They are all corrupt, every gov agency was filled with fanatical leftist under Obama so that the Dems have permanent loyalists working for them regardless of elections. These alphabet agencies need to be torn down, every manager fired and investigated, including the DOJ. Then we would find out all of them are engaged in some level of corruption and don't give a rat's ass about the US Constitution or the American people.
They go nuclear at the prospect of lifetime SC appointees, yet keep quiet that they've seeded every government agency imaginable with their own lifetime unelected cronies.
and this would be the point where he calls up president Trump, and secret service then swoops in protecting everyone. And if the report is worth doing that, it would then surely be enough to have whomever did it hung
Only the dimmest of the Dimm believe that Donald Trump is going to let these people-- who have openly joked/threatened to put his children in cages and rape his family, and have mailed them poison-- walk away from all of this.
The notion that "nothing is going to happen!" is laugh-out-loud funny, and it seems to come predominantly from the middle-aged crowd, in my experience. ("Boomers")
Look, I get it. Your generation is cucked to hell, and yall have become acclimated to useless/worthless/treacherous government and disappointing results.
Most of you ridiculed us for supporting Trump during the primaries.
Most of you laughed at the idea he would defeat Hillary.
Most of you lamented that Trump wouldn't be able to get anything done, because of Muh Swamp.
I'M DONE listening to your opinion. Your generation has shown arguably the worst level of discernment in human history. You supported the Bush's, you supported Mitt Romney, you supported John McCain.
As a 30-year-old who is a father, speaking on behalf of my generation, I assure you that WE do have the stomach and the patience to defeat this evil. WE WILL WIN.
Now please respond with your pithy cynicism, dismissing me as a delusional Q-tard who doesn't understand life. Add it to the graveyard of opinions that have not aged well.
(PS - 30 Rock is a gay show, and Alec Baldwin is a pole-smoking faggot.)
How many throws they need to be given at this point? Russia collusion, impeachment, etc fuck man, thats enough treason, hang them all until theyre dead
My favorite is always "he's just giving them enough rope to hang themselves." At this point, the Deep State has about 32 miles of rope. How much do they need before the hangings start?
Just more bullshit to keep misleading the hopeful. “Durham is really digging in and following all the angles. Just wait. Boy it’s going to be big!” All BS.
Leftist cant explain why Q, The biggest leaker of all time hasent been removed from the White House but every deepstate one has!? 🤣 YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE(King Theoden meme)
every gov agency was filled with fanatical leftist under Obama
Yep. And that whoreson made political appointments and then converted those offices to "civil service" type protections. Hence the entrenched leftists.
Do not trouble yourself though, there is a solution to the problem. I used to work at a government bureaucracy and they had a simple soultion to "un-fireable" employees. Remove the position, remove the section, or just close down the whole department.
Evidence Surfaces of John Durham Grand Jury – Team Following Deep State Rabbit Hole Leading to SSCI Effort….
(reviewing an article from the NEW YORKER, of all places.)
Agreed. I don't think Nancy would be pursuing the 25th Amendment nonsense if this was true. She's trying to overshadow news that might be dropping. Sundance at CTH has an interesting article indicating that Durham has empaneled a grand jury over the phony Alfa Bank ping story. This rabbit hole leads to Mark Warner and the SSCI, which played a big part in the Obamagate coverup.
Swamp and Dems outworked the GOP and kept the cowards on their heals with 4 years of bullshit attacks when it was actually them that were at fault. Fucking amazing
This is actually NK and CCP shit, the media literally work on directives from the Democrat Party. Except in fascist countries, it's the ruling party party who runs the media.
If you study history, you would know to do things in the right order or bad outcomes happen. So for instance, making sure the farmers can and are growing enough food, making sure the arsenals have the capacity to produce enough weapons, that the standing army/navy is in fighting shape, that their is domestic energy indep production, etc. etc.
You don't be like Rumsfeld's "go to war with the army that you got". No, don't drive thin-skin alum amphib vehicles hundreds of miles into the urban areas or desert and wonder why there's high costs or casualties.
And newsflash, most humans are cowards in all points in history. Very few will put their own lives, wealth, reputation, and that of their family too on the line; which is why like the Signers of the Declaration of Indep that we support those like TRUMP whom are not cowards. Yes there's alot of cowards in the swamp, yes it still needs a whole lot more draining, Rome wasn't built in a day, the swamp in D.C. wont be drained in one either.
Facts dont care about your feelings, if you're not smart enough to see that the estsblishmrnt GOP was purposely weak and that the swamp is thick on both sides with assholes like Rosenstein, Wray, Haspel considering themselves Republicans, and so much scum that we had to deal with within own party like Ryan flake McCain Romney murkowski and Collins, then you just not worth the time of day.
Yup. Said it on day one. Anyone who thought a guy like Barr, who was Bush Sr.'s right hand man, came out of retirement to put a bunch of his old colleagues in jail was a total sucker. Trump included.
LIES and more LIES is all that comes from the Deep State Swamp. We The People, ask that JUSTICE be brought onto these TRAITORS. Is that so difficult ?!
I seriously would condemn Trump if he was doing anything that was not just. But these people literally did one of the worst things I have ever seen. the media doesnt fucking care. I sound crazy because I know something that is too complex to explain to my family but it is simply the most fucking important thing that fucking happned in our country and the fucking JUSTICE department wont fucking do the ultimate Justice.
If they get away with it, it will be hard to look at my flag without a bit of sadness...
The moment Grenell was put in place he would reveal his final swamp creature form out of nowhere. They’re layers deep and laying in wait. President Trump is the only non corrupt person in the entire government.
Hannity was revealed as comped when he was shut down from talking about Seth Rich. He can’t keep his dick in his pants so he can’t tell the truth. Plus if Hannity were AG he’d have three press conferences a day where he repeats the same thing and then sings along to Florida Georgia Line. Not sure what Tucker would do.
It should be done and ready. That's the whole point. Even Trump said so in his interview with Maria. Barr has all the information he needs and won't act. Words from Trumps mouth.
Look - Trump appointed him. If Barr fails to deliver, we have to be honest and say Trump fucked up. That is not hard to believe when he has fucked up with many appointments, especially AG (Sessions) and FBI (Wray).
Trump failed to look into his past and see 1) He worked for George "King NWO" Bush Sr. and 2) He worked for the CIA. If you were creating a DC swamp creature in a test tube, those would be two main ingredients. Fetal stem cells would be a third.
Trump has done good for this country, but many of his appointments have been utter failures and one gigantic negative of his administration has been swamp appointments to police the swamp.
Unfortunately we arent trying to be honest with ourselves here regarding this obvious fact shouting into our faces for the past four years. One big reason for this is the pervasiveness of the Q larp. Too many here still "trusting the plan" when there was never a grand plan; only a grand plot and it was Obama's.
The only possibility was post election, if that. Seems hard for people to wrap their minds around how difficult it would be to “clean house” when swamp culture has been manifest for decades and decades. It’s the criticism against q, whether true or not: waste years tick tocking super secret internal govt takedown instead of primarying MAGA congressional candidates and cleaning out local and state politics. We have no govts of note in hand, how can we expect 1-2 people at the head of the beast to do anything of note and the rest just fall in line, when they don’t agree?
Exactly! We need to oust and openly disavow Graham and all the other RINOS. We need a new party, MAGA. Completely clean house in every way. Get on school boards, local gov’t, committee...all the fuck the way up!
Get on school boards, local gov’t, committee...all the fuck the way up!
This! Think about all the shit with the scamdemic and the destruction of people's livelihoods and businesses. The governors played a big role in that, but it's local governments, city councils, county commissioners and mayors who carried out the implementation of it. They're the ones arresting business owners and taking away licenses. They're the ones creating local ordinances that allow police to cite or arrest people for dog muzzles. It's those school boards that are putting masks on little kids and facilitating the destruction of their little minds. Without these minion governments, the head of the snake has no power.
GEOTUS need only tweet the names of who he wants in HIS Republican party..he also needs to tweet who needs to Go like he did sessions...GLAD AF WE SENT THAT TRAITOR HOME
Barr’s dad hired Epstein, he’s born swamp and a tiger doesn’t change its stripes. He worked for George HW Bush. They would be trying to remove Trump no matter what, they’re scum. There will be no justice for Hillary and the like, they’re in charge.
I think the more accurate expression is “rules for thee but not for me”
I think it’s naive to assume that laws written by the DC elite would ever be used against them. The person you replied to sought fairness not attention however in DC if you want the “fair” outcome to come to pass, you need to fight harder than the next guy. It appears Barr and Durham were never chosen to fight, they were chosen to delay what we here believe to be long overdue justice.
We shouldn’t be surprised that investigators playing politics are not bringing charges against other investigators playing politics, because both of their “competing” interests are political, they attend the same dinner parties while pretending to be ideological opponents, they have ZERO intention of draining a swamp that brought them power and wealth.
They know that “us” being mostly civil would need to be pushed too hard and too fast to stir up the fervor required to depose them and remove their power. They prefer a slow boil, chip away at individualism and replace it with authoritarianism.
When they do bite more than they can chew, and conservatives take to the streets to demonstrate or take focused aim with the meme cannons, the DC power institutions can quickly and easily malign efforts with potent labeling across the politicians, the news media, and culture/entertainment media.
This news broke 2 weeks ago. We've already been told the report isn't coming before election so Barr can hopefully kill it if Trump loses. More old news.
You need to find someone willing to die for their country. The swamp is so vast that the candidate would have a much longer life expectancy in the Marines than when prosecuting corruption in DC.
Easier said than done when the position requires years or decades of work and investment to get to that point.
Yeah the tardification of using “concern troll” as a censoring mechanism is accepted here, cuz this is a Trump rally.
Simply cheer his picks as awesome....until he fires them. After which you can then trash Barr without being a concern troll, but not until after Trump fires him.
We knew they would try and run out the clock, and they did. I've never been more disgusted with our Government, especially our Intelligence agencies and DOJ. We have a two tiered justice system, with the left and Democrats untouchable and then us who go to jail for process crimes over fictional prosecution.
I bailed on Q when we were told that a big big big thing was happening Nov 8 last year or the year before. And literally nothing happened that week. If i want vague predictions about things that might not happen ill call a psychic hotline.
It's not that trump is bad at picking them, it's that the pool is poisoned by the senate confirmation aspect. You can trace most of Obamagate back to the senate (see the reporting by sundance) so they will not appoint anyone that isn't somewhat swampy.
Trump knows it is a game. RINOs in the senate pretend to work with Trump in some parts of his agenda, to get their "men" appointed to key positions.
If Trump fully antagonizes RINO senators like Lindsey Graham, then next time Dems launch an impeachment case against him, he is toast.
It is very demoralizing if you think about it. Trump can only hope to slowly chip away at their power, with a very limited timeframe of 2 terms.
As an outsider, I can see that this one downside of the American system of checks and balances, electing one person even if the most powerful position, cannot necessarily change the entire political system.
the American system of checks and balances does prevent a would-be dictator from abusing their power, that is true.
But it also means decades of rot (as one comment said) is going to be harder to clean up.
I think Barr is willing to do the job but he needs the American people to reassure him by having trump win.
You gotta put yourself in his shoes. Best case scenario he comes in with 18 months to an election, needs 9-12 months to put together good cases and that puts him 6 months from an election. If he starts this and trump loses (thanks to covid) it's all over and the revenge will be merciless.
He doesn't care about his life being ruined, he's old and has lived. But his kids and friends are at risk too. So what do you do? You hedge your bets. You don't do anything but prepare to destroy them if trump wins. That's the rational response. You can justify it as "letting the people decide." That's how you live with this self/family preservation decision.
Lol no fuckin way the current DNC ever takes power again to allow that would to allow the subjugation of our future...its no less than that even if it sounds extreme...nobody can tell me its night when the sky is blue and the fuckin sun is shining...we would be accepting the defeat of the revolution WE STARTED over a decade ago with anti big Gov movements....we as conservatives played our game the RIGHT WAY we seeded the doctrines..we pushed the narratives...we changed the discussions..and we eventually installed an OUTSIDER for our champion...this is HISTORY...TRUMP is our revolution and the reaction from the swamp has been predictable and vicious...we can never take the blue pill and go back to sleep..2016 was not just another election...it was the breaking point...those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable..to give the obama and Clinton administration's back the reigns of power would be to accept that our vote doesn't count and that we are ruled by a secret parallel government that is in no way accountable to our constitutional frame work...at that points its give me liberty...or...
I am not a political expert, so I can be wrong with these things but here's my 2c.
I used to think like "man, Trump is an idiot and wasting it".
But I realize from his personality, Trump likes winning, there's no freaking way he is cool with this. A lot of politics must be happening underneath.
Appointments have to be confirmed by senate. A lot of the GOP senators are RINOs. It is a game where they pretend to be on board Trump's agenda and help him out on certain stuff but some stuff like "draining the swamp" is taboo.
At the same time, Trump needs the senate to shield himself from repeated impeachment attempts so he needs to be in good graces with them as well.
So Trump is playing a game of chess with Dems, and also a separate game of chess with the RINOs like Lindsey Graham etc.
An example is when Trump nominated Ratcliffe to be DNI. I remember the GOP senators opposing it so Trump was forced to withdraw his nomination.
Later on, Trump got Ratcliffe thru as DNI, some political haggling must have occured behind the scenes.
Trump is also one man and no one man knows everything. He has to rely on advisors. The moment he won, those advisors kept close to him and influences his decisions. There is a reason Trump brought his family members along, despite the accusations of nepotism. I won't be surprised if some of Trump's trusted friends e.g. Hannity, turn out to be sleeper agents.
Next, even if Trump manages to get a trusted pick thru confirmation, the swamp is deep and can dig up dirt, money or simply blackmail of family members to corrupt people around him.
Notice how many of people who he has been with for some time, suddenly turn around stab him at the back.
I think of the deep state like cancer, it spreads and regrows back too.
Upvoted. Your truth matters. Let's call it for what it is. Trump 2020......but some outsider patriots need to come in and help Trump actually clean up the swamp.
You were an American when Bush was President, so you're just as tainted as anyone else who happened to be American and not fixing the problem. Being in Government during a coup doesn't automatically make you a traitor. There's a good chance President Bush Jr. had no fucking clue what was going on.
Why did it take Trump, to turn things around?
Is/Was Trump the ONLY American Patriot?
Is there ANY possibility AG Barr isn't his the same as his own Father?
Biden's team committed crimes for years...and Durham and Barr think this information isn't needed by voters to make an informed judgement? Time for Trump to go nuclear and release everything ON HIS OWN. Fuck those guys. It needs sunlight PRIOR to the election, otherwise its useless.
Can’t wait to see what the excuse is after Trump wins. It’ll be hilarious watching them use the Covid “two weeks to finish the report” strategy for four years.
This is the only possible positive spin. If internal polls are so good that they aren't at all worried about the election changing the outcome of the investigation/prosecutions, then you do this. But if they're telling the truth and they're worried about the investigation turning on them, we're in big trouble.
In essence, yeah. It's clear what happened. And it's clear that if the bureaucracy can so blatantly get away with sedition and so happily declare it so openly with the participation of a controlled, de facto state/Party media, we're totally fucked. The republic is officially over. Been so for a while, but now it's in inescapable fact and we're on an unavoidable trajectory.
Ive heard this too often to not comment. The republic isnt over. Its literally not. If it was they could have easily swooped in and just removed Trump from office or never let him in initially. Burned the constitution and made new laws.
We do have laws, states, a consittution, policies, procedures. These still exist.
The fact no one wants to swallow is that even though we see the “russiagate” “obamagate” “spygate” stuff as being a clear as day crime.
It wasnt a clear as day crime. Thats just it. You have to accept that.
Obama, the clintons , the swamp..... they wrote the laws, they know how to get around them and live within them. These arent dumb people. A mountain of evidence has to be built and its not easy. Especailly since almost none of us are US Law experts.
In addition to needed a ton of evidence thats hard to get, Trump has to navigate public opinion and the normies. Look what happened when the Dems brought a shit case to impeach Trump.... it backfired.
The republic isnt over. If you think it is, then take your money and get out before you end up in a containment work camp.
Am i happy with where things are, no!
Do i want justice served for criminals, yes!
Am I worried it might not be, sure!
But the flag still stands and we still are winning. If we werent the radicals would just take over, but they havent.
They are banking on it. They hope there won't be a unchained Trump not worried about re-election. One who will wash through DC like a tidal wave of rage.
And thus enters the part of me that is opposed to presidential term limits.
How can meaningful change ever be brought about if all of the actors are constantly looking over their shoulders trying to CYA themselves against the possibility of being on the receiving end of the opposition party?
While there are downsides to a "life-long"-esque model, there are some notable upsides as well...
I am going to try to look at this positively rather than be depressed over it. By dropping it right before the election at this point is going to come across as politically motivated and it will be immediately dismissed as such. If it comes later then it has potential to be treated more fairly.
There is also a likely problem Durham/Barr are facing right now, given how late into Trump's 1st term this investigation began. A lot of these deep state coup actors are holding out in cooperating with the investigation in hopes of Biden winning election. They know that if Biden wins they can tell the Durham team to go F themselves because Biden will let them all off and they will get away with it. So, for now, I suspect many are refusing to take deals, flip, cooperate.
When Trump wins Nov. 3rd they are likely going to be pounding down the door to make a deal because at that point they know they are F'd.
So, at this point, our only hope for the future of America is Trump winning. If he doesn't win, in my mind, their coup attempt was essentially a success because they damaged and muddied the water enough to hurt Trump from winning election, and it is going to be a win for the deep state as they show the world that they can get away with anything, including spying on a US Presidential candidate to no repercussions. It just validates in my mind how America as we know it is lost forever if we lose this election. There is literally that much weight behind this election because the deep state is only going to get stronger.
Vote and vote and vote, and get everyone you know to make sure they vote.
Shouldn’t be a “report” anyway.
Either a person is charged or is not charged.
Kind of fascist to be writing reports on Citizens.
Sounds like what the FBI does.
They are all corrupt, every gov agency was filled with fanatical leftist under Obama so that the Dems have permanent loyalists working for them regardless of elections. These alphabet agencies need to be torn down, every manager fired and investigated, including the DOJ. Then we would find out all of them are engaged in some level of corruption and don't give a rat's ass about the US Constitution or the American people.
Exactly.
They go nuclear at the prospect of lifetime SC appointees, yet keep quiet that they've seeded every government agency imaginable with their own lifetime unelected cronies.
Lets be honest they probably threatened his family.
and this would be the point where he calls up president Trump, and secret service then swoops in protecting everyone. And if the report is worth doing that, it would then surely be enough to have whomever did it hung
"Patriots in control. Timing is everything."
Only the dimmest of the Dimm i.e., a QAnon dupe would believe something as stupid as "Patriots in control"
Only the dimmest of the Dimm believe that Donald Trump is going to let these people-- who have openly joked/threatened to put his children in cages and rape his family, and have mailed them poison-- walk away from all of this.
The notion that "nothing is going to happen!" is laugh-out-loud funny, and it seems to come predominantly from the middle-aged crowd, in my experience. ("Boomers")
Look, I get it. Your generation is cucked to hell, and yall have become acclimated to useless/worthless/treacherous government and disappointing results.
Most of you ridiculed us for supporting Trump during the primaries.
Most of you laughed at the idea he would defeat Hillary.
Most of you lamented that Trump wouldn't be able to get anything done, because of Muh Swamp.
I'M DONE listening to your opinion. Your generation has shown arguably the worst level of discernment in human history. You supported the Bush's, you supported Mitt Romney, you supported John McCain.
As a 30-year-old who is a father, speaking on behalf of my generation, I assure you that WE do have the stomach and the patience to defeat this evil. WE WILL WIN.
Now please respond with your pithy cynicism, dismissing me as a delusional Q-tard who doesn't understand life. Add it to the graveyard of opinions that have not aged well.
(PS - 30 Rock is a gay show, and Alec Baldwin is a pole-smoking faggot.)
"Patriots in control. Timing is everything."
You forgot the sarcasm tag "/s". Many dupes of the proven fraud QAnon actually believe that crap.
Durham aint scared of shit. Patriots just trying to get the dems to throw their last hail mary before the hammer comes down.
How many throws they need to be given at this point? Russia collusion, impeachment, etc fuck man, thats enough treason, hang them all until theyre dead
My favorite is always "he's just giving them enough rope to hang themselves." At this point, the Deep State has about 32 miles of rope. How much do they need before the hangings start?
lol. Unbelievable, Q dupes have become as delusional as Baghdad Bob.
UPDATE:
"EVENDENCE Surfaces of John Durham Grand Jury" – Team Following Deep State Rabbit Hole Leading to SSCI Effort…. "
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/08/evidence-surfaces-of-john-durham-grand-jury-team-following-deep-state-rabbit-hole-leading-to-ssci-effort/comment-page-3/#comment-8883355
Just more bullshit to keep misleading the hopeful. “Durham is really digging in and following all the angles. Just wait. Boy it’s going to be big!” All BS.
Left has no clue what they know
Leftist cant explain why Q, The biggest leaker of all time hasent been removed from the White House but every deepstate one has!? 🤣 YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE(King Theoden meme)
Underrated comment. Make that a separate post!!
Calling them The Swamp is a massive understatement.
I propose The Toilet.
Cesspool
Start with the state department in its entirety
It didnt start under Obama. Its been happening since atleast Clinton and probably before.
Yep. And that whoreson made political appointments and then converted those offices to "civil service" type protections. Hence the entrenched leftists.
Do not trouble yourself though, there is a solution to the problem. I used to work at a government bureaucracy and they had a simple soultion to "un-fireable" employees. Remove the position, remove the section, or just close down the whole department.
The FBI is busy baiting unstable morons into kidnapping schemes
It's from Axios, it's fake news. Ignore this.
Thanks for pointing that out. It matters a lot where this stuff comes from.
Here is a good update from today.
Evidence Surfaces of John Durham Grand Jury – Team Following Deep State Rabbit Hole Leading to SSCI Effort…. (reviewing an article from the NEW YORKER, of all places.)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/08/evidence-surfaces-of-john-durham-grand-jury-team-following-deep-state-rabbit-hole-leading-to-ssci-effort/comment-page-3/#comment-8883355
Agreed. I don't think Nancy would be pursuing the 25th Amendment nonsense if this was true. She's trying to overshadow news that might be dropping. Sundance at CTH has an interesting article indicating that Durham has empaneled a grand jury over the phony Alfa Bank ping story. This rabbit hole leads to Mark Warner and the SSCI, which played a big part in the Obamagate coverup.
This does seem like a very logical train of thought. She seems desperate in pursuing it.
The idea that Durham is scared that they might go after him is also fake news. He’s not accountable in this situation.
I think reality is proving it to be true
Swamp and Dems outworked the GOP and kept the cowards on their heals with 4 years of bullshit attacks when it was actually them that were at fault. Fucking amazing
When you are fully partnered with the MSM media - you can do anything you want - pay no price what so ever... and never get caught.
This is actually NK and CCP shit, the media literally work on directives from the Democrat Party. Except in fascist countries, it's the ruling party party who runs the media.
get a load of this guy -> all bark, no bite.
Lol, gems are funny
I don't see you out there with a rifle in your hands.
Yes I saw the first line. I also read the rest of it, and your doomer blackpill buck passing meltdown.
Either grab a gun and lead by example, or shut the fuck up.
If you study history, you would know to do things in the right order or bad outcomes happen. So for instance, making sure the farmers can and are growing enough food, making sure the arsenals have the capacity to produce enough weapons, that the standing army/navy is in fighting shape, that their is domestic energy indep production, etc. etc.
You don't be like Rumsfeld's "go to war with the army that you got". No, don't drive thin-skin alum amphib vehicles hundreds of miles into the urban areas or desert and wonder why there's high costs or casualties.
And newsflash, most humans are cowards in all points in history. Very few will put their own lives, wealth, reputation, and that of their family too on the line; which is why like the Signers of the Declaration of Indep that we support those like TRUMP whom are not cowards. Yes there's alot of cowards in the swamp, yes it still needs a whole lot more draining, Rome wasn't built in a day, the swamp in D.C. wont be drained in one either.
MAGA On!
After you sweetie.
Go back to mommy! This isnt thebiden.win
Facts dont care about your feelings, if you're not smart enough to see that the estsblishmrnt GOP was purposely weak and that the swamp is thick on both sides with assholes like Rosenstein, Wray, Haspel considering themselves Republicans, and so much scum that we had to deal with within own party like Ryan flake McCain Romney murkowski and Collins, then you just not worth the time of day.
well it is kind of demoralizing. The swamp won after 4 years........FOUR.
Hence why I stand by my claim that Barr is a deep state inside man.
Ruby Ridge Billy
Been saying this since day one.
Why Trump hired Bush Sr.'s right hand man just blows my fucking mind.
I never understood that. At some point it was changed from an investigation to a report. That should have been the first sign something was rotten
The swamp is deep.
Told you so. "Trust Sessions" 2.0
Yup. Said it on day one. Anyone who thought a guy like Barr, who was Bush Sr.'s right hand man, came out of retirement to put a bunch of his old colleagues in jail was a total sucker. Trump included.
Trust him to do what tho
Not ready by election, so will it be done in the Lame Duck and only if Trump wins?
MY GOD GET GRENEL AS ACTING AG. SICK OF THIS FUCKING SHIT
LIES and more LIES is all that comes from the Deep State Swamp. We The People, ask that JUSTICE be brought onto these TRAITORS. Is that so difficult ?!
I seriously would condemn Trump if he was doing anything that was not just. But these people literally did one of the worst things I have ever seen. the media doesnt fucking care. I sound crazy because I know something that is too complex to explain to my family but it is simply the most fucking important thing that fucking happned in our country and the fucking JUSTICE department wont fucking do the ultimate Justice.
If they get away with it, it will be hard to look at my flag without a bit of sadness...
We all feel the same way fren.
Pretty sure that result is one of their main goals.
The moment Grenell was put in place he would reveal his final swamp creature form out of nowhere. They’re layers deep and laying in wait. President Trump is the only non corrupt person in the entire government.
Fucking put Tucker or Hannity then
Hannity was revealed as comped when he was shut down from talking about Seth Rich. He can’t keep his dick in his pants so he can’t tell the truth. Plus if Hannity were AG he’d have three press conferences a day where he repeats the same thing and then sings along to Florida Georgia Line. Not sure what Tucker would do.
lol yeah im not the biggest fan of Hannity. Hes a fox news loyalist
Hanitty was also having moments of silence on his show to “honor” esteemed jogger, Fentanyl Floyd. Hanitty is a brown-nosing grifter cuck.
Tucker keeps avoiding the problem. I like what he says a lot of the time, but he's a talking head on television.
Nope, he's not swamp.
Got any examples of anything he’s done to put a stop to any swamp activities?
On the off, off chance Trump doesn't win, I think the period between election and inauguration will be a declassification fest by the WH.
Unless Trump personally marches in and starts ripping files out of filing cabinets himself, they aren't going to release shit.
There's a million excuses they can use, and Govt bureaucrat lifers are hard to fire for a reason. They've insulated themselves big time.
We need to clone Grennels, although Ratcliffe has been good. Come to think of it Ratcliffe is also an experienced prosecutor
Grennell just doesnt have a job right now we keep bringing him up
Tom Fitton though would be just as good
Neither is an attorney Ratcliffe is
No, it'll never be done. Their patsy plead guilty to "unwittingly" falsifying documentation.
And full of losers.
Bullshit. Was never ever going to be ready or done.
Don’t gaslight yourselves people. This is just more circus and bread.
It should be done and ready. That's the whole point. Even Trump said so in his interview with Maria. Barr has all the information he needs and won't act. Words from Trumps mouth.
Yeah. Barr should go to prison for aiding and abetting.
Ah, so now we are adopting Liberal policy here...
Look - Trump appointed him. If Barr fails to deliver, we have to be honest and say Trump fucked up. That is not hard to believe when he has fucked up with many appointments, especially AG (Sessions) and FBI (Wray).
Trump failed to look into his past and see 1) He worked for George "King NWO" Bush Sr. and 2) He worked for the CIA. If you were creating a DC swamp creature in a test tube, those would be two main ingredients. Fetal stem cells would be a third.
Trump has done good for this country, but many of his appointments have been utter failures and one gigantic negative of his administration has been swamp appointments to police the swamp.
Unfortunately we arent trying to be honest with ourselves here regarding this obvious fact shouting into our faces for the past four years. One big reason for this is the pervasiveness of the Q larp. Too many here still "trusting the plan" when there was never a grand plan; only a grand plot and it was Obama's.
The only possibility was post election, if that. Seems hard for people to wrap their minds around how difficult it would be to “clean house” when swamp culture has been manifest for decades and decades. It’s the criticism against q, whether true or not: waste years tick tocking super secret internal govt takedown instead of primarying MAGA congressional candidates and cleaning out local and state politics. We have no govts of note in hand, how can we expect 1-2 people at the head of the beast to do anything of note and the rest just fall in line, when they don’t agree?
Exactly! We need to oust and openly disavow Graham and all the other RINOS. We need a new party, MAGA. Completely clean house in every way. Get on school boards, local gov’t, committee...all the fuck the way up!
This! Think about all the shit with the scamdemic and the destruction of people's livelihoods and businesses. The governors played a big role in that, but it's local governments, city councils, county commissioners and mayors who carried out the implementation of it. They're the ones arresting business owners and taking away licenses. They're the ones creating local ordinances that allow police to cite or arrest people for dog muzzles. It's those school boards that are putting masks on little kids and facilitating the destruction of their little minds. Without these minion governments, the head of the snake has no power.
lol then we lose his seat to dems and he senate
Never seen anyone advocate for a RINO. Always a first. We can get a MAGA candidate...it is my thinking that got us Trump.
Yes, because voting for traitors here is so much better than letting the enemy take over somewhere else. They're both shitty options.
GEOTUS need only tweet the names of who he wants in HIS Republican party..he also needs to tweet who needs to Go like he did sessions...GLAD AF WE SENT THAT TRAITOR HOME
Only 1180 days left in the Trump presidency
REEEEEEE
good point pede.
still doesnt hurt to pressure John Durham. Bongino we cant lose him.
You seem like a predictor pede.
Do we get Justice for the Russia hoax from Barr this cycle?
Barr’s dad hired Epstein, he’s born swamp and a tiger doesn’t change its stripes. He worked for George HW Bush. They would be trying to remove Trump no matter what, they’re scum. There will be no justice for Hillary and the like, they’re in charge.
Certainly not Hillary.
They should have stopped reading and started writing - indictments - a long time ago.
Years. Months. Weeks. Days.
I think the more accurate expression is “rules for thee but not for me”
I think it’s naive to assume that laws written by the DC elite would ever be used against them. The person you replied to sought fairness not attention however in DC if you want the “fair” outcome to come to pass, you need to fight harder than the next guy. It appears Barr and Durham were never chosen to fight, they were chosen to delay what we here believe to be long overdue justice.
We shouldn’t be surprised that investigators playing politics are not bringing charges against other investigators playing politics, because both of their “competing” interests are political, they attend the same dinner parties while pretending to be ideological opponents, they have ZERO intention of draining a swamp that brought them power and wealth.
They know that “us” being mostly civil would need to be pushed too hard and too fast to stir up the fervor required to depose them and remove their power. They prefer a slow boil, chip away at individualism and replace it with authoritarianism.
When they do bite more than they can chew, and conservatives take to the streets to demonstrate or take focused aim with the meme cannons, the DC power institutions can quickly and easily malign efforts with potent labeling across the politicians, the news media, and culture/entertainment media.
I would agree if there was a track record, but NOT doing anything is the expected result when you extrapolate from past data.
I would conclude that nobody from the Deep State is going to jail.
Demoralization or not there's 3 1/2 weeks till election and time is running out.Id love to be proven wrong....
This news broke 2 weeks ago. We've already been told the report isn't coming before election so Barr can hopefully kill it if Trump loses. More old news.
This isn’t news though. Did someone actually come out and say this publicly or is it just insider rumor?
Barr has seemed to be one of the biggest swamp creatures in Trump’s admin.
He is quite large too
And he plays the bag pipes.
He came out of retirement to protect the guilty.
How hard must it be to find good people for key positions?
You need to find someone willing to die for their country. The swamp is so vast that the candidate would have a much longer life expectancy in the Marines than when prosecuting corruption in DC.
Easier said than done when the position requires years or decades of work and investment to get to that point.
Look at the judge they tried to assassinate but only got her husband and kid
I think people forget that the AG has to be confirmed by senate. Trump needed to pick someone the RINOs in the senate would OK.
I think if the GOP senate is full-on MAGA, then Trump will appoint whoever he wants.
Some asshat here called me a concern troll for saying I was trying not to be black pilled over this.
Yeah the tardification of using “concern troll” as a censoring mechanism is accepted here, cuz this is a Trump rally.
Simply cheer his picks as awesome....until he fires them. After which you can then trash Barr without being a concern troll, but not until after Trump fires him.
Same with Sessions Mattis and Barr lol. People just don’t understand how deep swamp is. DC voted hilldog 95%
You're not alone. People want to believe but don't understand Washington
95% Hilldawg
Trump just put a dagger in the heart of every Q follower with that interview with Maria yesterday.
Wait, what happened in that interview? I only watched parts of it.
We knew they would try and run out the clock, and they did. I've never been more disgusted with our Government, especially our Intelligence agencies and DOJ. We have a two tiered justice system, with the left and Democrats untouchable and then us who go to jail for process crimes over fictional prosecution.
Don is not a king. His appointments must be confirmed. It's all political give and take.
not unexpected but still FUCKING INFURIATING
With years of tick tock tick tock tick fucking tock...who would expect anything less. Einstein's definition of insanity comes to mind.
I bailed on Q when we were told that a big big big thing was happening Nov 8 last year or the year before. And literally nothing happened that week. If i want vague predictions about things that might not happen ill call a psychic hotline.
You can also call Barr
Yeah. There is no time for anything to happen prior to election day. Everyone in government is going to sit around and wait for the next coup.
There WAS time to get it done. That's why he's making fun of Q-Tards. They helped push for this delay with their complacency campaign.
What exactly did you non-Q people do that the Q followers didn’t do?
Told people to be skeptical
Thank you for your service.
This is where I return the favor from the last 2 years and call you a concern troll. Damn it feels good to be right
We’ll see.
So people are shitting on Q here now?
Lol, what do you mean? Q has been shit on by TD since its inception..its never enjoyed support. Most of TD has always been against it
Yes. Because it's 100% bullshit.
I mod Q and nobody in our movement has their panties in a bunch like you lads do.
Graham's questions to Kavanaugh? Military tribunals. Is ACB confirmed, yet? No? That's where this is going. Not the courts. MILITARY.
How about we make sure it's all clear down range before we fire, mmmk?
tRuST tHE PlAn gOys!!
I know guys! Keep trusting the plan. This is a cheerleading site only happy thoughts allowed.
Indicting people running for election - election interference.
Releasing Durham report - election interference.
Sitting on evidence of corruption that may allow people to make an educated decision - not election interference.
It's not that trump is bad at picking them, it's that the pool is poisoned by the senate confirmation aspect. You can trace most of Obamagate back to the senate (see the reporting by sundance) so they will not appoint anyone that isn't somewhat swampy.
good that someone gets it as well.
Trump knows it is a game. RINOs in the senate pretend to work with Trump in some parts of his agenda, to get their "men" appointed to key positions.
If Trump fully antagonizes RINO senators like Lindsey Graham, then next time Dems launch an impeachment case against him, he is toast.
It is very demoralizing if you think about it. Trump can only hope to slowly chip away at their power, with a very limited timeframe of 2 terms.
As an outsider, I can see that this one downside of the American system of checks and balances, electing one person even if the most powerful position, cannot necessarily change the entire political system.
It didn't all happen at once either. It's decades of rot we are trying to purge. It's going to take at least a decade to do. Maybe two.
You're last paragraph is a feature, not a bug.
the American system of checks and balances does prevent a would-be dictator from abusing their power, that is true. But it also means decades of rot (as one comment said) is going to be harder to clean up.
I think Barr is willing to do the job but he needs the American people to reassure him by having trump win.
You gotta put yourself in his shoes. Best case scenario he comes in with 18 months to an election, needs 9-12 months to put together good cases and that puts him 6 months from an election. If he starts this and trump loses (thanks to covid) it's all over and the revenge will be merciless.
He doesn't care about his life being ruined, he's old and has lived. But his kids and friends are at risk too. So what do you do? You hedge your bets. You don't do anything but prepare to destroy them if trump wins. That's the rational response. You can justify it as "letting the people decide." That's how you live with this self/family preservation decision.
Amen.
trump should have put an "attack dog" in there from the beginning.
Trumps biggest failings of all time is the people he has hired for all these positions. He seriously needs to do better here.
Even IF Trump loses, I don't think our side will just 'take it'.
If trump loses, a whole different set of events gets set in motion.
Lol no fuckin way the current DNC ever takes power again to allow that would to allow the subjugation of our future...its no less than that even if it sounds extreme...nobody can tell me its night when the sky is blue and the fuckin sun is shining...we would be accepting the defeat of the revolution WE STARTED over a decade ago with anti big Gov movements....we as conservatives played our game the RIGHT WAY we seeded the doctrines..we pushed the narratives...we changed the discussions..and we eventually installed an OUTSIDER for our champion...this is HISTORY...TRUMP is our revolution and the reaction from the swamp has been predictable and vicious...we can never take the blue pill and go back to sleep..2016 was not just another election...it was the breaking point...those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable..to give the obama and Clinton administration's back the reigns of power would be to accept that our vote doesn't count and that we are ruled by a secret parallel government that is in no way accountable to our constitutional frame work...at that points its give me liberty...or...
I heard Rush say that Trump thinks he can win people over to his way of thinking, hence some of his choices.
There's nobody good left in Washington. If he picked one of his loyalists he knows from way back, they would never be accepted by the rest of the GOP.
I am not a political expert, so I can be wrong with these things but here's my 2c.
I used to think like "man, Trump is an idiot and wasting it". But I realize from his personality, Trump likes winning, there's no freaking way he is cool with this. A lot of politics must be happening underneath.
Appointments have to be confirmed by senate. A lot of the GOP senators are RINOs. It is a game where they pretend to be on board Trump's agenda and help him out on certain stuff but some stuff like "draining the swamp" is taboo. At the same time, Trump needs the senate to shield himself from repeated impeachment attempts so he needs to be in good graces with them as well.
So Trump is playing a game of chess with Dems, and also a separate game of chess with the RINOs like Lindsey Graham etc.
An example is when Trump nominated Ratcliffe to be DNI. I remember the GOP senators opposing it so Trump was forced to withdraw his nomination. Later on, Trump got Ratcliffe thru as DNI, some political haggling must have occured behind the scenes.
Trump is also one man and no one man knows everything. He has to rely on advisors. The moment he won, those advisors kept close to him and influences his decisions. There is a reason Trump brought his family members along, despite the accusations of nepotism. I won't be surprised if some of Trump's trusted friends e.g. Hannity, turn out to be sleeper agents.
Next, even if Trump manages to get a trusted pick thru confirmation, the swamp is deep and can dig up dirt, money or simply blackmail of family members to corrupt people around him. Notice how many of people who he has been with for some time, suddenly turn around stab him at the back. I think of the deep state like cancer, it spreads and regrows back too.
Upvoted. Your truth matters. Let's call it for what it is. Trump 2020......but some outsider patriots need to come in and help Trump actually clean up the swamp.
You think that's all trump knew about him?
Me too. It's absolutely maddening. But we have to keep energy high to even have a prayer at justice.
You were an American when Bush was President, so you're just as tainted as anyone else who happened to be American and not fixing the problem. Being in Government during a coup doesn't automatically make you a traitor. There's a good chance President Bush Jr. had no fucking clue what was going on.
Why did it take Trump, to turn things around?
Is/Was Trump the ONLY American Patriot?
Is there ANY possibility AG Barr isn't his the same as his own Father?
I think this was always barr's strategy. He'll do the work if the American people re-elect trump. Otherwise he'll just run out the clock and move on.
He's put the ball in our court.
Maybe the FBI is full of cops who were too afraid be patrol officers.
The FBI is full of state police washouts. They are a joke, top to bottom. I have no respect for them.
I hope some glowies read that and take offense to it
Biden's team committed crimes for years...and Durham and Barr think this information isn't needed by voters to make an informed judgement? Time for Trump to go nuclear and release everything ON HIS OWN. Fuck those guys. It needs sunlight PRIOR to the election, otherwise its useless.
Honestly that's probably the way to go. Tell Barr, I want every document on my desk by Monday, no reactions. Then just tweet it all out.
Get sundance in the oval office to direct attention to the most important pieces.
Can’t wait to see what the excuse is after Trump wins. It’ll be hilarious watching them use the Covid “two weeks to finish the report” strategy for four years.
GEOTUS appointments must be approved by the same corrupt swampster senators that need to be investigated, so...
This works just as well for they know Trump will win. Why upset the apple cart?
This is the only possible positive spin. If internal polls are so good that they aren't at all worried about the election changing the outcome of the investigation/prosecutions, then you do this. But if they're telling the truth and they're worried about the investigation turning on them, we're in big trouble.
Trump called this the nightmare scenario. There was no plan to wait til after the election.
He did? When?
Yeah I agree. Im not mad at anyone pissed as fuck right now. Truth is 4 years have been playing defense.
tRuSt ThE pLaN
Will be fun to see the Q larpers timestamp their way out of this one
The plan is to wait 8 years then do nothing right ?
I mod Q and nobody in our movement has their panties in a bunch like you ladies do.
Graham's questions to Kavanaugh? Military tribunals. Is ACB confirmed, yet? No? That's where this is going. Not the courts. MILITARY.
How about we make sure it's all clear down range before we fire, mmmk?
Jesus...
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In essence, yeah. It's clear what happened. And it's clear that if the bureaucracy can so blatantly get away with sedition and so happily declare it so openly with the participation of a controlled, de facto state/Party media, we're totally fucked. The republic is officially over. Been so for a while, but now it's in inescapable fact and we're on an unavoidable trajectory.
This is peak doomer. We have issues, but it is not as bleak as you portray it to be.
Ive heard this too often to not comment. The republic isnt over. Its literally not. If it was they could have easily swooped in and just removed Trump from office or never let him in initially. Burned the constitution and made new laws.
We do have laws, states, a consittution, policies, procedures. These still exist.
The fact no one wants to swallow is that even though we see the “russiagate” “obamagate” “spygate” stuff as being a clear as day crime.
It wasnt a clear as day crime. Thats just it. You have to accept that.
Obama, the clintons , the swamp..... they wrote the laws, they know how to get around them and live within them. These arent dumb people. A mountain of evidence has to be built and its not easy. Especailly since almost none of us are US Law experts.
In addition to needed a ton of evidence thats hard to get, Trump has to navigate public opinion and the normies. Look what happened when the Dems brought a shit case to impeach Trump.... it backfired.
The republic isnt over. If you think it is, then take your money and get out before you end up in a containment work camp.
Am i happy with where things are, no! Do i want justice served for criminals, yes! Am I worried it might not be, sure!
But the flag still stands and we still are winning. If we werent the radicals would just take over, but they havent.
Care to revise that statement?
Nope. There is a legal system in place and Trump is fighting in it.
LOL.
Take your blackpills elsewhere.
Yep. Too many people on here think Trump is Hillary circa 2016, and needs help to win.
Axios?
Lol
Barr made it clear Durham's investigation would lead to no report.
This is disinformation to scare people.
Durham will indict, or he won't. End of story.
Biden isnt going to win so he has nothing to worry about.
I'll bet 80 million ballots that they think he will
Yawn imagine my surprise
Shocked - shocked, I tell you
I never wanted a f-ing report anyway. If that's what this is culminating towards, then just shut the shit show down.
They are banking on it. They hope there won't be a unchained Trump not worried about re-election. One who will wash through DC like a tidal wave of rage.
Hasn't everyone been saying that "Durham doesn't do a report - he just indicts!"
Why am I not surprised?
I call bullshit. I reckon this is a strategic play and intentional fake news; the report will drop in the next 3 weeks in my opinion.
This is to spark NORMIE interest in a report they didn't know existed and will henceforth DEMAND it be released.
With our help of course.
They turned his ability to initialize indictments into submitting a glorified book report.
Just take what he has, no need for a final report
What if all he's got is a suitcase full of shredded Chinese newspapers?
AXIOS??? And who is Howard what's his name?
Yep. This is a hack trying to demoralize the "I want it now or fuck Trump" supporters.
We have a lot of them on here that constantly batch and moan about Barr and Durham because things aren't happening as fast as they want them to.
Not sure why they're not gone.
They are the same people that you lose as friends because you didn't call them back immediately...
You really can't help grabbing gov't by the pussies. Statistically impossible.
infuriating
Why are we trusting an Anxious source?
Great question.
And thus enters the part of me that is opposed to presidential term limits.
How can meaningful change ever be brought about if all of the actors are constantly looking over their shoulders trying to CYA themselves against the possibility of being on the receiving end of the opposition party?
While there are downsides to a "life-long"-esque model, there are some notable upsides as well...
Not an easy nut to crack!
Durham is finally getting to the real monkeys in the wrench works, whom he did not recognize before.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/08/evidence-surfaces-of-john-durham-grand-jury-team-following-deep-state-rabbit-hole-leading-to-ssci-effort/
WHY DO WE NEED A "REPORT"??? REPORTS CAN BE SWAYED BY BIAS. LAW DOESN'T GIVE REPORTS. IT GIVES JAIL TIME.
Time for citizens arrest. We have enough evidence ourselves.
I am going to try to look at this positively rather than be depressed over it. By dropping it right before the election at this point is going to come across as politically motivated and it will be immediately dismissed as such. If it comes later then it has potential to be treated more fairly.
There is also a likely problem Durham/Barr are facing right now, given how late into Trump's 1st term this investigation began. A lot of these deep state coup actors are holding out in cooperating with the investigation in hopes of Biden winning election. They know that if Biden wins they can tell the Durham team to go F themselves because Biden will let them all off and they will get away with it. So, for now, I suspect many are refusing to take deals, flip, cooperate.
When Trump wins Nov. 3rd they are likely going to be pounding down the door to make a deal because at that point they know they are F'd.
So, at this point, our only hope for the future of America is Trump winning. If he doesn't win, in my mind, their coup attempt was essentially a success because they damaged and muddied the water enough to hurt Trump from winning election, and it is going to be a win for the deep state as they show the world that they can get away with anything, including spying on a US Presidential candidate to no repercussions. It just validates in my mind how America as we know it is lost forever if we lose this election. There is literally that much weight behind this election because the deep state is only going to get stronger.
Vote and vote and vote, and get everyone you know to make sure they vote.
"""Politically advantageous""".
Such journalism.
MSM News Media is 100% about 'political optics' -
and certainly not about 'explaining what happened today.'
this smells like fake news and considering the source i would expect it to be so
FOLKS, DO NOT DESPAIR.
I know this is far out, but people are talking about Biden snuffing it out if he wins. Not true.
Trump would still be in office for 2 months, and prosecutions could still happen then.
If they do, then they could be so enraged by the evidence that they immediately IMPEACH THE DEMS.