Blinding you and then beating you to death can make it one. Absolutely if I am armed and someone is coming at me with pepper spray, I'll be prepared to fire before being blinded.
That isn't what happened here, so the point is moot, but I'm not going to give in to the argument that how deadly a weapon is should determine your self defense rights. That's the left's argument every time they get shot.
The common theme in all cases is that it's the leftist who is the aggressor. That is what changes this to a homicide and not self-defense, and the point we need to make clear.
Honestly it's a bit sad to see the number of people who are so terribly ill-informed about use of force and escalation of force. I've seen a handful of seemingly well-meaning people who said they would shoot someone, too, if the roles were reversed.
I think T_D could use a good AMA from a self-defense expert to help set a lot of people straight on this matter. Your life could literally depend on it.
If you were in kenosha w/ a violent mob chasing you, and having been shot at, and are being struck on the ground while ountumbered w/ no hope of escape as your assailants have stopped your escape = you can shoot
when you follow your victim, attack them, and then they mace you, and you shoot them despite having a very easy exit (walk the other way) = murder
mace can theoretically justify a shoot in a certain context. If the mace is being used to escalate the harm against you, prevent your escape, etc, and you expect great bodily harm to follow the mace, you can shoot. By contrast, if someone is just macing you, and you 1) can easily escape or leave or 2) no reasonable person would fear great bodily harm to follow, you cannot shoot.
especially when that person is not just macing you, but didn't do so until you drew your own weapon against them. Watch the video again. The bear spray was used in self defense.
Kenosha: Kid is running for his life, gets shot at, shoots someone charging him, continues to flee, gets struck in head, hit w/ skateboard, antifa pulls gun on him, ppl yelling they gonna kill him, defends himself w/ no collateral dmg = libtards cry
Denver: Antifa trails conservative, attacks him, when pushed away and maced, murders his victim = libards cheer
Pinkerton glowies are doing damage control. I checked their website and they do cyber stuff and most likely turned their public relations team loose to clean up the shit storm.
You don't get to try an put your hands on someone and claim to be a victim when they assault you to get you to back off them. The guy who got shot didn't even punch him he just slapped him to get him to back off and then he backed up a few steps.
What a dummy. I responded to one of his idiotic comments earlier and laid out what we know as of right now (which to me clearly shows Lee was not the aggressor) and he's still going on like that? I guess he really is a glowing shill.
Pepper spray isn't a deadly weapon, so not only is this glowie a retard, but he's doubling down saying he'd shoot someone for the same as well.
They are obviously mentally unstable, insecure, and weak without a gun.
Antifa were the ones stalking them and instigating fights. You can't start a fight with someone and then claim self-defense.
I'm already seeing it.
Blinding you and then beating you to death can make it one. Absolutely if I am armed and someone is coming at me with pepper spray, I'll be prepared to fire before being blinded.
That isn't what happened here, so the point is moot, but I'm not going to give in to the argument that how deadly a weapon is should determine your self defense rights. That's the left's argument every time they get shot.
The common theme in all cases is that it's the leftist who is the aggressor. That is what changes this to a homicide and not self-defense, and the point we need to make clear.
Honestly it's a bit sad to see the number of people who are so terribly ill-informed about use of force and escalation of force. I've seen a handful of seemingly well-meaning people who said they would shoot someone, too, if the roles were reversed.
I think T_D could use a good AMA from a self-defense expert to help set a lot of people straight on this matter. Your life could literally depend on it.
If you were in kenosha w/ a violent mob chasing you, and having been shot at, and are being struck on the ground while ountumbered w/ no hope of escape as your assailants have stopped your escape = you can shoot
when you follow your victim, attack them, and then they mace you, and you shoot them despite having a very easy exit (walk the other way) = murder
mace can theoretically justify a shoot in a certain context. If the mace is being used to escalate the harm against you, prevent your escape, etc, and you expect great bodily harm to follow the mace, you can shoot. By contrast, if someone is just macing you, and you 1) can easily escape or leave or 2) no reasonable person would fear great bodily harm to follow, you cannot shoot.
especially when that person is not just macing you, but didn't do so until you drew your own weapon against them. Watch the video again. The bear spray was used in self defense.
You mean MURDER INSURANCE?!? REEEEEEEEEEEE
But yeah. It could be a very positive thing, especially for Sunday Gunday. Maybe it helps a few people avoid situations like the one in Denver yesterday, or like what happened to the lady who spoke at the RNC this year.
Kenosha: Kid is running for his life, gets shot at, shoots someone charging him, continues to flee, gets struck in head, hit w/ skateboard, antifa pulls gun on him, ppl yelling they gonna kill him, defends himself w/ no collateral dmg = libtards cry
Denver: Antifa trails conservative, attacks him, when pushed away and maced, murders his victim = libards cheer
antifa guy was going for the other guys shoulder holstered gun.
Pinkerton glowies are doing damage control. I checked their website and they do cyber stuff and most likely turned their public relations team loose to clean up the shit storm.
So far there is zero actual evidence that he has anything to do with Pinkerton.
How come that leftist hasn't been deported yet?
A good shoot? Sounds like English is not his first language. Chinese troll?
Hes now trying to say that he's "a 21 year Military Man" .
He's desperate to not be banned by the mods now. You can find his replies in my history.
That's standard LEO language for these situations, man.
Yep, just a sleeper glowie.
They're coming put of the woodwork.
You don't get to try an put your hands on someone and claim to be a victim when they assault you to get you to back off them. The guy who got shot didn't even punch him he just slapped him to get him to back off and then he backed up a few steps.
Deport the glowie! OUT OUT OUT!
His most recent reply:
"Never seen the guy on the right start a fight. Post video or pics showing it.... I'll give you my unbiased opinion.... WTF is a glowie?"
Dude is desperate!
Now, go in to that conversation and ask them why they are protesting the Police when the Police shoot someone who assaulted them.
Oh yeah, saw this guy earlier today
You an updoodie.
Wow that dudes post history is filled with hate and wishing death on pretty much everyone for non-lethal offenses.
Trying to spread hate and make people here look bad.
Yep. He's one of the few glowies in the history of TD.win that have gone supernova.
Someone get that commie bastard a helicopter ride!
I'm sure these shills are from America, too. Good shoot !
This dude is double and tripling down in his more recent comments... obviously an unhinged loon.
And here we see the Glowfag in it's natural habitat.
I think this is more of a leftist shill than a glowie. A glowie would be buckets of fake outrage and encouraging us to go out and shoot first.
What a dummy. I responded to one of his idiotic comments earlier and laid out what we know as of right now (which to me clearly shows Lee was not the aggressor) and he's still going on like that? I guess he really is a glowing shill.
Yep. He just flat out rejects anything and continues saying "I'd just shoot them too!", like the lunatic he's exposed himself as.
“Good shoot”
-Looks up English grammatical spelling
Shit, “...Expect to be shot”
More likely Chinese troll or non-native English leftist.
Its called Battery. Dumbasses.