Good morning patriots
Last night was certainly ⚡ Electric ⚡. I am not sure how many seconds 2 minutes is but it seems that men get about 50 and women get 180. Women also seem to be able to rebut as much as they want. Even with this inherent disparity Pence proves once again why he is the best vice president and why Trump's love for him never wavers. Feel free to discuss this debate here. Try to keep top level comments limited to clips and debate topics.
The fact that MSM news is saying Harris was subjected to “mansplaining” just shows she is not capable of being a leader in any way shape or form.
If you have to use your vagina as an excuse for lying, having no rebuttals & refusing to answer any policies, YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE G20, Iran, N Korea, Syria etc
That’s what I kept asking my fiancé.
“Can you imagine her dealing with other world leaders when she’s this flustered on the debate stage?”
edit: no
Kamala is a hysterical hobgoblin. The kind of woman that would come on to you and then accuse you of rape if you denied her disgusting behavior.
There's not a chance in hell I would ever want this woman fighting for me on some world stage. She would stand no chance against any of the powerful men in the world. Cucked and blue-pilled.
Obama proved that preemptively bending over and letting other nations fuck you doesn’t mean they’ll be nice to you after. Providing a bigger butthole for them to fuck isn’t going to help us any.
she would not be dealing w world leaders...prolly hrc would...another stint at SoS? why not?
I’m a woman too & couldn’t agree more!
This country deserves someone who will act swiftly, smartly & with concise vengeance when needed. Someone who can fight for our country at the deal table while also fighting for peace on the world stage. We deserve Trump!!
It's funny cause women can have the capacity to be a great leader. But everything that makes a great leader women are far more likely to not want to do.
They can always bail out on their lives and join someone else's. Unless they are 3 out of ten and a complete bitch they have an easy way out. I would would date a nice woman who is a 4 anyday and let her live in my house rent free provided she wasn't causing problems. And helping me out instead of hindering me.
Because the option of the easy way out exists people will take that. And women are far more likely to have that option.
Being the president or leader of anything usually sucks on top of that. It’s not the best position to be in. You’re mostly viewed in a negative light and work obscene hours and have lots of stress. You get more money that you then likely have no time to spend or enjoy for the duration of your position. People bitch about people like Elon Musk having a lot of money, but he at times sleeps on the factory floor and works almost non stop at what he does. Same with Bezos and the rest.
All the power to any woman that wants to work in that manner, and I’m sure some women are capable of it. It’s kind of a silly option to choose though when the alternatives are better across almost all metrics. I don’t even know why Trump wanted to be president. Basically tanked his quality of life. He’s losing money left and right. At his age, he could have sailed off into the sunset and lived happily ever after.
63 year young woman here and I totally agree. Tired of women who flat back their way to the top and then claim they're somehow qualified for the job. And I don't need lectured by the slut either. I want a fighter who will do what he says he's going to do and Trump has done that.
They’re mad because pence interrupted a woman and mansplained. Would they be mad if he interrupted a man or corrected something incorrect that was said because he did that to a man?
The two people on state are supposed to be treated as equals. Therefore, it has no bearing on whether or not they are men or women. If pence needed to speak to her differently because she is a women, then they aren’t equals.
Period.
Agreed. The concept of ‘Mansplaining’ is based on the assumption that women are stupid worthless children. Postmodernists reframe any disagreement as an ‘act of violence’ to the point that I think we probably would be better off if someone just smacked somebody if they said stupid shit like that so they’d stop calling everything violence.
I'd say yes. This is exactly what they did after the Biden debate. I'm not keen on someone constantly interrupting someone else but if they are going to premise what they say based on a lie then they need to be stopped and corrected that very moment. It's one things to have a different opinion, it's another to willfully continue the spread of the same old lies.
To quote Kamala. “It was a debate!”
It's interesting that not long ago women were tough as fuck even though they stayed home. They fulfilled a traditional role but they were incredibly strong and strong willed. They also had wisdom and my grandmothers taught me things (a man) that I have no forgotten. What passes for a young lady these days is complete crap at least 50% of the time. They are so weak and useless now that they spend a lot of time trying to convince everyone how strong and useful they are. This gives them away. I honestly think that going back to the way things were would much men and women both much more happy though I don't want to see women prevented from doing things they want to do.
I love how feminists want women to not be subject to the "societal norms the patriarchy have forced on them," but at the same time expect me to fulfill my societal norms by being rich and taking care of their loser asses lol.
Lulll excellent point.
"Waahhhhh the Ayatollah MAN-splained to me!!"
"Ha Ha Islamic mysoginy go Brrt"
She'll just go 'global' with her mouth.
Did anyone else notice that she looked at the camera and snidely explained to the american people the definitions of bounties and debts. Only a cunty liberal elite can be that tone deaf
Underrated comment.
When the moderators say "no one knows.what the topics / questions will be", I just roll my eyes.
While the mod was saying this kamala was blinking like crazy
Haha I noticed this too
They were almost the exact same questions as the presidential debate. In almost the exact same order.
Makes it even funnier that she still lost so hard despite them liking cheating in her favor like they always do.
And when the mod said that there was a question sent in by a little girl she nodded as if she knew that already. Pence explained to her how the adult political world works sometimes and Kamala explained how fucked Trump is.
The other one that really struck me was whenever the mod. would say "thank you" as in, your time is up, and Kamala would say, 'you're welcome.' WTF? Who does that?
My favourite comments this morning : Mansplaining- the act of being right while being a man
Also funny how the lefties are losing it over the fly, forgetting the exact same thing happened to Hillary, except it was right on her face
I wonder how they don't realize how sexist the whole "mansplaining" bullshit is. It basically implies that a man can't have a conversation with a woman without her feeling condescended / placated to.
There's a reason men feel less comfortable talking to women in work areas. They're only hurting themselves.
Here is an excellent clip of Feminist logic and why men won't speak to women.
Feminist Sticks and Stones:
https://imgur.com/gallery/kQSKbME
No no you have to give me time to womansplain this!!!
They are going so crazy about it, because it managed to actual take a decisive stand--landing something and staying there--whereas Kamala avoided or twisted every question, just repeating the same bullshit while nodding her head nonstop like she was anxiously just hoping the audience is already agreeing with her. That's also why she tends to say "y'know" when she's talking, which is what someone says when they're trying clumsily and even desperately to convince you of what they're saying. "President OrangeMan is, y'know, not really good, and we need to, y'know, go in a different direction as a country. Y'know? Right?"😬
Trump needs to use Mike Pence more. He counters the narrative that the admin is too crazy etc. Pence is daddy cool.
Get Pence out in the public more.
Absolutely! Fire and Ice!
Silver and Gold.
Cheeto and cool ranch
You've gotta know there's a reason Trump hasn't dumped Pence. Do you think he would hesitate? I think POTUS relies more heavily on Silver Fox than we have realized.
We need a new genre of movies, "buddy president".
Agreed. They should have had that as the first debate because Joe is so old and may not make it physically, we all know mentally he can’t.
Pence owned the room. She looked like a child who doesn’t understand the issues, and isn’t ready for the big leagues. Pence oozed authority in a calm, collected way. Super presidential.
But CNN afterward, "she had a calm smile on her face the whole time which just shows how calm and cool she is and presidential." No you cucks that is leering feminist bullshit that means, "I think you are an idiot and am condescending to everyone around me." Pence owned that bitch and she knew it which is why she had to resort to "I'm talking right now yeah? yeah? OK" Nobody likes people like that. Nobody. Well CNN does but.....
I have to ask, since this has really been bothering me: Why does every debate have a segment/topic solely on “race relations”. That’s a manufactured “issue” by the media. I’m sure the American people are more concerned with (and want to hear about) issues that actually impact our country - foreign policy, economy/jobs, SCOTUS, election interference, healthcare, education (or these days, indoctrination). It’s a total waste of a debate slot purely used to stir the pot.
These whackos actually believe white Americans hate blacks, based off of a few examples of career black criminals coming into illicit contact with law enforcement. Blacks have the same opportunity to work, pay taxes, own a home, as whites do. “Systemic racism” does not exist - but criminals with no desire to ever live the American dream do.
Also, “race relations” now boils down to just Black vs White. The media has totally brushed aside other races in our country simply to support their narrative. It’s pure evil.
I remember back in the early / mid 90's when Clintons WH set stricter mandates on AA stirring the pot. Even back then folks were saying it's gonna end up being reverse racism. Fast forward almost 30 years.
dug up this up from archive
And college acceptance criteria, which discriminates against asians.
You’d think statistics would squash any mention of white supremacy. If anything they should be arguing against Asian supremacy because they top seemingly all good charts and are on the bottom of all bad charts. Do scary white men hate blacks such much that they rigged their own system at all levels to favor Asians? It doesn’t make any sense.
Answered your own question there mate
They literally have nothing else.
Bc the left are racists. They even hate Trump for being orange.
They are kiddie fucking racists
You know, I think the real gem from Pence's performance last night wasn't the content of his words (albeit effective) but rather his statesmanship. He came off as a true statesman, not a politician. He was soft spoken but firm. And despite his seemingly timid nature, it was evident that behind those eyes rests a fierce warrior. Color me impressed pedes, Mike Pence wiped the floor last night by just about every metric.
He is a well seasoned speaker and debater, like you said, a statesman, not a politician. Kamala is a two bit prosecutor.
"....Vice President Pence you have 2 minutes"
45 seconds later
So that was a fuckin' lie
I don't have the spare time to go through it and time it myself, but it was pretty obvious the moderator was being highly biased with timing.
Interrupted pence EVERY SINGLE TIME he was making a point. Watch it again. The second he came to the point of his statement the moderator started flapping her cock sucker.
Someone else pointed out that she interrupted Pence before time was up several times. Someone really needs to make a video with a timer-overlay, showing the interruptions, times, etc.
It was obvious there was no timer. These networks are a fucking joke.
Pence was cut short about 20 seconds on multiple questions. Even Kamala's "IM SPEAKING" moment was on Pence's time. Moderator wasn't as bad as Wallace but still sucked.
Maybe a bit, but also much better than last week
She was talking to the 18-24 year old college kids that Kamala said were all stupid
She was so condescending. Her little “history lesson” was the most annoying thing. I couldn’t even care what she was saying about Lincoln because I couldn’t get past how she was talking to the American public as if they were 5 year olds. Ugh. She makes me want to throw up
She was pandering to the kids that aren’t old enough to vote.. weird strategy
She did the same thing in the last question when she kept referring to Bhraeckhlynn's "leadership".
She's grooming them for Biden.
To her, all of us deplorables are retarded.
Pence showed he knew the issues, was calm and professional to the whores eye rolling, joker smiling, smirking, and laughing. She would not answer direct questions and that was a planned strategy. Green new deal..DEFLECT, Pack the courts...DEFLECT..anytime a salient question was posed by the leftist in the tank for the dems mod she would not answer. Pence got on average 70 seconds before the leftist mod start in with the "thank you Mr.VP x10", but Pence handled it very well and ignored her or gave her the "Susan...Susan...Sue..the American people want to hear this". Pence was the adult and Harris was a child. Oh, and Harris 100% had the questions before hand it was obvious from her blatant answer to the mod regarding Pence's answer being a good segue into the next question and Harris said "yes it is". You would only answer like that if you already knew what the next question would be.
very good point about CUM-ula knowing the questions beforehand. I noticed that little exchange of "yes it is!" and little Hillary-esque cackle. I thought something was fucky at that time, but of course the moderator is a leftist hack, someone here posted how she wrote a book, a glowing biography of Pelosi's retarded ass so...
I absolutely hated the constant look I’m Kamala’s face that basically was trying to say “everything you’re saying is ridiculous” but in reality she just looked like a massive cunt and a child.
So she’s definitely a liberal.
Go back and watch the VP debates between Biden and Ryan. Biden had the same strategy. Just laughed and lied about everything. Drove me nuts.
CNN gushing this AM on their website how Cumala won the debate by a wide margin, and Van Jones gushing over the fact a “black” woman displayed presidential level thinking.
I’m serious
Fake news is fake
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Their surprise is the soft bigotry of low expectations. They are intrinsically racist.
Van Jones is envious of Don Lemon's title of the dumbest man on TV
The funniest part was, when Kamala bragged about having support from Bush Republicans. Who is that even appealing to?
I laughed my retarded head off when she said they have bush administration people supporting them!
IKR? I was thinking: "Wow, that's a list of people I wouldn't ever take advice from"
Here's my list: Romney, Kaisich, Collins, Murkowski, Flake the faggots in the Lincoln project and I'm sure John McCain will vote for her.
And 7 rando military bureaucrats or something support him too. Who the fuck cares. People voting for Trump don't give a fuck (and I would think most independents) what the establishment thinks. That's the point.
Why doesn't CNN ask Bush himself if he supports Kamala ( LOL ) or if he even knows anybody who supports her ?
His words had more substance - good use of time.
Harris takes too much time in forming her mouth for speech - her greatest accomplishments with her mouth needs no vocals remember.
And her laugh makes ya wanna shove something in her mouth to shut her up.
Could you please elaborate a bit more on this if possible? Need to use facts and figures around this today (if and when it comes up).
The only thing I can find right now is fake news CNN's take on the speaking time.
These numbers are from ABC political director Rick Klein on Twitter.
Someone really needs to break down the debate with a timer. The moderator interrupted Pence probably 5x as much as Harris, and Pence spoke less.
That last question when the moderator let Kamala speak, rather than ask the question and then let her use the two minutes how she wanted, was the worst offense
And that whiney nasally voice!
it really bothers me to no end, her voice.
Diversity hire vs the real deal.
Diversity hire got schooled.
As expected. Diversity hires is why California is a shit show
Her describing how she got selected was soooooo cringe! She might as well have just used the words "diversity hire."
One thing I noticed was the debate strategy Pence used. In the beginning Harris went in shooting from the hip, it was blatantly obvious she was trying to get a rise out of Pence. Pence took the marathon approach. He remained calm, concise and to the point with every question and rebuttal. If you noticed towards the middle and to the end Harris was getting worn down and didn't have that same all out attack. She was overwhelmed and brought the same 'talking points' over and over.
Also, almost every single statement of hers started with this administration or this president bad, nothing but finger pointing. She also flat out lied on multiple points fracking and the green new deal the most immediate coming to mind. Pence flat out took the wrecking ball to her on covid response, economy and military.
The highlight though was the end. The last question from that 8th grade student. Pence nailed that perfectly, Harris wiggled around it and couldn't answer an 8th graders question. The icing on the cake if anyone cared to stay on and watch when Mrs. Pence came on stage to congratulate our VP she wasn't wearing a mask, then the camera pans out and you see Harris's husband standing next to her wearing a mask. It was a very sobering image, on the right you have based Pence family no mask and on the left cucked Harris family in mask with a silly look in his eyes. Right then and there it was for all Americans to see where each side stands.
Wrecking Ball Pence won that debate, I don't care what any MSM outlet says. He handled that like a pro.
Good summary. Also the last question from the 8th grader was all you needed to see.
“Why can’t we come together?”
Pence gave the classy, uplifting message. And of course Harris couldn’t help with ‘orange mad bad’, which made her look so petty.
That’s the problem with the demonic left today. They think Trump is the issue (spoiler alert: it’s actually their Godless soul) and that if he just got out of the way we can go back to ‘normal’ (another reason we’re in the perpetual lockdown, as it’s a demonic projection of their tormented souls as Trump lives rent free in their mind).
They have nothing. Trump ruined them. And thank the Lord Jesus Christ they have been exposed. Let’s go in for the death blow November 3rd please
You would wear a mask too if you had tI be near Kamala.
More like a hazmat suit!
More like an AR15.
I absolutely hated the last question. It was obviously biased, given the media's slander against Trump these last few years, obviously not written by and 8 year old, and obviously manipulative.
That said, Pence knocked it out of the park. Kamala's answer was basically "orange man bad" which was the very divisiveness this "8th grader" was complaining about.
Based on how government works, and what people often want from government, I often find it a good thing they don't cooperate more. Most of that "cooperation" would mean people taking away my rights, and my property.
Bisch used a kids question on division, to sow greater division. Really spectacular work, Senator.
question from an "8 year old"
and that kids name? Einstein.
8th grader, not 8 year old
Reset the 24 hour timer, since the left brought out their Marxist Raycyst division again.
I was honestly a little nervous for Pence before the debate.. the debate showed I clearly didn't know Pence as well as I thought, the man put on a clinic.
Did you watch him debate Kaine? The man is unflappable and indomitable.
Only a couple of the highlights, but in all fairness I thought Kaine was a pushover. I expected Harris to put up much more of a fight than Kaine.
I had heard Pence was a fucking boss on the debate stage. This was the first time I've seen him debate, and he didn't dissapoint.
Just watched some of it. When they moved to taxes/jobs. The mod said "that's a great transition to our next question." Harris said "yes it is" how in the hell did she know what the next question was?
I threw my hands up in the air when I heard it as if they had done this before and agreed to it.
I heard that too..and she had a big smile on her face. She knew what was coming.
Sure seems like she knew what was coming but trying to think of alternatives, she might just have been desperate to move on to the next subject.
Pence came across as that ideal, conservative statesman from eras past.
He was genuine, compassionate, and principled. It made me realize, maybe a little late, how strategic and clever a pick he was for 2016. Facing Kamala revealed how perfect a foil he is for Trump.
I love Trump for Trump, and no one else can pull it off. This is Trump's party now, and Pence gets it. He might have the look of a good old Republican, but he is a Trumpian, and this debate showed me that he is in our fight.
The debate showed the American people two things:
Kamala Harris is not ready to be POTUS (which is their poorly-disguised plan)
Mike Pence embodies Trump's Republican party. He is what Trump meant when he said he would teach them to win again.
Your spot on and well put 'Statesman from eras past'. Pence is a true team player and I don't think we could've had a better VP up there last night. I'm still amazed at his resolve and professionalism through the entire debate.
The debate was a microcosm of the larger race. Harris got schooled on almost every issue, but continues to get away with lying on coronavirus. The lie that the administration's response was inadequate is the linchpin of this election. More time needs to be spent countering this narrative.
Meanwhile stacking the supreme court is Biden and Harris' biggest weakness. This can be exploited more.
As usual, the debate "questions" were all 1-2 minute democrat talking point statements. Literally spewing out a bunch of information as if it was a fact and there of course is no time for Pence to actually respond to those. They are just accepted and then finally the question is posed at the end.
Example - Global warming is causing hurricanes to slow down and be wetter and the fires on the west coast are caused by it too and are burning hotter. The moderator stated that as fact.
How about, simply asking what is your position on the environment. Boom thats all you need to ask, and let THEM talk. They could have spoke for an extra half hour!
Are you surprised? They are Democratic Moderators so obviously they believe all the left talking points as facts.
They were. The moderator was superior to Wallace, but should not be praised. She opened the door repeatedly for Harris to spew lies and every "question" was from the perspective of the left / democrat / globalist. Completely unacceptable.
Republicans should quit participating in any debates that are obviously rigged and start holding true town halls with honest questions from honest people ... That way they can give honest answers without being constantly on defense.
These are a waste of time and accomplish nothing more than establishing that left-wing talking points are the talking points.
"I want to talk about (insert left wing bs topic). The (paid for, grant-based, tax raising) science is settled! Republican / Non-Dem candidate, you're clearly an evil backwards ingrate. Can you explain why?"
Cuck Wallace did this in the last debate too. They have decided, but when most dont believe that crap they look like fools. Its the same "do you enjoy beating your wife line".
Thank you for pointing this out. The questions were deliberately constructed so that 2 minutes are not nearly enough to respond adequately from an even leveled playing field.
Its the only way they could make this seem like a fair debate (and then give her much more time and cut off Pence in the middle of important ending statements).
Exactly
I don't know why Republicans don't address this. " Your question is based upon a false premise and is a strong indicator of your liberal bias... "
Because then the spin is ThE gOp DoEsNt ReSpECt ThE FiRsT AmMenDmEnT
Heels Up proved one thing last night.
She would be a dangerous president. She would never be able to bring in international peace deals and would drag America into wars we would never be able to get out of. I not talking about wars over in the middle east.
With the way the world is heading with governments willing to sink their economies because a couple of people dead of the flu. The world is about to become very unstable.
America needs a very stable mind in the WH. Not some unhinged psychopath.
The real genius of Pence's performance was how he brought Harris's lunacy out for the world to see. He dealt with her the way a great comedian deals with a heckler. Pence couldn't come out and run her over like a semi truck, he would've lost the crowd. He waited for Kamala's unlikeable nature to show through. After a few snide, bitchy comments he began to push her buttons until she was so full of rage her voice was thickened with tears. After that she came off as Hindu Hillary. You could feel the energy turning on her, the crowd rooting for Pence to crush her. Then, when the supreme court question came up Pence unleashed. Pence bludgeoned Harris like a baby seal in front of the whole world. I think Kamala Harris, in the eyes of the DNC, went from a viable 2024 candidate to a permanent back bencher.
The Silver Fox truly is the perfect VP for our beloved GEOTUS. As is his nature, Pence treated Kamala respectfully, and thusly disarmed her from the beginning. He only interrupted on occasion, and when he did, he kept his voice calm, and low, subtlety commanding the viewers to fixate their eyes on him. She was too obviously prepped for her moment to play the silenced-woman card, “IM SPEAKING.” Pence treated his opponent like she was an angry child, and Harris only exposed herself as such, with her face twitching and pompous smirks the moment she felt she had the attention. Although, when you started to suspect the Fox was going to let her keep getting away with answering every debate question with the ole “orange man bad” response, Pence suddenly showed glimpses of his claws; and became the righteous masculine man. There are certain people that almost never show when they are upset, but when they do, you know they are justified. Well done Mr. VP. We don’t see enough of you.
Strumming my pain with his fingers, Singing my life with his words, Killing me softly with his song, Killing me softly with his song, Telling my whole life with his words, Killing me softly with his song.
Nobody better at that than The Silver Fox!
Mike "the smiling assassin" Pence
Pathetic, she couldn't even make it through without playing the race card.
Several times
"Not one of them were black!!" referring to federal court appointments
Pence absolutely dominated, it wasn't even close.
The questions the moderator asked were fucking terrible. I don't think I cared for a single question the moderator asked, they were all corona-virus or boring pop-culture, or "Drumpf is a racist." type nonsense. The last question from the "8th grader" clearly wasn't written by an 8th grader, and was extremely manipulative. That said, Pence aced it, while Kamala answered "orange man bad."
The moderator also interrupted pence 6x as much as Kamala, but somehow Kamala talked 3 minutes longer than Pence.
Someone really needs to create a video of the debate, with a timer of interruptions & time spoken by each candidate per segment and overall.
Also, when asked a question first, she was often given a chance to respond after Pence because of her whining. He handled the unfairness just as I hoped. Calm, cool, and fox-like.
You mean you don't think it's important that the VP and the VP candidate address the MURDER OF A STRONG EMT BLACK WOMAN IN HER BED BY RACIST PIG COPS!????? (I mean, she was an EMT 4 years ago, and uh...she had a dead body in her car...and uh her boyfriend was a known drug dealer who the cops had been watching for a while, and uh...they fired on cops when they knocked on the door...)
Anywayzzz just memory hole that now, thanks, you're not allowed to know that information. Now it's time for our daily REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(racist)
Wtf.. those details completely change the whole thing. How can the fucking cunts misrepresent that on a vp debate stage. It’s almost worse than straight up lying.
Hahaha
I thought every question was just cringe, it's hard to rank which one was the worst. However I really rolled my eyes at the Breonna Taylor question. What the fuck does her case have to do with the presidency? It's not Pence's job either to know every tiny detail of every BLM cause.
Same with the covid questions. 10% into the next presidency, Covid will mostly be gone.
You’re entitled to your own opinion but not entitled to your own facts. What a line
In the first Romney - Obama debate, Mitt used that exact same line while he was in the process of beating Barry silly. Mitt's first debate performance was so overwhelming that the mods had to step in and accuse Mitt of lying in the second debate.
It knocked him off stride, gave Barry a chance to recover and it was downhill from there.
Did you see the look on Pence's face when she said "good line"? He looked at her like "bitch, I'm trying to save the country, not score points" while he continued speaking like the boss he is.
Love it! Pence was on it!
I loved that. The silver fox killed it despite the circumstances. If he wouldnt have been cut off every second time he spoke, he would have owned her with every answer.
I understand people can memory hole a lot of things, I lost my job in 2009 during the Obama Biden administration. I was laid off because the housing market crashed. Americans were given loans that they couldn't afford to pay back, so the residential homes I was helping build for an engineering consultant company could not afford to keep me. I ended up joining the military (best decision of my life) but I also never had any sort of cost of living adjustment/raise beside when I received a promotion. The military never received a pay raise until Trump. I was also threatened with not receiving pay many months in a row over the Affordable Care Act and Obama shutting down the government because he wouldn't get his way....
THAT ALL BEING SAID for that woman to claim BIDEN gave Trump the best economy Americans have ever had and expect us to believe it blows my mind. Because of TRUMPS ECONOMY, I bought a house on 2 acres, a new truck, and I STILL have money in savings... Am I supposed to say thanks Obama? THANKS OBAMA, for leaving all those judge appointments open you loser.
chuckles in Cocaine
Underrated comment
I'm out of the loop, can you explain?
Cocaine Mitch McConnell leads judicial confirmations
I remember several years under Obama when the economy was terrible. I saw prices rising in a lot of stuff.
I feel like the recession of 2007/2008 was on the way out by the time Obama got into office (it ended officially in June of 2009, so like 5 months after he was sworn in?)
So he pretty much inherited a good thing since any economist will tell you that after a recession comes recovery then expansion and an eventual boom.
But what people are counting on is ignoring the pseudo-recession we had in 2014. The deflation, the rise in gas prices (I used to work a job that used a lot of gas and one time it over 5$ a gallon!), as well as the lack of jobs. 2016 was also another sketchy year where economists say it was an "undercover" or hidden mini-recession.
Obama/Biden inherited a recovering economy and managed to turn it into multiple recessions. Meanwhile, Trump had steady unemployment decline and was doing fine until a pandemic wildcard happened. Fuck them.
Edit: also under Trump's administration, I haven't seen gas rise higher than 2.30 a gallon. That is the lowest I've seen it in years. I don't know if he had anything to do with it, but it's worth noting.
Another talking point I don't get is Biden/Harris constantly say they saved the American Auto Industry. The only thing they did was bail out C-Level mismanagement and a manufacturing crisis that they helped create with more government Dollars! Let's not forget, the many Union workers and salary workers who lost MOST of their pensions/401k! Trump/Pence are currently looking into getting these workers reimbursed.
'Saved' my ass.
Dave Rubin said that Pence was cut off at least 5 times before the two minute mark. Additionally, Harris was given free reign on rebuttals whereas Pence was consistently cut off.
I almost got my own stopwatch on my phone out...but then I was like what's the point, I know it's biased.
Simple solution.
If Pence could have snuck in one "OK Karen" he would've broken the internet.
Fake news today "MiKe PeNcE tHiNkS CUM-ula iZ HiZ SiStEr WiFe!!! ERRMAHGERRDDD-REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"
I would have been divorced by now with how many times I've said "stfu karen..."
with the slightest of eye rolls
I am sick and tired of Dems pretending that if Hillary Clinton had won in '16 America would somehow magically be the only country in the world with zero, literally not one single COVID death. Back in March the Dems were hysterically claiming that COVID was going to kill millions of Americans. We've cut that by an order of magnitude. If you're going to blame Trump for the 200K deaths, you have to give him credit for the 2M saved. You can't have it both ways.
Well to their point, they wouldn't have needed to launch it since they would have been in power.
Reddit is on fire because a fly landed on Pence's head lol. I guess that was the most remarkable part of the debate for them.
All the questions were in bad faith. "So VP Pence why did your administration KILL 200,000 Americans? HUH?"
Incredibly impressed with Vice President Pence. What a smooth operator that man is. Casually roasting both kamala and sleepy joe. The comment on joe’s plagiarism got a serious laugh out of me. He beat her on every level and made her look like an unlikable fool. Bravo
The moderator asked Pence some loaded questions such as asking why Trump hasn't denounced white supremacy. She also seemed more lenient on time with Harris. But she asked Harris some decent questions and she didn't try to inject herself into the debate. Not perfect, but far better than Wallace.
She said if Fauci and doctors said to take the Vax, she would want to, and if Trump said to take the Vax, she would not want to. But what if Trump said to take the Vax because Fauci and the doctors said to take the Vax. What then, Kamala? She's such a contrarian fearmonger.
I was watching the debates with my 15 year old son and even he heard that and turned to me and said "what, how does that make sense?"
This is like Pelosi who won't pass the stimulus bill because "it would have Trump's name on it, and we just can't allow him those kinds of wins." They'll fuck us all over just to get back at OrangeMan.
She said "I'd be first in line!"
Oh, so you would get it before literally everyone else? What a selfish bitch! Let the people who are at risk get it first
Man,.they need to label Harris as an antivaxxer.
I recall only one or two loaded questions for Kamala and several more to Pence. The question about a plan should the president become incapacitated was equally loaded for both of them, and neither one answered, nor should they have.
That aside, she was, HANDS DOWN, a better moderator than Wallace.
I'll give this moderator one thing - while she was a little bit swampy, she was miles away a better moderator and more "fair" than Wallace!
Yeah I’d have to say she was quite a bit better than Wallace, even with her loaded questions. That’s how bad Wallace was.
Agree. There were a couple eyerolls but I'll take her again over Wallace any day.
I think after the outrage that happened against Wallace after that debate, she wasn't going to try and do a repeat of his failure at moderating.
2 things I saw in the post-debate coverage that stood out:
Personally that shoulder and head bobbing up and down with the constant hair swinging was annoying AF.
"Both VP candidates dodge questions" (or something to that effect).
For CNN to actually admit that Harris refused to give straight answers was astonishing.
I think most people have literally never watched debates before. The 'continuing to talk until my thought is done' and the back and forth that constitutes the interruption is a part of the political judo going on. It's performance art. Pence only stumbled once on a question but he said some random unrelated stuff, then came back to his main points. It was amazing.
If Pence just stopped mid sentence because the moderator interrupted, he'd look like an idiot. Candidate's have always finished their thoughts.
My teenager was incensed to log onto Instagram and see people claiming Kamala won... this is redpilling her better than I ever could
She always looks like she's wearing the same outfit.
Reminds me of how Pee Wee Herman's suit fits. It's like someone dressing up as an adult.
Pence honestly dodged questions in a masterful way. A lot of the time the questions were bait or an attempt to drag him down into the mud, and he simply stepped around it like they weren't even there. Instead of diving into the weeds to answer the question he went straight to the heart of the issue and addressed the underlying causes, not just the symptoms they were asking about. It was great.
And some he just ignored entirely like that stupid have you talked about having to replace the president because he's old garbage. There are plans for everything. Of course it's been discussed at some level at some point. Everybody knows that, nobody cares.
Moderator wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Way better than Wallace.
The questions were as bad as I expected. They were designed to make statements.
Read the book Pre-Suasion: A Revolutionary Way to Influence and Persuade by Cialdini
Describes what these debate questions are - they pack in multiple assertions of fact and then expect the person to debate under that framed view of the world
Scum-baggery
Yep. They try to get candidates to buy into the faulty premise before answering!
This is true but it looks like Pence was prepared for it. Take the climate change question for example. Pence answered about the administration's conservation goals without conceding that the question's premises were true.
Yes I agree he was prepared for it and did great - but it took the right 30 years for the right to build up a defense against this, and the amount of ground that has been lost over this social blitzkrieg has been devastating
Nice reference. The harsh part of presuasion is that we are susceptible even if we are cognizant that we are being persuaded. Pence was just like “fuck yo question Susan”, not sure if pence is human or a cyborg sent back from the future.
I think reading Cialdinis 2 books is what red pilled me, I read them to get better at marketing and sales.. but after I read that it was just like the move "They Live" everyone who used these tricks on me became my enemy
Agreed. I thank Scott Adams for mentioning Cialdini. Manipulators that take our money are evil. Trump using this for powers of good is amazing though
Aren’t debate questions supposed to open ended and the same for both candidates? Like “what is your foreign relations policy and why is it better than you opponents”?
Yes
Wallace is setting the bar VERY low.
Can't stand Wallace. Still can't believe that theTrump campaign agreed to have him as moderator. Wallace has for a very long time been anti Trump. Surprised he's still on FOX, although FOX does have its shills, probably upset CNN won't take him.
fox is now part of fake news. Paul tyan is on the board and they hired donna brazile who helped clinton cheat on debates in the last cycle. Fox has zero integrity. With out Tucker and Judge Piro fox would be dead.
Don't forget Dobbs, Hannity and Angle. But I agree Tucker is currently holding FOX together. Otherwise can't stand FOX.
Fox News in 2020 is like CNN of 2000. Its just a testament to how far to the left both networks have gone over the years. I used to think that Larry King was an insufferable liberal but now he seems kind of moderate. He's moderate only relative to how wack job leftist the garbage currently on CNN is.
Her questions were part of the debate, i.e. propaganda.
Notice that she asked different questions to each VP candidate.
For example, she asked Pence why America had one of the highest death rates in the world from COVID. There are all sorts of lies built into that question, starting with the fact that most of those deaths occurred in 5 Democrat states.
By asking the right questions, she lets Harris present her best case, while always having Pence on the defense.
Of course, Pence was too smart for that, and he made sure he got his points in anyway.
I'M CHRISH WOLLASH!
Really? That moderator was so bad. Every question for pence was a loaded question. Every question for kamala was a soft ball. Wallace was way better
That's fairly normal for the incumbent side. You get put on the defensive about your record. Obama/Romney debates were much the same
It wasn't like that when Wallace moderated though. Wallace had good questions for both candidates, he was just annoying with interruptions
I mean, the mod directly asked about SCOTUS packing. Direct question to Harris.
She also asked hard questions to Pence and he did a good job with them
I was not annoyed by the Moderator
Wallace asked about that too, but allowed Biden to escape with "I'm not answering that, that's not the issue"
How you could not be annoyed when Pence was demonstrably given less time, I don't understand.
She also didn't pin Harris down on the court packing question. She did not answer the question, and if the moderator wasn't shit she would have called her out on it.
She asked some good questions that neither of them answered.
I knew the media would declare Kamala winner either way, but I didn't know Pence would win so impressively. Sure enough, media declared Kamala the winner.
Chlamydia is better than wallace
Notice that when the Abortion issue came up, Kumala could not say Abortion... they have a new narrative to to use verbal gymnastics to dance around the term. They use words like “procedure” “reproductive rights” “woman’s rights”... it’s another leftist ploy to appeal to their base, who are a bunch of morons!
George Carlin had an amazing skit on exactly that. Changing words around to not hurt feelings or skirt the truth. Don't have it on hand, but definitely worth looking up. The man was way ahead of his time.
It’s called soft language.
Excuse me, I am speaking.
She went full Karen. Never go Full Karen.
Could you imagine the headlines if Pence talked to her using the same words and tone she used on him?
They are already saying the things regardless of how calm and cool he was: “mansplaining”
I was stunned the first time she did that. Then she goes and does it a second time. Her facial expression, her tone, her condescending attitude; I don't think she could have seemed more dislikable if she tried.
Pence is a treasure, him roasting Biden on plagiarism was too good man. Not sure what else people need to see - if Biden actually beats Trump then this country is so fucked.
Biden could never legitimately beat Trump. The D's will try with the fraud, but POTUS will still win.
Good morning, Thursday morning.
Or in Kamala speak, rolls over, what's your name again?
These questions man. Who is writing these questions??? No surprise when Kamala said "yes that IS a great segue Susan" locks eyes with Moderator HEY EVERYBODY I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT SUPER OBVIOUS THAT AS PER USUAL I - THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE - HAVE RECEIVED THE DEBATE QUESTIONS BEFOREHANDwink wink nudge nudge** NO ONE CAN TELL IM A PHONY AT ALL NO ONE. I GOT THIS FAM.
AND THEN CNN says Kamal has a handicap because shes a black woman???? This is typical backwards ass racist shit from liberals. AND THEN the only thing these liberals can focus on is the FLY???? REALLY? Liberals gobbling up the low hanging fruit. Why is it that I'm surprised.
Credit to u/B3fre for the clip: https://streamable.com/ryyibd
Kamala: "It's a great segue"
Credit to u/hillarysdildont for The NY Times archive link with the quote that the candidates supposedly weren’t given the topics (end of article): https://archive.is/Ig6fo
Nice, where do I pick up these credits you speak of?
Segue into WHAT you psychic harlot
when she was sworn into congress, heels-up made it all about being the first indian-american woman to serve in congress. i see last night, she decided to go with "i'm a black woman." black women need to call her skanky ass, OUT.
Is there nothing Fredo and Lemon won't say? They are more desperate than frat boys that have run out of roofies.
Reminder dems are the party of the KKK.
Its so funny because it doesn't matter if they have the questions or even wrote them themselves, the Dems have no leg to stand on, and get destroyed in these debates regardless!
Truth. Despite receiving the questions before hand she was still unprepared for the onslaught of the Silver Fox! Clearly she spent too much time practicing her debate faces in the mirror and not enough time practicing her lies- I mean answers.
Liberals will use whatever excuse they can.
If Trump VP was a black woman they would say something like
Tweet of the night:
https://twitter.com/greggutfeld/status/1314016808781918209
"someone is frazzled. and its not the guy who looks like he escaped the Franklin Mint."
EDIT: Holy fuck. Okay, maybe this one:
https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/status/1314060064710438913
"Mike Pence did such a number on that cop that #BlackLivesMatter just endorsed him"
Michael Malice's Twatter feed is hilarious. The man is a treasure.
Second tweet was a good one, LOL
Every time Pence started making really good points the moderator jumped in. Almost like they had an earpiece and the powers that be were like "Whoa, whoa, you gotta stop him on this!"
Whenever Pence said something that hit home, Kamala scribbled like a child. Her handlers undoubtedly told her to do this as a method of distracting the audience from a good argument, or to demonstrate she had legit counterpoints (and was making notes of them) even when she didn't. But she did it too much. So much that, like her smile, it seemed phony and contrite.
Someone should do a video, timing the debate, and showing the number & timing of interruptions.
I had the same reaction on both points. While this moderator was arguably better than Chris Wallace, she was definitely quick to interrupt when the VP got into certain territory.
He’s right!
She was such a bitch... "Excuse me I'm talking now kk bye"
Putin will smack the fake black off her.
What bugged me was how she kept saying "I will not be lectured by the vice president on..." like bitch he's the vp, that's no small feat. Maybe stop being a self righteous cunt and try to understand what he's saying. She's that high school valley girl who thinks her shit don't stink while everyone's trashing her behind her back and smiling in her face just because she's popular. Except CumAllah wasn't even popular with their base and dropped out in December. That's why you're being lectured kamala, you're insufferable and people are trying to help your stupid ass! Ok rant over lol
🤣🤣🤣
Another one was 'I wont be lectured from VP Pence'
No, it's called putting her in her place, she behaved like a middle school entitled brat with these statements. Was only waiting for her to say 'This is my safe space' or some some absurdity.
There are no aliens, just sayin.
Exactly what an alien would say
Now do unicorns 😂
"Neigh"
Laughs in War of the Worlds
Kamala’s response to the last question was hilariously bad, she sounded ridiculously nervous and made it clear she’s a shitty prosecutor and he’s a politician.