Dems want to lower the voting age because their target base is clueless
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The country already had this discussion. 18 is the federal voting age because it's the draft age, and the states adopted the federal standard for political and logistical reasons. The mistake here is that women of the same age can vote for whatever without any danger of being sent to war. At least with older men they were in the draft registry when they were younger.
Women voting isn't the problem. The problem is the education system brainwashing people into voting for stupid shit.
Actually it is. Women vote overwhelmingly left. And they consume overwhelmingly consume tax money while men provide most of it. And left means wealth redistribution.
Nothing you do will ever change that inherent gender based bias. The fair deal is marriage and having your partner supply you as a woman - but with welfare systems and having the ability to vote to force others to gib money, this will never change.
The education system will be corrupt and broken as long as governments hold quasi-monopoly over it.
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net tax payers only should be allowed to vote, I think. That would fix a lot of it.
Indeed. It would only be fair if those who pay taxes can decide how to allocate them.
Fundamentally this is the root of the problem. It's quite simple really: women have a different life strategy hardwired into them. They need other people's resources. Just part of life. They have kids, they are vulnerable during pregnancy and childbirth, and they have to ensure they get the things they need to keep them and their kids alive. This is why women overwhelmingly push for bigger social safety nets and socialist/communist policies.
Realistically, I think it is a tough sell to undo the 19th amendment, although it would fix nearly all of our problems.
I think it is more practical to restrict voting to only land owners, and allow women who own land to vote as well.
It eliminates black and Hispanic votes too since they're all net drains on taxes.
Their hypergamous nature also wants a flow of alpha men coming in so that they can be sure they're with the best man. Hence open borders and muh diversity. There's a huge reason past societies didn't have women voting.
Just look at 2016’s results and tell me women voting aren’t the problem. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.mMsMFzMYs4dtROEoog0FVgHaEC%26pid%3DApi&f=1 All those men voting went through the same educational brainwashing and somehow came to the correct conclusion. If women couldn’t vote, we would be free from commie bullshit forever.
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I am a girl and I think this is based and true.
I am a girl and many of girls my age are lefty or extreme and crazy Trump haters.
And if you’re a girl and you’re on TD.W, you probably want a voting map that looks like the one I linked above.
18 is the draft age but if you’re not drafted why should that affect you? Never understood that, we haven’t had a draft in 50 years
Unfortunately, there's more to the draft than that. The Selective Service is the registration admin responsible for keeping track of the draft pool. If a man doesn't register with SS he can't get a job in the government, can't get federal student aid, and is breaking the law.
There have been cases of men being fired from their job for failure to register even though they are too old to be drafted.
No draft, no issues
What does voting and fighting in a war have anything to do with each other? If that's the criteria, then all senior citizens need to be denied the right to vote because they can't fight in wars.
Literally everything. Conscription is evil. A necessary evil, but evil nonetheless. But the idea of conscripting those incapable of voting on representatives to prevent the conscription in the first place is slavery.
It is the literal taxation (of the human body) without representation that we fought a war to stop.
As for Americans who've "aged out" or even those with medical conditions, they are still technically draftable. The fact that there are plenty of those in a younger age range would out them at the back of a very, very long line.
Conscription isn't evil, conscripting Americans to fight foreign wars against our interests is evil.
Plus you don't need the right to vote yourself to still have representation. You're represented by your peers who can vote. The colonies fought because they had no vote or voice at all in parliament.
How on earth does being an effective killer on the battlefield translate to making wise decisions on electing representatives? I see zero correlation.
I see plenty of correlation between more life experience, like having a job, paying taxes, being married and taking care of others, and making good voting decisions.
of course you would say that. You think someone who went to war would want to vote for more war in the future?
Did you really ask that question? You have a right to vote if you are going to war or not. Jesus Christ, that wasn’t a well thought out statement.
I can get behind seniors reaching an age where they can no longer vote, but that’s a different topic. I can also get behind only people who contribute more in taxes than they receive voting.
There is ZERO correlation between being a soldier and responsible voting. You can be the most lethal soldier and vote in horrible policies. You can also never participate in a war and vote for the best polices.
its part history dude, of nearly all countries. the right to vote was tied to responsibility/service.
Responsibility? Sure, I'm down with that. Which is why I'd rather up the voting age when people actually get responsible.
But there is absolutely no correlation between fighting in a war (or getting drafted) and making good decisions at the voting booth. Again, if it was, then all seniors need to be denied the right to vote.
That doesn't make any sense. The elderly can still be drafted. They just typically aren't because why would you draft an 80-year-old when you can draft a physically fit and healthy 18-year-old?
why? if they also had to sign up for the draft? what about people born cripples who cant serve?
im for voter reform as in denying voting rights to welfare recipients and dual citizens and what not.
If you can be drafted into the military and possibly lose your life fighting a war ordered by the politicians, you should have a say in choosing those politicians.
This was the crux of the argument for lowering the voting age to 18 in the 70's.
That comes at an extremely high cost. What policies do young people tend to vote for? Bigger gov't, higher taxes, more entitlements. And it makes sense why. An 18 year old today is far different than an 18 year old 100-200 years ago. Back then, they'd be done with school around the age of 14. Which means they were likely to be working for several years. Many of them were already married and had to be responsible for kids. A far cry from today's youth.