My buddy’s daughter got snippy with me this weekend saying Columbus did NOT discover North America. I didn’t argue with her cause I have no clue wtf she’s talking about. She’s a senior in high school so obviously she’s been brainwashed. Can someone educate me on what the Marxist argument is on Columbus? I’m lost.
It's all over the place, but generally it's just an effort to discredit what Columbus did by pointing out that Leif Ericson was there first. Of course, that doesn't make it less impressive, since it's not as if the Vikings told anybody. Columbus still was making a dangerous voyage that few others would try, and he's the one who actually "dis-covered" (as in, revealed to the Old World) the New World. Ericson may have been there first, but he left it "covered."
Alternatively, some truly wacky people try to claim that neither Ericson nor Columbus matter because the "Indigenous Peoples" discovered it first. Which once again, makes little difference, because those "discoverers" didn't maintain contact with the Old World.
But Indigenous implies that a people were from there. That pesky science shit that they keep hammering us with, saying the world only has “x, days/weeks/months/years left” also proved to date that no person’s were indigenous to the North American continent. Unless they are saying that if those people were “born here” thus making us all “natives/indigenous.” Either way we play it their heads fucking explode.
He didn’t have to cheat by taking the short route and hopping from settled island to island to get to Canada - which we all know isn’t North America, it’s South Arctic.
I can tell you that his political opponent of the day wrote a hit piece smear job on Columbus which is now brought up today by the left claiming he was a monster.
The legit one says that others crossed the Atlantic first, which is true. Here's a video on the Vikings, who definitely settled Greenland and may have frittered about in Canada:
Amusingly enough, the Vikings left Greenland at the end of the Medieval Warm Period, which is something "climate scientists" try to erase from the record in order to prove the global warming hoax.
(There's also St Brendan and other semi-mythical discoverers pre-Columbus, but the evidence for them is scant.)
The commie version is that the Americas were already discovered by the peaceful LGBTQ natives with their Green New Deals and peaceful protests etc., and Columbus merely introduced toxic masculinity and so forth.
Technically, Columbus never stepped foot on the actual North American continent.
No matter, the strategy of the Columbus Mission was to “prove” to the Muslims in Spain that God and Jesus was the true God. The New World discovery was a demoralizing factor. Records indicate that Columbus himself was in attendance when the Muslim Prince kissed the ring as part of the surrender.
The Vikings definitely made it along the Ohio River and had presence up the Great Miami River. Probably trade presence.
The DNA of the true Miami (Ohio) Indians should be studied for Viking influence.
Not all but a lot of them were very petty and fought wars over a simple bead. Some tribes were bloody savage others were nice but they were living like it was the stone age.
There was a viking named Eric the Red that i believe first found the North American contiinent. But Columbus was the first to spread word about it and led to settlers coming to the new land.
It's more complicated. Columbus knew of the Vikings, they were quiet, but not silent. The Vikings didn't believe they were in Asia. They didn't care. All they cared about was trade in lumber and ivory. Christopher figured that they must have been going way north of China. The story we have today was actually created by paleo-leftists during the 1800. Remember, they lionized him before they hated him.
My buddy’s daughter got snippy with me this weekend saying Columbus did NOT discover North America. I didn’t argue with her cause I have no clue wtf she’s talking about. She’s a senior in high school so obviously she’s been brainwashed. Can someone educate me on what the Marxist argument is on Columbus? I’m lost.
It's all over the place, but generally it's just an effort to discredit what Columbus did by pointing out that Leif Ericson was there first. Of course, that doesn't make it less impressive, since it's not as if the Vikings told anybody. Columbus still was making a dangerous voyage that few others would try, and he's the one who actually "dis-covered" (as in, revealed to the Old World) the New World. Ericson may have been there first, but he left it "covered."
Alternatively, some truly wacky people try to claim that neither Ericson nor Columbus matter because the "Indigenous Peoples" discovered it first. Which once again, makes little difference, because those "discoverers" didn't maintain contact with the Old World.
He didn't discover it. It was already there. He just showed it to people that knew how to use it. We would still be living in teepees without him.
I just wanna point out the definition of discover:
dis·cov·er
Considering the guy thought he was in India, its safe to say he discovered it.
Thanks! The indigenous angle is what I figured she was playing but wasn’t completely sure. I went red when she got snippy so I left it alone entirely.
I like indigenous peoples who don't lose entire continents.
In America we celebrate winners. Not losers.
My leftist “friends” are losing it on me because I called it Columbus Day Hahahaha. They are comparing Columbus to Hitler. Unbelievable.
But Indigenous implies that a people were from there. That pesky science shit that they keep hammering us with, saying the world only has “x, days/weeks/months/years left” also proved to date that no person’s were indigenous to the North American continent. Unless they are saying that if those people were “born here” thus making us all “natives/indigenous.” Either way we play it their heads fucking explode.
He didn’t have to cheat by taking the short route and hopping from settled island to island to get to Canada - which we all know isn’t North America, it’s South Arctic.
White people bad. Savages without the fucking wheel, good. Basically.
Lefties actually believe this but unironically...
I can tell you that his political opponent of the day wrote a hit piece smear job on Columbus which is now brought up today by the left claiming he was a monster.
Figures. Anything to trash our country’s history.
Spain was and still is the monster. Columbus was in big trouble with the Queen. He was acting to save his skin.
Remember folks, it was and always has been the Democrats who abused the Indians. Ask any real Cherokee!
There's a legit and a commie interpretation.
The legit one says that others crossed the Atlantic first, which is true. Here's a video on the Vikings, who definitely settled Greenland and may have frittered about in Canada:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XVZFYk-s8c4
Amusingly enough, the Vikings left Greenland at the end of the Medieval Warm Period, which is something "climate scientists" try to erase from the record in order to prove the global warming hoax.
(There's also St Brendan and other semi-mythical discoverers pre-Columbus, but the evidence for them is scant.)
The commie version is that the Americas were already discovered by the peaceful LGBTQ natives with their Green New Deals and peaceful protests etc., and Columbus merely introduced toxic masculinity and so forth.
Here's a debunking of that nonsense:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEw8c6TmzGg
"peaceful LGBTQ natives"
haha savage
Savage haha. I see what you did there.
Heh, indeed.
Technically, Columbus never stepped foot on the actual North American continent.
No matter, the strategy of the Columbus Mission was to “prove” to the Muslims in Spain that God and Jesus was the true God. The New World discovery was a demoralizing factor. Records indicate that Columbus himself was in attendance when the Muslim Prince kissed the ring as part of the surrender.
The Vikings definitely made it along the Ohio River and had presence up the Great Miami River. Probably trade presence.
The DNA of the true Miami (Ohio) Indians should be studied for Viking influence.
There used to be talk of blue-eyed Eskimos of Viking origin:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond_Eskimos
Contemporary scientists deny it but they would wouldn't they.
Not all but a lot of them were very petty and fought wars over a simple bead. Some tribes were bloody savage others were nice but they were living like it was the stone age.
There was a viking named Eric the Red that i believe first found the North American contiinent. But Columbus was the first to spread word about it and led to settlers coming to the new land.
Leif errickson. Son of eric
Thank you for the correction, its been so long since I had to remember any of that part of history.
Happy Leif Ericsson Day!
Hinga dinga durgin
The best part about being a Viking would have been the awesome name. Thanks for the response!
Unless you get stuck with "Boneless"
🤣
It's more complicated. Columbus knew of the Vikings, they were quiet, but not silent. The Vikings didn't believe they were in Asia. They didn't care. All they cared about was trade in lumber and ivory. Christopher figured that they must have been going way north of China. The story we have today was actually created by paleo-leftists during the 1800. Remember, they lionized him before they hated him.