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"Without God, everything is permitted" Voltaire (media.patriots.win) 🔥 FIRE & FURY 💥
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ClownTamer 26 points ago +29 / -3

I’m not Christian, but I mostly agree. The US Constitution is the sum total of all philosophical and religious progress of the Western world, a good deal of which is from Christianity. It’s written all over it. You don’t have to believe in a literal god to acknowledge that. In fact, there being a God or not with a capital G is entirely irrelevant to it, which confuses many when considering it.

“I don’t believe in God, so everything that has to do with that, past and present, is wrong and false!” Yeah, not really.

Looking to history and the present, there are also seemingly zero successful Muslim states. When you look over to Asia in places like China, you’re not usually going to like what you see, either, when it comes to a lot of that. The ones you would like are usually the most Westernized, like Hong Kong. British rule was the best thing that ever happened to them. And America. Native American culture back then didn’t exactly contribute anything to the modern world. They made some epic beads I guess.

You can shit on Christianity all you want. Not all Christians are perfect, and never will be. Acknowledging that’s built into it. But if you don’t acknowledge the infinite debt we all have to Christianity and the Christian community, you‘re probably very ignorant of what has gone on over the last few hundred years, if not thousands of years. And again, I’m not a Christian, and I don’t believe in God. If we had a Christian revival over the Postmodern upheaval we’re all in, we’d all have been better off.

Postmodernism probably has more words written for it than anything before it, and still hasn’t managed to do one productive thing.

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ClownTamer 9 points ago +10 / -1

I know some really nice Paki People, but that does make sense in their case, and they mostly fled Pakistan to get away from that shit. They seemingly have every health problem you can imagine, usually accompanied by entirely recessive genes.

I imagine the biggest cultural divide in Pakistan is between people that do that and people that don’t because the people that don’t are probably loads smarter in ways the other portion can’t relate to because of years of that shit.

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shadypollster 5 points ago +6 / -1

When I see a comment like this downvoted I assume it's a shill.

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ClownTamer 6 points ago +7 / -1

Or an inbred.

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Long_time_lurker 4 points ago +5 / -1

You see a lot of places where everyone has like 1 downvote from a commie passing through. It's good to give those people an uptrump just to let the commies know that it's futile.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ya incest doesn't usually leave the family...

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Scroon 9 points ago +9 / -0

I agree and disagree with both of you guys, though I'm sure we're all on the same page.

God is definitely necessary to the philosophy and morality of the United States. The unquestionable belief in a Creator and His "God-given rights" forms the bedrock of what can and can't be altered in our country. It's what people will die for.

If you don't believe in this absolute authority, and if you do believe that our nation is formed by concepts delivered by flawed human beings, then America could not have the solidity, conviction, and exceptionalism that makes us unlike any other country on Earth.

At the same time, it's not that our nation and philosophy is like Christianity because it's based on Christianity. Rather, both endeavors work towards the same truth and realization of God's Will, and thus their similarity.

So while you don't need to be Christian to fully appreciate the American Spirit, you do need to know God. And the true God just happens to be who Jesus spoke of and also is.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

The ottamans were attacking Europe for hundreds of years. I would consider them successful up until the siege of Vienna.

The Voltaire quote speaks to the fact that there is no coherent moral system man can create without a pure moral source.

That source of morality you recognize and, dane to indulge or deny is the makers mark in you.

The laws of morality are not like the laws of physics. A rock obeys the laws of physics. A person decides to obey the moral law.

https://youtu.be/xcCcHtqzQvs

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Pedeville 1 point ago +1 / -0

Becaus the Christian kings didnt unite to defend against them, meanwhile every muslim joined their crusades to take out one country at a time

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Pedeville 1 point ago +1 / -0

When muslims first invaded, all the kings of Europe was busy disliking eachother, so the muslims conquered a lot. They had 3 jihads before thefirst crusade started to retake what they had conquered

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Goldlight 1 point ago +1 / -0

that's because for a while the muslims were united under one country

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Italians_Invented_2A 3 points ago +7 / -4

Looking to history and the present, there are also seemingly zero successful Muslim states.

LOL WUT?

You don't know history then. Ottoman empire was one of strongest and longest lasting empire in history.

As for today, there are 4 Muslim countries with a higher GDP (per capita) than the US: Qatar, Brunei, UAE, Kuwait.

And then Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Oman have a GDP in line with major European countries.

The US Constitution is the sum total of all philosophical and religious progress of the Western world, a good deal of which is from Christianity

Too bad there's half a continent, Africa, of failed states which are Christians. There's also a lot more shitholes which are Christians, such as Haiti.

The correlation between Christianity and wealth is zero. The real correlation is with race, and it just happens that today white people are Christians.

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ClownTamer 8 points ago +8 / -0

Good points for the most part, but let me rephrase that: You don’t typically see the same kind of stable and developed states in Muslim run countries as you do in Christian ones. With how unequal wealth tends to be distributed there, it’s also not an easy comparison to make.

I wouldn’t consider Africa a Christian state. There’s been a big surge of Christianity there, and about an equal surge in Muslims, but Africa’s mostly been chaotic for a very long time. I’m not sure I’d count something as a Christian state if a bunch of people there became Christian after it was already on fire.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ya, Muslim states deffinitely destabilize over time but, they all kinda do...

Thomas Sowell has some great points that cultural practices yield success regardless of race IQ or education.

https://youtu.be/J92gQDZ4dL8

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Italians_Invented_2A -1 points ago +2 / -3

Africa certainly qualifies as Christian. It's actually much more religious than the West, so African Christian countries should be doing great compared to the West that has all these damn atheists.

And contrary to what you said, a Muslim country can be much more stable. They don't accept destructive forces such as feminism or LGBT. Islam has "antibodies" which is killing anything that goes against it. Christianity doesn't, with its "turn the other cheek" mentality. Demonstration of that is that, while both religions are against homosexuality, in Christian countries you have schools infested by LGBT activists that convert our children. Islam does not allow that. Their "intolerance" is their strength.

Besides, in 2020 who is colonizing who?

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ClownTamer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Africa seems to have just as many Muslims as Christians, both of which are seemingly more recent things. Not that there aren’t a million reasons Africa’s not doing so hot, and was maybe never doing so hot.

I will agree on Islam being intolerant of other religions does protect them from postmodern bullshit.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 0 points ago +4 / -4

That's retarded Nigerians and, Caribbean blacks that live in the US have higher average incomes than whites.

The last other race of human was neanderthal.

There is literally only one race.

I will explain

A donkey and a horse are different races of equine. They can have offspring which is called a mule.

No mules can breed with anything on earth because all interrace offspring are universally infertile.

That is the definition of a race.

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Italians_Invented_2A 1 point ago +4 / -3

I lost a couple of points of IQ just by reading this post.

A donkey and a horse are different species.

Legal immigrants do better on paper because it's a highly self selected group as only the best of a country's population can (legally) succeed in a different country. You don't get a Nigerian drug addict good for nothing to win a visa for the US. Do you even know what it takes to legally immigrate to the US? Only the very best can get a visa, apart from the very small "diversity lottery" that Trump trashed.

Neanderthal is a different species too, they were not humans.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

Race is objectively not definable in humans.

You are just a racist who doesn't understand that