It would be nice to have a simple required test on basic history with free materials / books as well. There are too many ignorant citizens uneducated on basic history. Millions have died in wars, executions, starvation from failed socialist governments and idiots still think it's a good idea. Those that gave their lives deserve better than to be forgotten.
I remember Kaitlin Bennett / Gun Girl (though she's not my favorite person tbh) did a video where she went and asked people who they wanted to vote for and they said mostly Democrats and then she asked them simple questions about US history and they had no idea at all.
As much as that sounds good, it 100% will be abused. Jim Crow laws were used as ways to keep out educated people by giving local officials the ability to create answers that could go both ways then penalizing the answerer when they inevitably got it wrong.
This would be used the same way to keep out the anti-establishment candidates.
Don't think the constitution applies to illegal aliens? Well you'd be wrong because of court decisions, guess you cannot vote.
Careful. We dont put qualifiers on rights. Well, we shouldn't anyhow. We dont want to have to pass a test to exercise our 2nd amendment rights. Registering to vote is the test. A lot of people dont pass that one
The flip side is with rights comes responsibilities, like contributing to society. If you can vote for bread and circuses and 51% of the population decides that's the way to go, your country will never recover.
Only land owners should have a vote since they have an obvious alignment of long term goals, i.e. to make the country more propserous. Obvious exceptions include military service, but we have a bunch of people voting nowadays that see the government as a big piggy bank and don't care for it's long term health.
It would be nice to have a simple required test on basic history
But that would perpetuate white supremacy! What about all the people with IQs too low to pass the test, or migrants who don't care about our history and are only here to live off our social safety net? Democrats would be at a disadvantage if they couldn't sell our country out to these people!
We can have immigration again when our unemployment rate reaches zero. A little extremist I know, but a country, any country needs to prioritize it's people before they do anything for the people of a foreign land.
Perfect example? Syrians in Canada. The government up there has been caught in a bunch of scandals the last few years and still maintain good support levels, probably due to Syrians.
Absolutely 100%. The founders could not POSSIBLY have envisioned the nation becoming overrun with manchildren who never grew up at twice the age that their own sons were being sent to serve in the court of the Tzarina of Russia (John Quincy Adams, 14.) They figured "By 18, they'll be married or getting married, starting their own household, they're well informed American men by then!"
General Washington would have surrendered, if he could have seen what we'd do to his legacy...
18 is not too young to drink or buy cigarettes. The fact that we have the highest drinking age in the world except for countries like Qatar is embarrassing. Even cucked Canada is 19.
It was 18, for a while. High-school seniors fucked it up. Seriously. They were buying alcohol and giving it to their minor friends.
Yeah, I know it still isn't much of a barrier. But then, the news had a constant drumbeat of 16-17's that died or fucked themselves up on alcohol their buddy bought for them.
They raised it to 19 in some states. Other states limited people under 21 to 3.2% beer (which tastes horrid). Ultimately, the federal government said: you have to raise it to 21, or we'll cut off your federal highway funds.
They imposed a nationwide 55 mph speed limit the same way.
I turned 18 during that period, but was 21 by the time it was forced on the states.
I agree 100%
If 18 is too young to drink or buy cigarettes then it's certainly too young to vote for the President of the US.
It would be nice to have a simple required test on basic history with free materials / books as well. There are too many ignorant citizens uneducated on basic history. Millions have died in wars, executions, starvation from failed socialist governments and idiots still think it's a good idea. Those that gave their lives deserve better than to be forgotten.
Oh yeah, 100%
I remember Kaitlin Bennett / Gun Girl (though she's not my favorite person tbh) did a video where she went and asked people who they wanted to vote for and they said mostly Democrats and then she asked them simple questions about US history and they had no idea at all.
They thought the Revolutionary War was around 1920 and other clueless shit.
As much as that sounds good, it 100% will be abused. Jim Crow laws were used as ways to keep out educated people by giving local officials the ability to create answers that could go both ways then penalizing the answerer when they inevitably got it wrong.
This would be used the same way to keep out the anti-establishment candidates.
Don't think the constitution applies to illegal aliens? Well you'd be wrong because of court decisions, guess you cannot vote.
Careful. We dont put qualifiers on rights. Well, we shouldn't anyhow. We dont want to have to pass a test to exercise our 2nd amendment rights. Registering to vote is the test. A lot of people dont pass that one
The flip side is with rights comes responsibilities, like contributing to society. If you can vote for bread and circuses and 51% of the population decides that's the way to go, your country will never recover.
That's why we have electoral college. Especially since the states used to be way less intertwined.
Only land owners should have a vote since they have an obvious alignment of long term goals, i.e. to make the country more propserous. Obvious exceptions include military service, but we have a bunch of people voting nowadays that see the government as a big piggy bank and don't care for it's long term health.
t. non-landowner
But that would perpetuate white supremacy! What about all the people with IQs too low to pass the test, or migrants who don't care about our history and are only here to live off our social safety net? Democrats would be at a disadvantage if they couldn't sell our country out to these people!
I also think immigrants should have to wait 18 years before they can vote. Or that we should just stop all immigration for the next few decades.
We can have immigration again when our unemployment rate reaches zero. A little extremist I know, but a country, any country needs to prioritize it's people before they do anything for the people of a foreign land.
I’m personally for zero immigration for at least 100 years.
Perfect example? Syrians in Canada. The government up there has been caught in a bunch of scandals the last few years and still maintain good support levels, probably due to Syrians.
Good point.... Whew lad if we raised the voting age to 21 it would single handley destroy the democratic party
Absolutely 100%. The founders could not POSSIBLY have envisioned the nation becoming overrun with manchildren who never grew up at twice the age that their own sons were being sent to serve in the court of the Tzarina of Russia (John Quincy Adams, 14.) They figured "By 18, they'll be married or getting married, starting their own household, they're well informed American men by then!"
General Washington would have surrendered, if he could have seen what we'd do to his legacy...
18 is not too young to drink or buy cigarettes. The fact that we have the highest drinking age in the world except for countries like Qatar is embarrassing. Even cucked Canada is 19.
It was 18, for a while. High-school seniors fucked it up. Seriously. They were buying alcohol and giving it to their minor friends.
Yeah, I know it still isn't much of a barrier. But then, the news had a constant drumbeat of 16-17's that died or fucked themselves up on alcohol their buddy bought for them.
They raised it to 19 in some states. Other states limited people under 21 to 3.2% beer (which tastes horrid). Ultimately, the federal government said: you have to raise it to 21, or we'll cut off your federal highway funds.
They imposed a nationwide 55 mph speed limit the same way.
I turned 18 during that period, but was 21 by the time it was forced on the states.