Jordan Peterson said something akin to this in one of his maps of meaning lectures: it's known as the Democratisation of Osiris.
Egypt had the pharaoh as the embodiment of Horus/Osiris, and was therefore godlike and sovereign.
In time, Aristocrats in Egypt started to use the Horus/Osiris sigil, and sovereignty travelled down the hierarchy. Sovereignty meaning people were treated with respect, and were (roughly speaking) derived from the divine.
The Greeks came along and said this sovereignty applied to men (males) of means.
The Christians came along and said: No, everyone is sovereign, men, women and even the meanest of people, even those who are murderers.
And so we have the situation where everyone is assumed innocent until proven guilty, primarily because we attribute the individual with the attributes of the divine.
I'm not a Christian, but try to live my life with Christian values, mainly because I've been brought up with them, but they work whatever your view of God is.
This blew my mind when I first heard it.
I'm not aware of any other religion that has the importance of the individual completely baked into it at the fundamental level.
When I first saw one of Jordan Peterson videos, I had no idea who he was or why YouTube recommended his video. It just looked like a classroom lecture over normal everyday life lessons. Kinda like a self-help / advice seminar for youth. OK cool I guess.
I only revisited his stuff and started paying attention after hearing there was some "controversy" over him, and laughed out loud at the reasons for said controversy. Everything he says is common sense - and frankly not that innovative - I didn't realize things he said could even be controversial. (except maybe the wage gap, but that's always been a political football)
I always knew there were weirdos that had their own fringe ideas counter to what he says, but I didn't know they had become so influential in society.
My take is that he's describing why we have an affinity to do certain things, and it's because it is baked in at a very very low level physically, and is also very ancient. Meaning that 'thoughts' like postmodernism, which is less than a century old, is a very poor substitute.
Which, to my mind, is why the left hate him and find him 'controversial'. They are influential, mainly because we've let them become so, as we're too busy 'getting stuff done' to go to the local town hall, the PTA, and assuming that universities are there to expand minds (they're not).
He's opened my mind in several ways, and is a big part of my own red-pilling.
Yeah a lot of what he is saying is innately understood but he elaborates it in a very easy to understand way that can break people out of the social programming we've grown up with. Programming that covers up and dulls our natural instincts.
Ya they are funded by China and socialists to subvert our way of life. Their efforts can not drown out the word of God to those brave enough to seek it.
I grew up in a northern pentacostal church so, pentacostal cause it's the closest church and, I have always felt the services were good. My family goes there and, I'm only going to one church on Sundays.
Jordan Peterson said something akin to this in one of his maps of meaning lectures: it's known as the Democratisation of Osiris.
Egypt had the pharaoh as the embodiment of Horus/Osiris, and was therefore godlike and sovereign.
In time, Aristocrats in Egypt started to use the Horus/Osiris sigil, and sovereignty travelled down the hierarchy. Sovereignty meaning people were treated with respect, and were (roughly speaking) derived from the divine.
The Greeks came along and said this sovereignty applied to men (males) of means.
The Christians came along and said: No, everyone is sovereign, men, women and even the meanest of people, even those who are murderers.
And so we have the situation where everyone is assumed innocent until proven guilty, primarily because we attribute the individual with the attributes of the divine.
I'm not a Christian, but try to live my life with Christian values, mainly because I've been brought up with them, but they work whatever your view of God is.
This blew my mind when I first heard it.
I'm not aware of any other religion that has the importance of the individual completely baked into it at the fundamental level.
Amazing.
When I first saw one of Jordan Peterson videos, I had no idea who he was or why YouTube recommended his video. It just looked like a classroom lecture over normal everyday life lessons. Kinda like a self-help / advice seminar for youth. OK cool I guess.
I only revisited his stuff and started paying attention after hearing there was some "controversy" over him, and laughed out loud at the reasons for said controversy. Everything he says is common sense - and frankly not that innovative - I didn't realize things he said could even be controversial. (except maybe the wage gap, but that's always been a political football)
I always knew there were weirdos that had their own fringe ideas counter to what he says, but I didn't know they had become so influential in society.
My take is that he's describing why we have an affinity to do certain things, and it's because it is baked in at a very very low level physically, and is also very ancient. Meaning that 'thoughts' like postmodernism, which is less than a century old, is a very poor substitute.
Which, to my mind, is why the left hate him and find him 'controversial'. They are influential, mainly because we've let them become so, as we're too busy 'getting stuff done' to go to the local town hall, the PTA, and assuming that universities are there to expand minds (they're not).
He's opened my mind in several ways, and is a big part of my own red-pilling.
Yeah a lot of what he is saying is innately understood but he elaborates it in a very easy to understand way that can break people out of the social programming we've grown up with. Programming that covers up and dulls our natural instincts.
Ya they are funded by China and socialists to subvert our way of life. Their efforts can not drown out the word of God to those brave enough to seek it.
Ya, there is something special about it.
I was atheist, I came back to God through reasonable and logical rationale.
I know everyone has to choose to be open to the idea maybe, now is your time to come back to the light.
https://youtu.be/ZB9bMFjHlYo
Thanks for the link, I've heard good things about CS Lewis, so I think I'll give it a listen.
I could hardly recommend anything more wholeheartedly
You are modern proselytizer. BigPedeEnergy. Who knows how many souls you have saved with this post?
So what religion do you practice?
I grew up in a northern pentacostal church so, pentacostal cause it's the closest church and, I have always felt the services were good. My family goes there and, I'm only going to one church on Sundays.