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RU_joe_king 33 points ago +33 / -0

She got the Health Department to continue the restrictions.

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HunterG22 [S] 26 points ago +26 / -0

Yup, first big win. Now for the second round of lawsuits.

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Isolated_Patriot 25 points ago +25 / -0

Three months. That's the threshold on change.

Societies are naturally resistant to change when something foreign is introduced, but after the three month threshold, it becomes the 'norm' for the majority.

Once that critical period has passed, a large enough portion of the society will now fight to keep the change.

Once the masking orders are removed, we will still see people wearing masks every year during flu season. We will see campaigns and organizing to bring masking orders back, we will see politicians successfully campaigning on making masking a requirement during flu seasons, and making not wearing a mask when you are sick a punishable offence. We'll see 'spreading rumors' or 'fake news' about a 'health crisis' pushed as punishable offenses, and legal right to fire over employees openly disagreeing with masking or vax laws.

And I'm just listing off exactly how it happened in China, and what's currently happening in Europe.

All lockdowns and mask orders could end tomorrow and it will still take years to return to pre-covid levels of tourism and outdoor gatherings (though it will be nice that all the tourists and outdoor gatherings will most likely lean conservative for a long time).

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Two_Scoops__ 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's interesting. I'm in Michigan in a relatively red suburb and I noticed back in June about 40% of the people at grocery stores weren't wearing masks. Then she did the new mask mandate in July and now it's damn near 100% wearing masks (except me). So yeah I think you are right. Once we had the mandate long enough people just accepted it. But I disagree with your assessment that it could take years to undo this. I think once we reach a certain threshold of non-maskers (Say 20%) in grocery stores, it will make more people start taking them off as well. We're not China where they literally have no rights.

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Isolated_Patriot 5 points ago +5 / -0

Oh I don't dissagree with you that the chain effect will happen fast, but I think that 40% or so will cling to the saftey net and will cling hard.

They will wear the masks anyway, they won't go on vacations or travel, they won't go to the movie theater, and while they would eventually take the mask off, I think we are going to see maskers every winter now. If they are this afraid of corona just wait till they find out how deadly the flu virus that they've been ignoring most of their lives is!

Things just won't get back to pre-covid levels for a year or more. Not to say that many, or even most, won't be back to normal as soon as they are allowed, but that the full effects of this are going to take a long time to un-condition people.

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Tardigrade 5 points ago +5 / -0

I hate the human brain so much.

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DebbieinDallas 3 points ago +3 / -0

“All lockdowns and mask orders could end tomorrow and it will still take years to return to pre-covid levels of tourism and outdoor gatherings...”. I agree. Never underestimate the power of fear as a restrictor on your activities.

But here’s the thing: remember the 2007-08 financial/housing crisis and how they said it would take 10yrs for the real estate market to return to normal? Well, it DID take a lot of years, depending upon where you were living BUT THERE WAS NO FEAR FACTOR AS AN INHIBITER. And now this whole fake covid lockdown has has the same devestating financial impact on millions of people, mainly the low-skilled who can’t work from home, and the small businesses who hire them and live on small profit margins and have invested their life savings in the future of their small business which is all up in smoke now etc etc PLUS NOW ADD IN THE FEAR FACTOR of going out to public events and socializing at events like parades, art fairs and other summer festivals, eating out, going to the movies etc and people are still gonna self-isolate because they have been forced to develop these new habits and ways of going about their daily lives by staying home more.

Plus everybody is getting older and now this will be two yrs out of our lives. It is not going to be worth the time and investment and physical/mental energy necessary to rebuild for us older entrepreneurs.

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Leucophylla12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Frankly I don’t care what cucks decide to continue to do after the orders are lifted. The important thing is they are lifted and the government doesn’t have the auctoritas to reimplement them. I know plenty of people chomping at the bit to get back to sporting events, concerts, bars, restaurants and normal life

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DebbieinDallas 1 point ago +1 / -0

If government policy became store policy, and the stores are afraid of getting sued for removing their mask requirement, then there is no end to lockdown or masks

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K-Harbour 15 points ago +15 / -0

She still controls all the licensing agencies.

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glow-operator-2-0 9 points ago +9 / -0

Fuck licensure.

That's funding the Deep State.

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Leucophylla12 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bars basically got bent over during this whole thing. I’d never consider opening one after this

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patriotblend 2 points ago +2 / -0

dammit

The supreme court said it was unconstitutional to give the legislative power to the governor

How is it less unconstitutional for her to get someone else not in the legislature to give the same orders again

this isn't rocket science, gretch

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Gyrfalcon 1 point ago +1 / -0

unconstitutional to give the legislative power to the governor. How is it less unconstitutional for her to get someone else not in the legislature

Robert Gordon serves as the director of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Service.

Not even elected, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer appointed him to the position effective Jan. 14, 2019.

Prior to joining the College Board, Director Gordon served in the U.S. Department of Education as acting assistant secretary at the Office of Planning, Evaluation and Policy Development. He spent four years at the U.S. Office of Management and Budget

He has been described as the quarterback for President Barack Obama administration’s evidence-based policymaking initiatives, which closely tied program funding to quality evaluation.