Dems want to lower the voting age because their target base is clueless
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What does voting and fighting in a war have anything to do with each other? If that's the criteria, then all senior citizens need to be denied the right to vote because they can't fight in wars.
Literally everything. Conscription is evil. A necessary evil, but evil nonetheless. But the idea of conscripting those incapable of voting on representatives to prevent the conscription in the first place is slavery.
It is the literal taxation (of the human body) without representation that we fought a war to stop.
As for Americans who've "aged out" or even those with medical conditions, they are still technically draftable. The fact that there are plenty of those in a younger age range would out them at the back of a very, very long line.
Conscription isn't evil, conscripting Americans to fight foreign wars against our interests is evil.
Plus you don't need the right to vote yourself to still have representation. You're represented by your peers who can vote. The colonies fought because they had no vote or voice at all in parliament.
How on earth does being an effective killer on the battlefield translate to making wise decisions on electing representatives? I see zero correlation.
I see plenty of correlation between more life experience, like having a job, paying taxes, being married and taking care of others, and making good voting decisions.
of course you would say that. You think someone who went to war would want to vote for more war in the future?
You'd think not, but WW1 -> WW2
The public doesn't vote on going to war. And why on earth would I need to participate in war to know it's terrible? I'm against all wars unless every other option has been exhausted.
Did you really ask that question? You have a right to vote if you are going to war or not. Jesus Christ, that wasn’t a well thought out statement.
I can get behind seniors reaching an age where they can no longer vote, but that’s a different topic. I can also get behind only people who contribute more in taxes than they receive voting.
There is ZERO correlation between being a soldier and responsible voting. You can be the most lethal soldier and vote in horrible policies. You can also never participate in a war and vote for the best polices.
its part history dude, of nearly all countries. the right to vote was tied to responsibility/service.
Responsibility? Sure, I'm down with that. Which is why I'd rather up the voting age when people actually get responsible.
But there is absolutely no correlation between fighting in a war (or getting drafted) and making good decisions at the voting booth. Again, if it was, then all seniors need to be denied the right to vote.
That doesn't make any sense. The elderly can still be drafted. They just typically aren't because why would you draft an 80-year-old when you can draft a physically fit and healthy 18-year-old?
why? if they also had to sign up for the draft? what about people born cripples who cant serve?
im for voter reform as in denying voting rights to welfare recipients and dual citizens and what not.
Read my post again.
I'm saying that if there is some type of correlation between voting and going to war, then by that logic everyone who can't go to war should be denied the right to vote.
If you can be drafted into the military and possibly lose your life fighting a war ordered by the politicians, you should have a say in choosing those politicians.
This was the crux of the argument for lowering the voting age to 18 in the 70's.
That comes at an extremely high cost. What policies do young people tend to vote for? Bigger gov't, higher taxes, more entitlements. And it makes sense why. An 18 year old today is far different than an 18 year old 100-200 years ago. Back then, they'd be done with school around the age of 14. Which means they were likely to be working for several years. Many of them were already married and had to be responsible for kids. A far cry from today's youth.