LOL that's just Tim trying to appear "fair and balanced" by criticizing Trump occasionally.
Next week he'll brag in his unrelated videos about how he criticized Trump over the white house rallies just the other day, therefore "Look at me, I'm a fair and balanced centrist!"
He tries to appear to be a centrist because he thinks it improves his credibility. Except contrivances like this make him look even less credible. Everyone can see what he's doing. He's contorting himself to try and seem like a non-Trump supporter, when he's clearly a Trump supporter.
Agreed, it is called intellectual honesty. If you go into an argument with the right answer without listening to the other side, you aren't being honest with yourself.
Also accusing Tim of arguing in bad faith completely destroys any base for discourse.
I believe Tim's political journey as we've witnessed it. I know many people who experienced pretty much the same. I was an apolitcal "borders are just imaginary lines man" - type of idiot some years ago.
Hijacking this comment to tell everyone to follow "Tim in Vegas" (the commenter in the screenie) if you still have the heart to fight on Twitter. He is a good guy.
Likewise! Class of '98 here and I had the privilege of getting red pilled in my adolescence while watching Clinton/Gore fuck things up during our growing years.
I mean, I was a pretty retarded liberal in college, but the "no borders" nonsense was so insane it forced me to reevaluate my political leanings. I just don't see how the average person can rationalize it.
I don't see how that makes any sense. You said if you go into an argument WITH THE RIGHT ANSWER. If you have the right answer, why do you have to listen to the other side in order to qualify as "honest"? I'm sure you've got some reason why it makes sense, but that reason probably makes as little sense as your original comment.
Beyond what u/PM_ME_UR_YARD_GIRL said, getting in an argument with the right answer and a way to argue for it, and ways to argue around or against the other side's arguments is a great way to convince onlookers.
Golden rule of debating a leftist: don't, because you won't change his or her mind. Exception of the Golden rule: if you have a crowd, your goal becomes to convince the crowd, and you can engage.
I do not think so. I have far more often seen intellectual honesty used to point out the massive hypocrisy of the left than by the left to attack those capable of using logic.
Intellectual honesty or intellectual integrity, just like journalistic integrity, or historical literacy and/or integrity, are all very real terms, and things that the right posses and are able to call out the left on for lacking
Ben Shapiro is definitely hedging his bets. Tim is simply saying trump will win a normal election but he acknowledges the dems are cheating. He just doesn't know if the cheating will give Biden the edge he needs.
Yeah, that's way too much thinking for Timmy boy. He's just a professional fence sitter, that's his gig.
Watch if someone else brings up how some president 100 years ago said something along the lines of "nobody should host any parties at all here" and he'll reply with "oh, that's a good point actually".
It's the easiest thing to do. Agree with everyone that swings one way or the other and call it a day.
Seriously. I think that if somehow Donald Trump were kicked in the head and went full on Marxist in Term 2, we'd be the first ones calling for his head on a pike.
It's not some immutable quality that he would retain if his actions were different, it is specifically all the actions he does.
He's not a politician so him selling out isn't really a bad thing. Ethically unsound, primarily to his fans, but if he didn't do this he wouldn't have many fans left since he'd be demonetized and broke with no show.
He is a classic liberal that leans pretty far left but loves the US because he has first hand experience at how much closer to perfection we are than the rest of the globe. He is rationally choosing to compromise his knee jerk reactionary response to openly risk his career by publicly advocating to vote for, in his view, an imperfect candidate as a defensive measure.
Not sure why that deserves ridicule or attacks from our side.
You'd think he walked on water the way some around here constantly suck his dick. He's just a businessman cashing in on the latest counterculture trend.
What are you talking about? He gets crapped on all the time here. He is what he is, a milquetoast fence-sitter and people just need to accept that he isn't a conservative, just a moderate who supports Trump but wants to keep some of his liberal base placated.
Yeah, I like watching Tim, but he’s still a liberal. I haven’t forgotten all the months he spent praising tulsi and Yang. He claims he doesn’t like them now because became “part of the establishment”. I’m sitting here thinking “not only have they been part of the establishment this whole time, they also support a lot of the things you rant against every day”.
Tim still supports abortion, tentatively supports UBI, and other liberal causes. But as long as he’s not praising those things, I can watch his videos no problem.
I'm Asian but I never liked Yang. I was willing to listen and see what he was all about but hes a huge piece of shit that shits on Trump any chance he gets so fuck that guy.
I’ve been conservative for my entire life (late 20s.) It’s wild to have experienced being establishment and becoming counterculture when you never politically moved.
Heck I moved slightly left during the last election cycle because being the counter culture let me see how easily things I supported could be turned against me. I'm still not left leaning in the least.
But whatever the left has become, it's beyond insane.
He's a good guy, he's a liberal on a lot of stuff, but he's rational. The tweet above is an example of how he thinks. That first bit about him working about the norms of holding rallies at the white house, that's him being honest, that stuff worries him. But you throw him a rationalization that follows logic, like the guy at the bottom did, and Tim doesn't have a problem saying, oh your right, I wlmighr be wrong here. He's a good guy over all. Check it his podcast, Timcast. It's long but with a listen he had based people on a lot, rational thinkers as well.
He's voting Trump and he's said so a gazillion times on his youtube videos. He also interrogated Twatter's Jack Dorshit and his satanist lawyer on JRE.
Its the "people house" Tim. If the president wants to have the people there that is his choice. Its not like he gave them all bricks of gold, he gave them a speech.
Don't recall which president it was, but one had like an open house party for everyone in the white house didn't they?
Edit: It was Andrew Jackson, I'm not surprised.
I know muh opinion is probably unpopular to some but the pool boy still hasn't convinced me he's 100% MAGA. Bandwagoner, yes. And his "aaaaacccctualllly" statements don't help his latest stance.
Some just can't come around and I get it. I'll never turn down any support or switcherooo but I honestly feel this guy leans toward whatever sells his channel more than he leans toward grassroots support for Trump.
Downvote my statements or whatever, I don't care at all. When Poo L shows he'll stand in line like I will for as long as it takes, I'll start hanging out with watching his shows more. In the meantime, I feel he's trying to play both sides and I don't like this kinda behavior.
Tim is very clear that he thinks of himself as a liberal. We're the ones who claim he's a closet conservative.
The thing I like about him is he is intellectually honest. Most of his videos are just him thinking out loud. He also seems to be willing to change his position when he hears a reasonable argument.
Anyway. I like him for what he is. Id rather listen to him than Ben shapiro any day.
Tim spends 8 hours a day on the internet, then does a podcast about what he found.
Imagine spending 8 hours per day watching trump, 40+ hours per week, and you still don't get it. That is how insanely stupid Tim Pool is.
I have a full time job and shitpost on the side. I realized what trump was in 2015. Beanie Boy is still struggling, how anyone can listen to him is beyond words. He is a deft and slow as if comes.
I think you should dial it back a little bit. We don't need people to become hardcore conservatives right away. Tim has a massive audience of impressionable voters and he consistently exposes the fake news. He's gradually redpilling thousands while staying true to his brand. If you listen to him he is more unapologetic for supporting Trump as time goes on. Unbrainwashing people effectively and permanently takes time.
Stop watching this guy and turn on Rush. Hes just out there to make money. He spends 30 minutes 2 days later basically reading a TD post that you can read in 2 minutes and move on.
Hes a fraud like Ben Shapiro, the only difference is his wife isn't a doctor.
I wish he'd accept that if a politician talks like a politician, they'll act like a politician. We elected Trump because we're sick of the politicians.
Tim is annoying sometimes. He's like that guy who agrees with almost everything Trump does, but then constantly says "He isn't perfect. He does things I don't like you know!" as if that's some original bit of insight.
If he's still learning there isn't a bus short enough for him. How much more does one need to see? Tim's not some normy who doesn't pay attention to politics; this is his livelihood.
I remember when Obama had a party and the press covering it, laughed with glee when Paul McCartney said that George W. Bush and the whole family were stupid illiterates. Laura Bush holds a Master's degree in Library Science and was instrumental in putting literacy programs all over the U.S. I don't really care about the Bush family. It's more that the left laughed and guffawed over ridiculing the entire Bush family about being illiterate when this has been the penultimate Bush family initiative for generations.
I love Tim!! Listen to him everyday. He’s good to share with leftists because I can say “he freely criticizes Trump and was a part of the Occupy movement”. That really gets their interest going.
This isn't Tim swallowing a red pill. Tim was red pilled a long time ago when his MSM employers asked him to be dishonest. This is Tim being consistently objective, acknowledging reason, conceding a well made point and not letting ego and bias get in the way of his thought processes. We could all benefit from Tim's example.
hahahahahahahaha, jfc, some of you fellow pedes are dumb as fuck. please, search my posts, find anything that proves this. search r/retarded, same name.
For about 60 years, the White House being open to everyone was the norm. Started with Andrew Jackson and his 20,000 people and a giant block of cheese party and continued into the 1880s.
Tim Pool is not a friendly. He may be right now... but this guy wanted Yang as president just a few months ago.. and he's a total commie. So Tim may be friendly now... but he's a Liberal and hates Trump.. because he acts like an American instead of some elite snob.
Who says how the president should act? Personally... I want a normal guy in the white house. Fuck a fake politician.
He's a former Occupy guy who then slid down the slope into becoming a dedicated fence sitter to try and make an excuse he wasn't becoming an adult.
He's the crab-in-a-bucket redpill. He won't admit his views have/are changing until he generally gains more support in that regard. But in a way this makes him more effective, as he still has to try.
Compare with Rubin who is more of the typical love-bomb convert. Take part of a redpill and just see the Right is not insane and then be too eager taking more redpills.
LOL that's just Tim trying to appear "fair and balanced" by criticizing Trump occasionally.
Next week he'll brag in his unrelated videos about how he criticized Trump over the white house rallies just the other day, therefore "Look at me, I'm a fair and balanced centrist!"
He tries to appear to be a centrist because he thinks it improves his credibility. Except contrivances like this make him look even less credible. Everyone can see what he's doing. He's contorting himself to try and seem like a non-Trump supporter, when he's clearly a Trump supporter.
I think you're trying to read too much and too cynically into it.
Agreed, it is called intellectual honesty. If you go into an argument with the right answer without listening to the other side, you aren't being honest with yourself.
Also accusing Tim of arguing in bad faith completely destroys any base for discourse.
I believe Tim's political journey as we've witnessed it. I know many people who experienced pretty much the same. I was an apolitcal "borders are just imaginary lines man" - type of idiot some years ago.
Hijacking this comment to tell everyone to follow "Tim in Vegas" (the commenter in the screenie) if you still have the heart to fight on Twitter. He is a good guy.
We all were. The old saying.. if you're not liberal at 20 you're heartless..
Not conservative by 30 you're brainless.
I was heartless.
My senior quote in my high school yearbook was to build a wall and I graduated in 1997.
I'm from Ohio in the rust belt. Hell it took 8 years to get my mother to switch lol
Likewise! Class of '98 here and I had the privilege of getting red pilled in my adolescence while watching Clinton/Gore fuck things up during our growing years.
Also graduated ’97.👍
I mean, I was a pretty retarded liberal in college, but the "no borders" nonsense was so insane it forced me to reevaluate my political leanings. I just don't see how the average person can rationalize it.
I don't see how that makes any sense. You said if you go into an argument WITH THE RIGHT ANSWER. If you have the right answer, why do you have to listen to the other side in order to qualify as "honest"? I'm sure you've got some reason why it makes sense, but that reason probably makes as little sense as your original comment.
Beyond what u/PM_ME_UR_YARD_GIRL said, getting in an argument with the right answer and a way to argue for it, and ways to argue around or against the other side's arguments is a great way to convince onlookers.
Golden rule of debating a leftist: don't, because you won't change his or her mind. Exception of the Golden rule: if you have a crowd, your goal becomes to convince the crowd, and you can engage.
"Intellectual honesty" is a phrase made up by leftists and is absolutely nonsensical. Please stop using it.
I do not think so. I have far more often seen intellectual honesty used to point out the massive hypocrisy of the left than by the left to attack those capable of using logic.
Intellectual honesty or intellectual integrity, just like journalistic integrity, or historical literacy and/or integrity, are all very real terms, and things that the right posses and are able to call out the left on for lacking
Ben Shapiro is definitely hedging his bets. Tim is simply saying trump will win a normal election but he acknowledges the dems are cheating. He just doesn't know if the cheating will give Biden the edge he needs.
Biggest cuck piece of shit award goes to Ben Shapiro. Fuck that grifter.
He'd switch to Bernie in a heartbeat.
I don't know, friend. I posted above before I read further down and I see that I feel pretty much the same way as u/Ham_Sandwich77.
Yeah, that's way too much thinking for Timmy boy. He's just a professional fence sitter, that's his gig.
Watch if someone else brings up how some president 100 years ago said something along the lines of "nobody should host any parties at all here" and he'll reply with "oh, that's a good point actually".
It's the easiest thing to do. Agree with everyone that swings one way or the other and call it a day.
Seriously. I think that if somehow Donald Trump were kicked in the head and went full on Marxist in Term 2, we'd be the first ones calling for his head on a pike.
It's not some immutable quality that he would retain if his actions were different, it is specifically all the actions he does.
Well considering the left is going into histrionics calling him the "normie to 4chan pipeline" he must be doing something right.
His centrist appearance is what many people g set drawn in and the red pilled because of.
Well, his videos are still monetized on YouTube, so I guess the centrist approach is working.
exactly. if it's an act it's an act for youtube's gatekeepers.
He's a commentator/entertainer, so yes.
He's not a politician so him selling out isn't really a bad thing. Ethically unsound, primarily to his fans, but if he didn't do this he wouldn't have many fans left since he'd be demonetized and broke with no show.
it is. but how can you red pill anyone if you've been deplatformed? i like tim so i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. i'm likely wrong :)
Never heard that term before! Trump-curious. Gonna steal that one if you don't mind. LOL
He is a classic liberal that leans pretty far left but loves the US because he has first hand experience at how much closer to perfection we are than the rest of the globe. He is rationally choosing to compromise his knee jerk reactionary response to openly risk his career by publicly advocating to vote for, in his view, an imperfect candidate as a defensive measure.
Not sure why that deserves ridicule or attacks from our side.
I see him on here a lot. Is he influential at all?
You'd think he walked on water the way some around here constantly suck his dick. He's just a businessman cashing in on the latest counterculture trend.
What are you talking about? He gets crapped on all the time here. He is what he is, a milquetoast fence-sitter and people just need to accept that he isn't a conservative, just a moderate who supports Trump but wants to keep some of his liberal base placated.
Yeah, I like watching Tim, but he’s still a liberal. I haven’t forgotten all the months he spent praising tulsi and Yang. He claims he doesn’t like them now because became “part of the establishment”. I’m sitting here thinking “not only have they been part of the establishment this whole time, they also support a lot of the things you rant against every day”.
Tim still supports abortion, tentatively supports UBI, and other liberal causes. But as long as he’s not praising those things, I can watch his videos no problem.
I'm Asian but I never liked Yang. I was willing to listen and see what he was all about but hes a huge piece of shit that shits on Trump any chance he gets so fuck that guy.
He actually still likes tulsi.
I’ve been conservative for my entire life (late 20s.) It’s wild to have experienced being establishment and becoming counterculture when you never politically moved.
Heck I moved slightly left during the last election cycle because being the counter culture let me see how easily things I supported could be turned against me. I'm still not left leaning in the least.
But whatever the left has become, it's beyond insane.
In the words of Uncle Hotep, "It's Grifting Season"
POTUS pinned a video on twitter and YouTube of a black guy thanking Tim Pool for redpilling him. So he’s not irrelevant by any means.
He's a good guy, he's a liberal on a lot of stuff, but he's rational. The tweet above is an example of how he thinks. That first bit about him working about the norms of holding rallies at the white house, that's him being honest, that stuff worries him. But you throw him a rationalization that follows logic, like the guy at the bottom did, and Tim doesn't have a problem saying, oh your right, I wlmighr be wrong here. He's a good guy over all. Check it his podcast, Timcast. It's long but with a listen he had based people on a lot, rational thinkers as well.
He's voting Trump and he's said so a gazillion times on his youtube videos. He also interrogated Twatter's Jack Dorshit and his satanist lawyer on JRE.
Its the "people house" Tim. If the president wants to have the people there that is his choice. Its not like he gave them all bricks of gold, he gave them a speech.
President's used to hold open to the public picnics on the white house lawn all the time back in the day.
Don't recall which president it was, but one had like an open house party for everyone in the white house didn't they? Edit: It was Andrew Jackson, I'm not surprised.
Who had the big ass whee of cheese in the front room for all to take a slice?
Yes I believe that's the context!
I know muh opinion is probably unpopular to some but the pool boy still hasn't convinced me he's 100% MAGA. Bandwagoner, yes. And his "aaaaacccctualllly" statements don't help his latest stance.
Some just can't come around and I get it. I'll never turn down any support or switcherooo but I honestly feel this guy leans toward whatever sells his channel more than he leans toward grassroots support for Trump.
Downvote my statements or whatever, I don't care at all. When Poo L shows he'll stand in line like I will for as long as it takes, I'll start hanging out with watching his shows more. In the meantime, I feel he's trying to play both sides and I don't like this kinda behavior.
Tim is very clear that he thinks of himself as a liberal. We're the ones who claim he's a closet conservative.
The thing I like about him is he is intellectually honest. Most of his videos are just him thinking out loud. He also seems to be willing to change his position when he hears a reasonable argument.
Anyway. I like him for what he is. Id rather listen to him than Ben shapiro any day.
Shapiro is least impressive compared to Pool because he knows better and still tries to play alternate sides.
Tim spends 8 hours a day on the internet, then does a podcast about what he found.
Imagine spending 8 hours per day watching trump, 40+ hours per week, and you still don't get it. That is how insanely stupid Tim Pool is.
I have a full time job and shitpost on the side. I realized what trump was in 2015. Beanie Boy is still struggling, how anyone can listen to him is beyond words. He is a deft and slow as if comes.
I think you should dial it back a little bit. We don't need people to become hardcore conservatives right away. Tim has a massive audience of impressionable voters and he consistently exposes the fake news. He's gradually redpilling thousands while staying true to his brand. If you listen to him he is more unapologetic for supporting Trump as time goes on. Unbrainwashing people effectively and permanently takes time.
Stop watching this guy and turn on Rush. Hes just out there to make money. He spends 30 minutes 2 days later basically reading a TD post that you can read in 2 minutes and move on.
Hes a fraud like Ben Shapiro, the only difference is his wife isn't a doctor.
Does he also have a sister with giant milkbags?
Lol, Khazar Milkers
Did he actually tweet that?
God i wish I was him
You see his sister post here the other day? The picture of her triggering liberals? They are conditioning us to accept her next when Ben is done.
Ben is friends with Zuckerburg and has private meetings with him, hes the controlled opposition.
War room pandemic with Stephen Bannon
Dan Bongino show
Stefan Molyneaux
Colin Flaherty podcast
I wish he'd accept that if a politician talks like a politician, they'll act like a politician. We elected Trump because we're sick of the politicians.
Open wide Tim, here comes the Redpilltruck!
Tim is such a fucking cock gobbler.
Dim Tool
Erosion of norms. 🤡🌎
Tim is annoying sometimes. He's like that guy who agrees with almost everything Trump does, but then constantly says "He isn't perfect. He does things I don't like you know!" as if that's some original bit of insight.
He can learn, good for him.
obummer hot dog parties at the WH and they mad at this????
He needs to wear a MAGA beanie in election day and election day only.
His impressions should be considered abuse.
His analogies are effective in causing confusion and paralysis.
He does a decent job of rounding him news stories and tries to give a non biased view.
He appears to love being called Little Timmy.
I can't understand how someone can be so lucid yet groggy at the same time.
Gotta get the leftist spin on the news somehow... without resorting to MSM.
It IS a good point.
Even if it all is an act, it's refreshing to see someone acknowledge a convincing counter-argument in a twitter debate.
I said it today watching live. If that was Obama up there the people in the crowd would have all paid to be there and he expecting favors.
Keep dropping red pills Pedes, only a little over three weeks to go.
"Look, man. I don't know what to tell you. But check this out. Civil war. But I could be wrong. I'll leave it there." - Tim Pool
Yeah, like Clinton renting out the Lincoln bedroom.
I like Tim, but he feels like he goes out of his way to find reasons to just bitch about Trump.
Actually? So surprised someone could exercise critical thinking skills to arrive at a conclusion different to anything you imagined? Fuck off cunt
He's still learning. I'll cut him a break here and there.
If he's still learning there isn't a bus short enough for him. How much more does one need to see? Tim's not some normy who doesn't pay attention to politics; this is his livelihood.
Being authentic doesn't mean being right - it means allowing what is truly right to convince you based on its own merit when it comes along.
Tim is better than 99% of media. CMV.
I do like how he's willing to concede a point.
I remember when Obama had a party and the press covering it, laughed with glee when Paul McCartney said that George W. Bush and the whole family were stupid illiterates. Laura Bush holds a Master's degree in Library Science and was instrumental in putting literacy programs all over the U.S. I don't really care about the Bush family. It's more that the left laughed and guffawed over ridiculing the entire Bush family about being illiterate when this has been the penultimate Bush family initiative for generations.
We love our open minded independent reporters!!!
The red pilling of Tim Pool is fun to watch.
I love Tim!! Listen to him everyday. He’s good to share with leftists because I can say “he freely criticizes Trump and was a part of the Occupy movement”. That really gets their interest going.
Zero percent chance he votes for Biden though.
BUT...
BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU NAZIS.
WHAT IS THIS "PERSUASION" THINGY YOU'RE DOING?!
DOES THIS HELP WIN ELECTIONS?
This isn't Tim swallowing a red pill. Tim was red pilled a long time ago when his MSM employers asked him to be dishonest. This is Tim being consistently objective, acknowledging reason, conceding a well made point and not letting ego and bias get in the way of his thought processes. We could all benefit from Tim's example.
Found Tim Pool's TD account
hahahahahahahaha, jfc, some of you fellow pedes are dumb as fuck. please, search my posts, find anything that proves this. search r/retarded, same name.
I was being sarcastic. Chill out
Fair enough, fuck you Adam.
That really is a very good point
Do you think Tim is ever going to get those splinters out of his colon from sitting on the fence? He is voting for Trump, but he is not a pede.
TP is a grifter. This site over values his opinion way too much.
Tim doing what he does best. Pandering to his leftist base.
DIDN'T HE HAVE COVID TIM?!
AREN'T WE SUPPOSED TO BE STAYING HOME?!
Fucking hypocrite.
"Nice clock bomb, Ahmed! Come to the white house!" The Dems have absolutely nothing to stand on.
For about 60 years, the White House being open to everyone was the norm. Started with Andrew Jackson and his 20,000 people and a giant block of cheese party and continued into the 1880s.
To be fair the Democrats did hold enormous Klan rallies at the White House.
Tim Pool is not a friendly. He may be right now... but this guy wanted Yang as president just a few months ago.. and he's a total commie. So Tim may be friendly now... but he's a Liberal and hates Trump.. because he acts like an American instead of some elite snob.
Who says how the president should act? Personally... I want a normal guy in the white house. Fuck a fake politician.
This is why I’m like Tim. He can actually contemplate an opposing idea
He's a former Occupy guy who then slid down the slope into becoming a dedicated fence sitter to try and make an excuse he wasn't becoming an adult.
He's the crab-in-a-bucket redpill. He won't admit his views have/are changing until he generally gains more support in that regard. But in a way this makes him more effective, as he still has to try.
Compare with Rubin who is more of the typical love-bomb convert. Take part of a redpill and just see the Right is not insane and then be too eager taking more redpills.