lame-ass global nazi theory that you still need slavery. We outlawed slavery, and we are the freedom party.
Don't end all trade with China. I'm perfectly fine letting them strip their raw materials and processing them here. Just don't send them any of ours and don't trade finished goods in either direction.
Everyone always focuses on money and dollar value of trade deficits, but I am personally more concerned with just keeping all the product, raw and finished, here at home. Instead of making iPhones over there that they then proceed to knock off and undercut anyway. Just buy all their raw materials, ship it here, process it here, make them in the USA, sell them in the USA, and when foreigners want to buy one, tell them to fuck off, this is America's phone, you can make your own shitty version of our awesome product.
Or sell it to them at three times the price, that's okay too.
That's how we used to do shit and it's how America became Great in the first place. Our work ethic and foundational principles allowed us to innovate and build faster and better than anyone else, and when it came time to fight, we ramped it up to 11 and demonstrated why you don't fuck with America or her allies.
Owning cool, high quality shit should be a privilege of living in a first world nation, it shouldn't be sold off to anyone with a dollar to spend.
The reason everything is made in China is because they have super liberal manufacturing laws.
You can pretty much make whatever the fuck you want over there, it just cant all be sold within china.
That means the people making the phones in China know how to make every model of phone from every phone development company.
This leads to Chinese factories having a very particular expertise, cross functionally, on manufacturing.
In the USA, we are handicapped by copywrite laws. You have to waste a load of time trying to redesign your devices so that the particular rectangular beveled shape doesnt get you sued. Or the shade of the ink being too close to a copywritten shade.
In the USA, we waste a fuckload of time and resources on working around copywrite.
These types of skills and methodology are only beneficial in very specific applications.
The reason everything is made in china is because they basically have legal slavery, gigantic factories where
peasantspeople work, live and get paid a misery(if they get paid at all), and hence they can bring costs of production way downBack when the liberals were still anti-china (at least in talking points) there were dozens of articles about the conditions when the PS4 and XBOXone were being manufactured at an absurd rate in china. They were even recruiting college students to work 6 days a week in the factory for 'mandatory extra credits' under threat of not getting any credits at all if they didn't 'volunteer.'
They would need a handful of iPhones (or any product) to reverse engineer and knock off. Even if you didn't let them buy one, they'd still get the same result.
No, you'd get cheap knockoffs, just like you have now, but they would be unable to get the real deal. That's the key difference. Nothing is going to stop Chinese people from stealing designs. But we can still prevent them from having the actual quality product.
They don't actually bother reverse engineering. Every company that does business in china has to turn over access to all intellectual property to the government. This means they actually have the designs of everything made in China.
Actually reverse engineering and building a knock off iPhone would be hard, expensive, and problematic. They currently just use the design specs they already have access to because globalist companies are happy to trade 2.5 billion customers for their intellectual property rights, since all their shit is designed be obsolete within two years anyway. It's the new products and brand advertising that drive the business, not the old designs china has, so they sell out and make even more short term gains.
I'm not sure where you got from my post that I wanted to buy trinkets from China. I want exactly the opposite. I want their raw materials so we don't have to use ours, and that's all. I don't even want them to process them, we can handle that here.
Why not? That sounds illogical, anti-capitalist and anti-business.
A dollar from Zimbabwe is the same as a dollar from Kentucky. If someone want's to give you a dollar for a product made in America, with the full production cycle kept in America, you would be stupid to say no, because that would be one dollar that would work at making America greater instead of doing the same in Zimbabwe.
And exporting goods was very much part of how America became great in the first place.
Imagine you have a wrench in one hand and the money required to purchase that wrench in the other. Let's say it's $5.
Now let's say 100 years pass and you pick up the same five dollars and the same wrench. Which one held its value?
That's why we should be focused on keeping products, not dollars. Fiat currency only has the value assigned to it by a government and because of that it constantly loses it.
Durable goods do not lose their value like dollars do. Focus on acquiring things with actual intrinsic value, not money.
There's a reason people joke about post-apocalyptic currency being ammo.
That depends. No one needs a rusted wrench that doesn't correspond to any modern fixtures, but you would need a $100 iPhone even less half that time from now.
Imagine you have a box of iPhones you created and someone from Bumfuckistan is willing to pay you $500,000 for that box
I'm not saying you should take the $500,000 and bury it in a vault. But taking that $500,000 to buy new and improved machinery is eminently more useful than saying "fuck off, this is America's phone" and keeping your stupid box of iPhones that will be completely deprecated and useless and worth negative assets in like 2-3 years.
Like I was always against fiat currency exactly because it's value is ultimately always being deprecated, but at least it keeps most of it's value in the short to middle term provided a modicum of stability. The vast majority of stuff produced anywhere becomes useless much, much quicker and is simply not capital with intrinsic value. You should 100% definitely be exchanging these things for ones with intrinsic value, which are very few and far between.
I didn't ask you about comparing a rusty wrench to an old iPhone, I asked you about comparing it to a $5 bill, but you clearly understand my point, which is that dollars and cents aren't wealth. They may be in the short term as a representation of value, but long term, and especially on a national/global scale, I'd rather keep resources and products in the country. That old wrench may be rusty, but you can clean it up and it's good as new. That old iPhone may be useless now, but it still holds materials that can be recycled and put back into use. The old $5 bill is just so much toilet paper.
The only two (material) things that hold their value long term are gold and land. That's it.
So the $5 is so much useless toilet paper, eventually. The wrench is so much useless rust, at a longer scale.
What makes the wrench better is not the time scale within which it holds it's value, but in that it is a tool that can be used to create more productive output. In this sense, a wrench used wisely could be better than gold.
Which is an absolutely retarded waste of productivity. Basically poring all the work and effort and energy that went into creating the thing down the toilet to get back the raw materials you started with.
No, you have to sell or othewise exchange the iPhones for useful long-term assets instead of stockpiling
Alright man, you win. On a geological time scale durable goods have no value. YOU GOT ME.
Ah the halcyon days of "if your country can't make its own, fuck off". Strength again.
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China didn't rekt the USA, the media machine and deep state democrats did.
China did corona to fuck with the trade war and to reclaim Hong Kong. They benefit off the shutdown and the masks since they make them.
However, none of that would have been possible without the deep state democrats or the media (their propaganda branch).
China doesn't control the USA media (global media) they just pay a large portion of the bills, and mostly through the entertainment branches of the media.
(Disney owns ABC News)
American media isn't even American. It's global conglomerates and they also own large portions of social media.
Conde Nast for example.
Just make sure it explode on impact or they gonna reverse engineering it
Been saying this for Years!
I wish it was easy to find Made in America products...
Yep. I agree. Made in America should not be an exception for purchasing goods.
Yes. Goods made in America should set the standard for excellence and quality. Found on all store shelves.
It just takes a little searching. I've found all sorts.
The problem is that it is still the exception instead of the rule, and until that changes those products are going to be more expensive, and not just a little bit. I will happily pay 30-50% more for something made in the USA (depending on the item, obviously), but in most cases it's more like 2-300% or more. I might still be willing to pay that, but a lot of times I can't afford the item anymore.
I'd love to have a nice set of Snap-On heavy duty screwdrivers, but when an 8 pc set costs near $200, it's hard for me to justify it over a $20 set from China. When the item can break and be replaced 10 times before I am approaching the cost of the good ones, you start changing your mind about whether the extra cost is worth it.
If I were a mechanic and were likely to use them every day and probably break them every couple of months, then yeah, I'd just buy the ones that won't ever break to begin with, but that's not most people.
America needs to reinvest in manufacturing of mid-grade products, not just high end stuff. Until that happens, Made in the USA is going to remain difficult to find and difficult to justify for most people when they do find it.
It was just an example, man. I'm not looking to buy screwdrivers. The point is that I can find 1000 cheap $20 sets from China and decent Made in USA brands are so rare that you are able to keep track of them in your head. Those mid-grade manufacturers should be as ubiquitous as the cheap chinese shit.
Nope. Economy of scale accounts for about half of that, and the rest is handled via - DA DA DA DAAAAA - tariffs.
Tariffs lower costs indirectly by raising the cost of doing business elsewhere, negating the benefits of going overseas. If you can't increase your profit margin by going to a third world shithole, there's no benefit to doing so, and you bring your manufacturing back to the US. Once here, you begin to build infrastructure for your company, allowing you to benefit from sunk costs.
Once everyone is doing this, innovation and competition take over and you find ways to lower costs that aren't simply "have some idiot in Kuala Lumpur handle it". You invest in better machinery that automates more, find ways to buy larger quantities of raw goods for better pricing rather than using JIT inventory, negotiate better deals because it's the only way to function, etc.
Business gets more ruthless, but prices go down because prices always go down, it's how business works. But the only way to make that happen is for people to be on a level playing field, and tariffs enforce that.
Here's a good site!
https://madeinusaforever.com/
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So let's all post some great Made in USA items!
I'll start:
Darn Tough Socks (Made in Vermont)
Fox River Socks (Made in Iowa)
Lodge Cast Iron and Carbon Steel (NOT the enameled. Just the bare metal! Made in TN)
Crayola Crayons
I'm a cast iron collector. I just can't get enough. I buy most of mine at thrift stores and can't afford Lodge prices. Camping section of walmart has two cast iron griddles, one lodge, one chinesium. The quality difference is staggering, as is the price difference. $50 vs. $18
I can't bring myself to buy either.
Knowing that they are made in TN makes me want to get the Lodge one.
I visited a Lodge outlet store once. It was great!
I use my Lodge skillet more than any other frying pan I own. I can't recommend one enough. You will get your money's worth.
Skillets aren’t the problem. I have an abundance of them in every size. I’m struggling to find a reasonable griddle. Antique stores have for $80 and up. Lodge has them for $40-50. I’ve been waiting for one to show up at my local thrift store, but no luck. I’ve probably picked up a dozen cast iron items there. Most around $5. The griddle is my unicorn.
Channellock pliers are great. Their adjustable wrenches are made in Spain but at least it's not Chyna.
Darn Tough socks - free lifetime replacement. Most are bullet proof but they did have a style that the stretch fibers broke and unraveled. They took them back and replaced.
Nomar
www.nomaralaska.com
Bags, duffles, backpacks, fishing gear, clothing...I LOVE this stuff. Amazing. Made in beautiful Homer, Alaska.
My Pillow (Made in Minnesota) Bic Lighters
You don't always have to go full 100%, but if you do look for "Berry Amendment compliant". Those pieces are USA made from USA materials (even the threads).
I have a few clothing pieces which are compliant because base layers either come FR Berry (because 99% of their customers are military) or non-FR ;)
Other than that, there's quite a few "manufactured in the USA from global resources/components" companies out there.
As someone who is Made in America, I guess it's my week too.
Also, go America!
Let's bring it all back.
HAPPY MADE IN AMERICA WEEK!!!
Stop. Pretending. Covid. Matters.
“ The “Made in America” stamp stands for excellence in craftsmanship” <—- translation for idiots, 1 inch equals 1 inch, not .93 or 1.1 inches and a weld doesn’t look like a piece of gum stuck on metal by a blind person
Very true !!!
Then they will be the ones getting poisoned, having shit that breaks on them when they need it most, and support slavery. That's about their speed.
Yep
Finally, a day for all those underwater basket weavers!
Lol. Etsy has beautiful baskets made while underwater !!!
So then are they not real baskets until they emerge from that watery womb I wonder?
And fuck Biden for trying to steal the Made in America talking point that has ALWAYS been a staple of conservatives.
He should make November made in America month (when lot’s of people are buying all their Christmas presents)
Love how Biden is now trying to campaign on revitalizing American manufacturing and industry when he is responsible for crippling it in the first place.
Beautiful. USA!
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I totally agree that we should all buy American but I take a little issue with saying that it represents the highest quality by default. Things is, if companies are going to continue their woke BS and hire people because of their skin color and gender then I think we are going to have to live with some inferior products and services going forward. It's inevitable. Still would rather buy American garbage than Chinese.
I do the same. With the current ammo shortage I'll buy from eastern Europe or even Mexico but refuse the Chinese shit.
Wait, I thought Biden was the “Made in America” candidate!!1!
Notice that Biden doesn't say "made in America" but "made by [globalist crony] American companies [in China and Mexico]."
Read the labels folks..Buy made in America.
Our family has been substituting American made products where possible for a while. Some things are impossible, like high tech gadgets. Many things like jeans, soaps, clothes, brushes, filters, brooms, pans, knives, etc are very easy to find American made.
Thank you mods!
FREEDOM BONER INTENSIFIES!
And the commie liberals go Reeeeeeeeee
I work for a US small manufacturer. This made my day!
Go USA! #Trump2020
God Bless Donald J Trump
Those who are into canning food for whatever reason, and there are many thousands, have hit a wall in American canning jars and lids (thanks, COVID, for hobbling production). The market is flooded with inferior Chinese lids. This is theoretically a one-use item. It isn't just about jam, farmers need this stuff very much in harvest time.
Some products are getting harder and harder to find made in the USA, we've given up on the electronics, even textiles are hard to find made in the USA. But if you look hard enough, you'll find some. There are no oxymorons bigger than buying an American flag, neck-tie or headband that's made in China.
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I love our president. God bless him and his family
Fuck China
While we are divorcing Chyna, that should include C's mouthpiece in the US, the old school "media". Trump should strongly interact with New Media alone.
I wish i was a part of this.
Fuck CHY-NA
Until we can disengage from countries now or in the future that are behaving badly, we need an executive order [or even law] that simply requires the flag(s) of the country of origin be:
a) printed on the package/box/carton/container and included instructions if any. For product in-country after the effective date of the order, a flag sticker applied after the fact is compliant. If the print is black-and-white only, a black-and-white rendition of the flag is permitted, but if ambiguous, the name of the country has to be printed below the flag in 6 pt or larger type. For multi-countries of origin, attach each flag. Same for a product that can come from plants in two different countries, if it can't be known.
b) for e-commerce stores, one if the images of the product has to be the above flag. For most software this is not a huge technical issue, they already have slots to upload images. Exception: The site can use one flag at the top w/appropriate text, if all products are from that country, "All products sold on this site are made in the USA"
c) for physical stores, the flag or origin has to be on the shelf price sticker. Same "All products made in USA"-type signage permitted, if this is true.
d) In those jurisdictions that do not require per unit pricing, the flag on the shelf sticker will be adequate. [trying for a reasonable compromise and not drive up labor costs]
e) penalty of $TBD for misrepresentation per product line, not per product, waiveable for the first half a year if corrected within a week. [not certain how to write this legally into an executive order, but there may already be a law against misrepresentation of the country of orgin].
This is an unfunded mandate, but not outrageously expensive. Almost all the flags of all countries are Emoji now and a sheets of avery labels or bulk clones aren't expensive, we're talking hundred of flag stickers for pennies, and your staff has to put the price tags on any way.
It informs the consumer and let's them make their own decision - good capitalism, not forced socialistic behavior.
It can be done faster then China disengagement, which can and still happen after, if the Chinese government continues to be assholes, and works for other countries in the future, if they behave poorly.
Time phase in large stores like Walmart and Amazon first, Distributors next, then the Mom-and-Pop stores last.