"If God does not exist, then everything is permitted"
They may decide to prohibit but, they still have to enforce. They also have to be made aware of the offense and, make a judgement on it. They are not constant nor, omnipresent.
You cannot escape morality because you are a moral agent. You were born to judge right from wrong and act on that.
Even if God did exist, we still enforce things. And, although I’m atheist, I consider myself extremely moral. When others on here were telling people to go to eBay and buy looted merchandise from Chicago, I recoiled. Not because it’s illegal, which it is, but because it’s wrong (which is why it’s illegal). It undermines society to reward people for theft. I’m pro-life because life is the most basic good, as long as it isn’t destructive - and babies are not destructive. But without God the ultimate authority is life itself. We have morality because it keeps us alive. Stealing from your community makes your community weaker, and it’s no surprise your community would want to punish you. Same with murder, and rape. These things all cause harm, regardless of god. Even homosexuality leads to not having children, which is an immense harm when the ultimate good is producing more life.
Just look at liberals vs. conservatives. The average conservative has 2.07 children. The average liberal has 1.4. Liberalism cannot reproduce itself. In a few hundred years it will be extinct.
I think the biological constructionist view of morality is very unconvincing to me. These moral lines extend far beyond what evolution would have interest in.
The statement still stands indisputable to me.
You need a pure moral source to create a moral system.
There is literally nothing that couldn’t affect evolution. The fact that you said “have an interest in” as if evolution is sentient or goal oriented just proves you don’t understand evolution.
Truth 1) there is no God.
Truth 2) we have moral systems.
I just checkmated you.
You have an explanation for why evil exists which makes sense? Do you have an explanation for why God decide you make black people dumber and more violent than other races? An omnipotent and omniscient God of Love is a terrible explanation for the world.
Well no. Without God, powerful men decide what is or is not permitted.
I kinda butchered this quote.
"If God does not exist, then everything is permitted"
They may decide to prohibit but, they still have to enforce. They also have to be made aware of the offense and, make a judgement on it. They are not constant nor, omnipresent.
You cannot escape morality because you are a moral agent. You were born to judge right from wrong and act on that.
https://youtu.be/ZB9bMFjHlYo
Even if God did exist, we still enforce things. And, although I’m atheist, I consider myself extremely moral. When others on here were telling people to go to eBay and buy looted merchandise from Chicago, I recoiled. Not because it’s illegal, which it is, but because it’s wrong (which is why it’s illegal). It undermines society to reward people for theft. I’m pro-life because life is the most basic good, as long as it isn’t destructive - and babies are not destructive. But without God the ultimate authority is life itself. We have morality because it keeps us alive. Stealing from your community makes your community weaker, and it’s no surprise your community would want to punish you. Same with murder, and rape. These things all cause harm, regardless of god. Even homosexuality leads to not having children, which is an immense harm when the ultimate good is producing more life. Just look at liberals vs. conservatives. The average conservative has 2.07 children. The average liberal has 1.4. Liberalism cannot reproduce itself. In a few hundred years it will be extinct.
I think the biological constructionist view of morality is very unconvincing to me. These moral lines extend far beyond what evolution would have interest in.
The statement still stands indisputable to me.
You need a pure moral source to create a moral system.
There is literally nothing that couldn’t affect evolution. The fact that you said “have an interest in” as if evolution is sentient or goal oriented just proves you don’t understand evolution.
Truth 1) there is no God.
Truth 2) we have moral systems.
I just checkmated you.
You have an explanation for why evil exists which makes sense? Do you have an explanation for why God decide you make black people dumber and more violent than other races? An omnipotent and omniscient God of Love is a terrible explanation for the world.