And I agree with your take - I think John was a shithead at first but he woke up in his later years and become a patriot but was then assassinated because he was a threat because of his fame and the power he wielded from it.
He also had a pretty insane life when you think about him being an orphan, then being in the biggest band ever. I think he was just figuring shit out like any of us have done too.
Yep. Left to Right conversion is common. It's the result of growing and learning. That's why people almost never convert in the other direction. Leftardation is emotional ignorance, and it falls apart when you have the facts.
Should have been expected. IMO. For the same reason we see it from people like Johnny Rotten. You can't be a commie surrounded by an army of conformist worshipers, while at the same time pretending to represent the counter-culture.
When he was a commie, it was controversial. He was a contrarian who didn't want to be a member of the herd.
I agree, people CAN change. You know who DOESNT change? Addicts.
Yoko was still using when John Lennon died. There is NO. WAY. Lennon was clean in 1980. He claims to have finally kicked it in the mid 70s, but Yoko was still using.
I don't buy that he changed his ways, addicts lie as reflexively as they breathe.
Just because he liked Reagan doesn't make him a good guy.
And just because some former-associate scum bag Communists make some claims about someone they no longer knew, didn't mean anything.
I'm sure she's still fucked up.
Only info I have to go on, is his based son, and the things he was recorded saying in his later days, when those Communist junkies were no longer in his life. Things that Communists don't say.
One thing Pedes on this site tend to fail at, is conversion.
Left to Right conversion is common my friend. People almost never shift the other direction, but Left to Right happens all the time. We should be encouraging it.
(I only had to endure a couple days of the Carter administration. If mom had just held it in a minute longer, I would have been born on Reagan's inauguration day)
Yep. F Yoko. That video of John and Chuck Berry rocking and Yoko squalling like a cat in heat... then Chucks reaction. Tells you everything you ever needed to know about that entire relationship.
It is a diary form of writing. All that ‘I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved’ was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically – any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn’t express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women. That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace. Everything’s the opposite. But I sincerely believe in love and peace. I am a violent man who has learned not to be violent and regrets his violence. I will have to be a lot older before I can face in public how I treated women as a youngster.
The only war Hollywood supported was World War 2, yet I can't quite pin down why Hollywood would be so supportive of the efforts against National Socialist Germany but less so against Imperial Japan who actually attacked us. I can't put my finger on it.
The radicals of the 60s and 70s were communists. Their opposition to the Vietnam War was in support of Communist China and their proxies in North Vietnam.
The "peace loving hippies" were the moral shield the radicals hid behind, just like today's radicals hide behind "blm". They crouched behind the girl putting flowers in the barrels of National Guardsmen's guns waiting to attack them with bricks and bombs.
I read the book many lives of john lennon 20 years ago. The shit he did was aweful. Yoko had a $5k day...a DAY heroin addiction and he fucked the concubines constantly. By the mid-70's him and yoko would never even see each other. He wanted nothing to do with his son either and treated his first wife like total trash. All 60's hippies were notorious chauvenists. The kato institute used hippy communes to study game theory. Every single one failed for the exact same reason - the male sat around philosophizin and high while the women who had mouths to feed did all the hard labor. Leftists are FRAUDS. always have been, always will be.
Sure. We can trust Lennon's many Communist associates who weren't in touch with Lennon later in life. I'm sure they based their claims on anonymous sources familiar with Lennon's thinking.
He met Reagan at Monday Night Football, and Reagan charmed him. Lennon's people have talked about how he changed before his death. Big Reagan supporter, and shit all over Carter calling him a phony. etc.
In 1980, to mark Lennon's 40th birthday, Elton John sent him a little verse: 'Imagine six apartments / It isn't hard to do / One is full of fur coats / The other's full of shoes.'
An older friend, the Beatles' former personal assistant Neil Aspinall, once heard Lennon moaning about the costs of running his business empire. 'Imagine no possessions, John,' Aspinall said. Lennon glared back. 'It's only a bloody song,' he said.
Lennon believed nothing of what his lyrics said. He stood for nothing.
I went to Iraq for no fucking reason. We didn't get the oil. What the fuck were we in Vietnam for? Just to fight? John Lennon was a hippie piece of shit. However, I don't appreciate this pro war bullshit. It's different times. It's an all volunteer military now.
If he hated America he wouldn't have moved to New York. He was a 60's hippie dupe from 68 to early 70's, then he saw that was all bullshit.
Did he do some stupid stuff? Yes. Did he hate America - No. Did he wise up? Yes
Quite edifying and sad to see the ignorance in a lot of the comments here. I'm glad we have some young Trump supporters, but you need to educate yourselves.
"Nothing good came out of the 60's". Well, we put a man on the fucking moon, boy-o.
According to George Harrison, the first time Lennon took an acid trip he was dosed without consent and got very angry before they could calm him down. This is consistent with the information showing that all the major counter culture figures were dosed unknowingly, most likely by CIA.
What you say about Lenin (sp? /s) is true, but fuck the Vietnam war. You can hate commies without sending 18 year olds to die in the jungle for no reason. No matter how many subversives might have been undermining the war effort in the west, it doesn't justify them being there in the first place. And him being a hypocrite degenerate doesn't change how terrible and devastating that war ended up being.
Thanks for posting this. Someone else posted some glowing Lennon tribute bullshit several hours ago, like he wasn’t the Prototype SJW. He was a drug-addled pseudo-intellectual, and a leftist revolutionary poser. Preaching peace and love while hitting his wife and abandoning his kid, and he had no loyalty to his friends. He was a good songwriter, but if you made a list of Man’s good qualities, he wouldn’t check a single block. The “Lennon reformed” story is as much a historical revision as the party switch.
More likely that Yoko's family wanted John's share of the millions upon millions of Beatles' money that comes in every year to this day. Mark David Chapman was groomed to assassinate Lennon in a MK Ultra type operation. Yoko gets the cash.
But he was murdered because he was breaking their conditioning and beginning to see the truth. If he had broken through he would brought many with him and the left could not allow that to happen.
I never understood the Beatles thing outside of Boomer nostalgia hardons. There are better avante garde art bands, better psychedelic rock bands, better pop song writers, better everything. The Beatles just happened to hook the American public at a time when domestic rock had become kind of stale, like Japanese import cars in the early 80's
Son is Based...
So was John. Big Reagan supporter. Shit all over Carter. He reformed before his death.
This article changed my tune on him:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/john-lennon-80-one-man-against-deep-state-monster
And I agree with your take - I think John was a shithead at first but he woke up in his later years and become a patriot but was then assassinated because he was a threat because of his fame and the power he wielded from it.
He also had a pretty insane life when you think about him being an orphan, then being in the biggest band ever. I think he was just figuring shit out like any of us have done too.
Yep. Left to Right conversion is common. It's the result of growing and learning. That's why people almost never convert in the other direction. Leftardation is emotional ignorance, and it falls apart when you have the facts.
Cue the...Teddy Roosevelt was it? quote about "to enrage a conservative tell him lies, to enrage a liberal tell him the truth."
Wasn’t Roosevelt, just another anon.
Ha really? I've been bamboozled on the internet of all places
Ive read this theory and that him turning conservative was why he was assassinated... cant have the most famous beetle becoming a republican....
Should have been expected. IMO. For the same reason we see it from people like Johnny Rotten. You can't be a commie surrounded by an army of conformist worshipers, while at the same time pretending to represent the counter-culture.
When he was a commie, it was controversial. He was a contrarian who didn't want to be a member of the herd.
I did not know. Thanks for that.
He was still a fucking dirtbag heroin addict that abused his wife while preaching his commie peace bullshit.
He abandoned his first wife and son and was habitually unfaithful to her before he did.
Fuck Lennon.
People can change.
I'm not in anyone's cult looking to burn witches.
F' Yoko.
I agree, people CAN change. You know who DOESNT change? Addicts.
Yoko was still using when John Lennon died. There is NO. WAY. Lennon was clean in 1980. He claims to have finally kicked it in the mid 70s, but Yoko was still using.
I don't buy that he changed his ways, addicts lie as reflexively as they breathe.
Just because he liked Reagan doesn't make him a good guy.
And just because some former-associate scum bag Communists make some claims about someone they no longer knew, didn't mean anything.
I'm sure she's still fucked up.
Only info I have to go on, is his based son, and the things he was recorded saying in his later days, when those Communist junkies were no longer in his life. Things that Communists don't say.
eh maybe you're right, I certainly didn't know him, he was shot when I was a little kid.
PS
One thing Pedes on this site tend to fail at, is conversion.
Left to Right conversion is common my friend. People almost never shift the other direction, but Left to Right happens all the time. We should be encouraging it.
A few days before I was born.
(I only had to endure a couple days of the Carter administration. If mom had just held it in a minute longer, I would have been born on Reagan's inauguration day)
Addicts can change. I know a number of them personally.
Addicts that actually quit, yes. Absolutely.
At that point they are no longer addicts, so...
They're always addicts. The urge never goes away for the vast majority. They just learn to push it out of the way.
We are all addicts, just not to chemicals.
Yep. F Yoko. That video of John and Chuck Berry rocking and Yoko squalling like a cat in heat... then Chucks reaction. Tells you everything you ever needed to know about that entire relationship.
Biggest cringe in music history. And I like to think that moment was enlightening for John Lennon. He was relieved that they cut her mic off.
He was cruel to his women. He beat them and kept them apart from the things that they loved.
He was mean, but he changed his scene and did the best he could.
You have to admit... it's getting better.
Cant get much worse
Yes! I admit it's getting better (a little better) all the time.
He said that was an auto-biographical statement: https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/getting-better/
But after this he abused Yoko for years.
Yet still not enough to beat the retardation out of her. Shame.
He’s changing his scene and doing the best that he can 🎵
They don't give a shit about the poor, they just hate the rich.
I like that statement.
Notice the only successful anti war efforts were against wars with communism.
The only war Hollywood supported was World War 2, yet I can't quite pin down why Hollywood would be so supportive of the efforts against National Socialist Germany but less so against Imperial Japan who actually attacked us. I can't put my finger on it.
The radicals of the 60s and 70s were communists. Their opposition to the Vietnam War was in support of Communist China and their proxies in North Vietnam.
The "peace loving hippies" were the moral shield the radicals hid behind, just like today's radicals hide behind "blm". They crouched behind the girl putting flowers in the barrels of National Guardsmen's guns waiting to attack them with bricks and bombs.
Most of the wars are sham. Even WW2 was not our fight but the globalists needed it.
I read the book many lives of john lennon 20 years ago. The shit he did was aweful. Yoko had a $5k day...a DAY heroin addiction and he fucked the concubines constantly. By the mid-70's him and yoko would never even see each other. He wanted nothing to do with his son either and treated his first wife like total trash. All 60's hippies were notorious chauvenists. The kato institute used hippy communes to study game theory. Every single one failed for the exact same reason - the male sat around philosophizin and high while the women who had mouths to feed did all the hard labor. Leftists are FRAUDS. always have been, always will be.
As bad as Yoko is, she was better than Lennon.
Nope. Lennon was actually based.
He was reformed before he died. Big Reagan supporter. Talked shit about socialism and Carter.
Nope. Facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEbAYE9QUTQ&t
Sure. We can trust Lennon's many Communist associates who weren't in touch with Lennon later in life. I'm sure they based their claims on anonymous sources familiar with Lennon's thinking.
Have you got any info/links on this?
Posted a clip, got no love because he's still known as king commie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoC83orA4ys&t
He met Reagan at Monday Night Football, and Reagan charmed him. Lennon's people have talked about how he changed before his death. Big Reagan supporter, and shit all over Carter calling him a phony. etc.
Only good commie is a dead one
Fuck the Vietnam War.
Lennon believed nothing of what his lyrics said. He stood for nothing.
I went to Iraq for no fucking reason. We didn't get the oil. What the fuck were we in Vietnam for? Just to fight? John Lennon was a hippie piece of shit. However, I don't appreciate this pro war bullshit. It's different times. It's an all volunteer military now.
If he hated America he wouldn't have moved to New York. He was a 60's hippie dupe from 68 to early 70's, then he saw that was all bullshit.
Did he do some stupid stuff? Yes. Did he hate America - No. Did he wise up? Yes
Quite edifying and sad to see the ignorance in a lot of the comments here. I'm glad we have some young Trump supporters, but you need to educate yourselves.
"Nothing good came out of the 60's". Well, we put a man on the fucking moon, boy-o.
I’m Buzz Aldrin, second man on the moon. Neil before me.
Greatness!!!
According to George Harrison, the first time Lennon took an acid trip he was dosed without consent and got very angry before they could calm him down. This is consistent with the information showing that all the major counter culture figures were dosed unknowingly, most likely by CIA.
That is a great picture I've never seen before. He was such a tool
Straight trash with a faggy voice.
You know how I know you've never heard his version of Money, Dizzy Miss Lizzie, Twist and Shout, Revolution, etc etc etc?
Don't opine upon subjects where you are ignorant. Not a good look at all.
Beatles always were soy boys. give up, bro.
Damn, you're dumb as a box of rocks.
What you say about Lenin (sp? /s) is true, but fuck the Vietnam war. You can hate commies without sending 18 year olds to die in the jungle for no reason. No matter how many subversives might have been undermining the war effort in the west, it doesn't justify them being there in the first place. And him being a hypocrite degenerate doesn't change how terrible and devastating that war ended up being.
Didn't he beat his women?
His son is awesome. We love you, Lennon Jr.!
What was his big move in order to change the system? Lay in bed and do drugs all day long.....
I feel sorry for the maid. I bet that room smelled like shit.
I love her singing . She has gotten better with age.....reminds me of my first wife...
Do you know why you can't go to the bathroom during a Beatles concert?
Because there is no John.
I did a parody of this about two weeks ago.
The Vietnam War was not a smart move. Just like getting involved in the ME. Lennon wasn't some crazy leftist. He didn't like war. Who does?
When he was shot I laughed and said it's about fucking time! Unfortunately his screeching harpie was not there.
Thanks for posting this. Someone else posted some glowing Lennon tribute bullshit several hours ago, like he wasn’t the Prototype SJW. He was a drug-addled pseudo-intellectual, and a leftist revolutionary poser. Preaching peace and love while hitting his wife and abandoning his kid, and he had no loyalty to his friends. He was a good songwriter, but if you made a list of Man’s good qualities, he wouldn’t check a single block. The “Lennon reformed” story is as much a historical revision as the party switch.
Is that Hazel?
I can literally see the virtual drool in this thread. lol!
Nah OP John Lennon was actually based.
yoko aborted the beatles
He beat the hell out of women too
More likely that Yoko's family wanted John's share of the millions upon millions of Beatles' money that comes in every year to this day. Mark David Chapman was groomed to assassinate Lennon in a MK Ultra type operation. Yoko gets the cash.
The birth of woke, even his son is like yo wtf?
I always have to link this Bill Burr rant on yoko ono whenever the topic comes up
NSFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4K07Kz7M8Q
But he was murdered because he was breaking their conditioning and beginning to see the truth. If he had broken through he would brought many with him and the left could not allow that to happen.
John was a full on capitalist. He just did this shit so dumbfucks would buy his albums.
He had mansions and cars galore.
Same with Bob Dylan. He asked to meet Hurrican Carter behind a cell to make it appear he was being treated worse.
Woah there brother, slow your roll
But the celebritie whos music I've listened too when I was a kid can't be a commie that would make me wrong.
In all seriousness just own up to it, admit you like his music and admit hes exactly like every other artist these days.
The man wrote the ideological anthem for the left.
You are being downvoted by shills.
Just people who dont pay attention to the lyrics of "imagine" when they sing along to it. I never said liking him was not allowed 😅
Beatles were overrated. Always have been.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoC83orA4ys&t
Mark Chapman's only mistake was not going into the building and finishing the job with Yoko.
I've always been a Boy George fan. I don't really care about music. Just gay-ness.
The Rolling Stones had more soul, The Who had more artistic creativity
I never understood the Beatles thing outside of Boomer nostalgia hardons. There are better avante garde art bands, better psychedelic rock bands, better pop song writers, better everything. The Beatles just happened to hook the American public at a time when domestic rock had become kind of stale, like Japanese import cars in the early 80's
No, they didn't do it first, they did first popularly and were pushed hard by mainstream media
Electric Light Orchestra took innovation by the Beatles and brought it into a new era while also making some of the catchiest songs ever recorded.
The 60's produced nothing of worth.
Except the moon landing.
Muscle cars