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posted ago by AGhost ago by AGhost +776 / -0

Everyone with a pistol brace get ready. ATF is going to war with the creator of the Honey Badger. They ruled one of his pistols is an SBR. This is just one pistol, and one company. But it is the start of the plan uncovered back in June. ATF is sick of the brace, and they want the tax money they get for SBRs. We elected Trump to stop shit like this. I know some of the President's people lurk here. You want voter problems? Fuck with our guns. Defang the ATF now. For more info look up Colion Noir's latest video. Upvote this until someone important sees it!

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American-stormcloak 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm not sure I get the relation of hcq with our 2A. Medicine is not enshrined in our constitution. Guns are. And accessories have been upheld forever as also part of the 2A. It's just been lately they've been trying to Infringe on them aggressively. They've really sped up on striking down our firearms/accessories in Trump's first term, with no legal ground. And yet they do it.

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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

...just been lately...

Can’t agree with that part. The relation with HCQ is that both issues are pretty straightforward and clear to anyone with any amount of intellectual honesty. But HCQ shows what happens on even that type of issue when Trump turns attention to the topic — it sparks a reactive firestorm that can set things back rather than move them forward.

Trump does best when he can wrest some control over the timing — which is what I think he tried to do with the bumpstock ban — delay and deflate the angry post-Walmart shooting media-inflamed atmosphere against guns, with an (unconstitutional) order he expected to be reversed by the courts.

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American-stormcloak 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's the presidents job. To stand up for our rights, no matter how much they screech. Doing the right thing isn't always popular. Especially in today's clown world. But it must be done. Surrendering to the mob has only gotten us to a more weakened state and led to mass erosion of rights.

And that EO is, as you rightly stated, unconstitutional. Except, it hasn't been overturned. And more than likely won't be. The NRA hasn't challenged it. The president hasn't challenged it. When will it be challenged and over turned? I see no getting them back after that EO ( unless the SCOTUS grows a big ass pair of balls. Hell they refuse to hear 2A cases all the time. This will probably be no different. And I pray I'm wrong, but I doubt it. )

You're also right about Trump using timing as a tool. But I don't wanna play chicken with my 2A rights and hope for the best. That's risky AF, and a disservice to every AMERICAN. We don't know what the future holds. Democraps could sweep the next election and just keep rolling with the current anti-2A climate at the ATF.

Like I said, I hope all this " over turning" happens but I'm not holding my breath. SCOTUS ( if we get ACB on there, MAYBE, we got a slim chance ) is our only hope. But I'm not feeling to confident on their rulings lately either.

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Chopblock 2 points ago +2 / -0

It was challenged, and ridiculously, upheld. Regardless, you stated at least one good reason to delay fighting that issue — you need a conservative Court.

A soldier doesn’t run straight into a machine gun line of fire. They fall back and flank. Remember the public attitude of hysteria at the time — Trump did what he had to do. What he gave up is nothing in the big scheme of things — the Democrats would have steamrolled over it anyway.

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American-stormcloak 1 point ago +1 / -0

First I've heard of it being challenged. Will look into it. Hopefully there's a nugget in there that could shed some light on the "constitutionality" of that EO. (It wasn't constitutional)

So what happens when they use the same outrage over AR's? Will we give them up because it's politically favorably right after a shooting to ban them? It's the exact same thing. Erosion is erosion. Shooting happens-- ban thing that did the shooting ( instead of putting the blame on the SHOOTER ). This is a losing strategy. Grand scheme of things is, we're losing our rights at a record pace and bending knee to the mob doesn't help. It only emboldens them to go for more.

"Give an inch and they take a mile". Truer today than ever.

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9000ENERGY 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is the correct answer