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irspow 11 points ago +11 / -0

Why follow sketchy biased ‘polls’ when the Primary Model uses actual voter data and is the most accurate predictor of Presidential elections in history?

http://primarymodel.com/

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Populistdeplorable 6 points ago +6 / -0

Didn't someone recently purchase Rasmussen?

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couranto 5 points ago +5 / -0

No. Scott Rasmussen sold it a few years ago. The new owner is a big trump supporter. It’s been Trump’s best pollster throughout presidency.

It does seem like he took a hit from the debate and then coming down with Covid. IMO.

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Populistdeplorable 3 points ago +3 / -0

I can see where he might have gone down because of the debate. Please explain how Covid could affect his rating. I do wish he would quit tweeting so much like in the last couple days. I'll probably get trashed for this opinion, but at this point in the game, there will be no indictments for the Russian Hoax. He needs to focus and tell people what he can do for them and contrast with Biden. People are more concerned for their futures, not Obamagate.

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jsd512 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is stunning. So depressing. Rasmussen did not predict the 2016 election.

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Dobbsfan2.0 5 points ago +6 / -1

The polls are just meant to demoralize Trump voters, depress Republican turnout and cover for vote fraud. Conservative Americans are NOT telling pollsters who they’re voting for.

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jsd512 1 point ago +2 / -1

These polls happen over the phone, not out in public. I want to believe your logic but can't. Prepare yourself for a loss. They can't demoralize me enough for me to not vote. I'm voting Trump no matter what. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

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onetruephilosoraptor 4 points ago +4 / -0

You really think that conservatives will tell a stranger over the phone who they are voting?

Leftist mobs of Antifa and BLM attack random people for merely supporting Trump. People are afraid of showing support for Trump especially to a shady pollster.

I cannot believe Trump is down 12 points. If they said he was down 2-5 points then with the debate and COVID diagnosis it could make sense.

But 12 points is a ridiculous deficit that doesn't reflect reality.

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jsd512 4 points ago +4 / -0

This definitely has me worried. If Biden wins, we are all fucked. We are so fucked. Everything we fear, will become a reality. I just don't understand how any can support Biden??????????? I am starting to think that Trump is going to lose. For the first time, I think Trump is going to lose. It is written in the bible, this world is going to fall apart and God will come to save us. We don't win in the end, we get bailed out by God. Go vote, that's all you can do.

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onetruephilosoraptor 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is the whole point of these fake polls. To make you feel demoralized.

Don't get demoralized.

Go out and vote for Trump.

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MAGAHEALER 3 points ago +3 / -0

Most people are low information voters who chase the latest MSN headline. They aren’t informed like us. Still TIPP the most accurate poll over the last 16 years has trump only down by 3 and margin of error is 2.5. Democracy institute has him up 1 point.

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onetruephilosoraptor 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't understand why people like you still give this much credence to polls.

I have seen how polls can be gamed as someone who worked in a statistics related field in academia.

By oversampling your preferred demographic and undersampling your unwanted demographic you can get any result you want. Don't even get me started on the polling questions and how you can word them in a way to get the answer you want.

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MAGAHEALER -1 points ago +2 / -3

TIPP doesn’t over sample. You realIze some pollsters actually try to be accurate and figure out who is winning right?

And polls in 2016 weren’t majorly wrong. The cunt did win the popular vote right around where she was polling. This whole attitude that all polls are fake and wrong is a major COPE by people on this site. Biden has a legitimate chance at winning. A lot of people on here are in for a huge shock.

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onetruephilosoraptor 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are judging the veracity of these polls based on a false premise.

This year is not the same as 2016.

You understand that the globalist elites are going to try even harder to demoralize Trump voters.

In 2016 they thought that there was no way that Trump could win, they learned that they were wrong.

This year, they will be and already are pulling out all the stops.

I am wary of polls myself because I have often been the person asked to run polls in an academia setting. I left quickly when they made it clear I had no choice but to give them the answers they wanted and not get real data.

Is it that unlikely that this year that even pollsters that were honest last cycle could change their ways if they were encouraged or threatened to change by those who have enormous power?

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MAGAHEALER 1 point ago +2 / -1

The problem I have with this theory. A lot of these pollsters are independent and run their own firms. So the “give me the answers” I want approach has to be flawed.

Obviously the polls that say trump is down 12 points are bullshit. But it’s very plausible for him to be down 5 points nationally. It’s impossible for trump to win the popular vote. Or any conservative for that matter.

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onetruephilosoraptor 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you believe President Trump then you can believe that there is a Deep State bureaucracy running the biggest government agencies in the U.S. but you don't believe that they are able to influence some polling firms? What I am suggesting is not something anywhere near far-fetched.

I agree that it is possible that Trump is really down nationally anywhere from 1-5 points currently due to the shitshow of the Wallace Biden tagteam debate and the positive COVID diagnosis.

I do disagree with you that it is impossible for Trump to win the popular vote. I think it is unlikely for him to win due to how many rabid Democrat voters there are in the largest cities it but that is not the same thing as completely impossible.

What would be impossible is how some people here actually believe that Trump can win 49 states. That is truly impossible.

I am not deluded and I am not stuck in that echo-chamber way of thinking.

I predict that Trump can win the election by a reasonable margin electorally. I am guessing anwhere from 290-330 electoral votes.

I think it is likely Trump will still win but it will be close thanks to the voter fraud they will undoubtedly bust out.

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Libertas1776 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

And polls in 2016 weren’t majorly wrong. The cunt did win the popular vote right around where she was polling. This whole attitude that all polls are fake and wrong is a major COPE by people on this site.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Even Nate Silver has said that’s BS. The polls had her up by around seven pints in October before magically coming down two weeks prior to the election.

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MAGAHEALER 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yeah all polls have trump down except democrat institute.

TIPP has him down -3.