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"Without God, everything is permitted" Voltaire (media.patriots.win) 🔥 FIRE & FURY 💥
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iPertinax -8 points ago +10 / -18

That's not true at all. None of it. If you're a Christian you're an atheist in regards to thousands of gods, save one (the Jewish/Muslim/Christian Yahweh).

Theism is a state of belief. Atheism is a state of disbelief. You ALWAYS have the choice to be in a state of disbelief about anything that hasn't been demonstrated to your satisfaction - this is the default state for all extraordinary claims.

And if you're under the impression that charity and the golden rule were invented in the middle east 2k years ago, boy have I got some bad news for you...

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 8 points ago +9 / -1

The doublespeak is unbelievable....

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

It is a sickness of the mind. The best argument I ever heard against it was this.

https://youtu.be/ZB9bMFjHlYo

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iPertinax 1 point ago +1 / -0

For the amount of bible scholars claiming to be here y'all sure don't know your Greek. Atheism isn't 'anti-religion' it is the state of being without belief a deity. If you lack belief in Vishnu or Thor, you are an atheist when it comes to the question of your belief in their existence.

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Italians_Invented_2A -3 points ago +3 / -6

Don't misinterpret what he says. He says that just how you reject the belief of thousands of Gods that humanity has believed in at some point, he rejects one more.

That doesn't actually make you an atheist, but it explains to you how someone can reject the Jewish God you believe in.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Theists are atheists

Terrible argument.

You dont even understand what this quote is saying.

There is no possible coherent moral system that can be made without objective moral purity.

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iPertinax 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're an atheist towards 4,999 gods. Some add one more to the list.

Many of the other religions you refer to also claim an objective moral compass. You've grounded yours to barely literate bronze age peasants who elevated the Caananite war god from middle of the pantheon to the top.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

No theists and atheists are mutually exclusive.

Abolition of slavery came solely from Christian extremists.

There are good things and bad things in all religions.

For those that believe there is any God(s), they believe life is a process not a state. There is a story arch to life.

The preposterous atheist belief that mortals would be created to enter a purely struggle free life of bliss and ecstasy fails to see that, ALL the evils were put here to challenge and make people grow from it.

You were put here to be harrowed and harmed by evil. It is up to you to learn from it and, stand against it.

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DoesItWorkAlready 4 points ago +5 / -1

If you are an atheist you are just in denial that you believe in something. You say you don't, but you do.

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Italians_Invented_2A -6 points ago +3 / -9

we evolved from monkeys

Strawman, nobody believes that.

everything popped into existance from nothing

No, I don't make an assertive assumption about that. I just don't know. Asking an atheist what created the universe is like asking a Christian what created God. Neither of us has an answer.

our morality is subjective

Oh no, I believe morality is universal and absolute to humanity.

nothing happens after death

See number #2

there is no ultimate judgment

Why would you? Perhaps it's just a need to console yourself thinking that all the injustices in this world will be resolved in the next?

etc.

Please continue on what you think atheists think.

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LaLaChickadee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are you an atheist or a gnostic?

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Facccctttttttsssss

Source: I was atheist

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Pedeville 1 point ago +1 / -0

Atheist = dont believe in any divine beings. Atleast thats what I think, and all atheists I've ever met. We just dont believe there exists Gods.

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iPertinax 1 point ago +1 / -0

You know gods were created by man, not the other way around. You're in denial if you can't see that.

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Italians_Invented_2A -2 points ago +2 / -4

Atheists don't deny that they believe in something. They just don't believe in any particular organized religion.

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DoesItWorkAlready 3 points ago +3 / -0

They just don't believe in any particular organized religion.

Scientism is highly organized and followed by most atheists.

Thank you for additional evidence that most atheists are in denial. They deny they have a religion, when if you look at their worship of science, it's obvious it's got all the aspects of religion (or more accurately a cult)

  1. Priests: "99% of scientists agree blah blah blah"
  2. Beliefs you cannot blaspheme against.
  3. Sacred rituals "muh peer review"

I'll let you fill in the rest of this list:

https://religion-society.weebly.com/8-aspects-of-religion.html

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Italians_Invented_2A 0 points ago +2 / -2

You don't even know me, dude. I don't do any of those 3 things because science is not a religion.

Science has no dogma or predicted outcome. You're making a strawman based on the buzzwords of climate alarmists.

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Tom_Brett 3 points ago +3 / -0

Im talking about the idea to choose. You have your own agency. The concept of Christians was not even atheist or Christian, theist or believer. Its that you have the individual power to choose, save your soul, work with the Lord find redemption and live the pious life or CHOOSE another path.

Atheism as a term comes to us around the 1800s. Nonbeliever or heretic much longer. Nonbeliever implies that there is something to believe. Heretic that youve gone a different path.

Your atheist semantics would be true in the modern day.

Charity's popularity exploded with the rise of Christianity. Most all scholars agree with that, most who dont have an axe to grind about a religion that wronged them in their past....

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Barthaneous 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thats false. Christians know there are other lower gods, shoot even Jesus and our Father calls us gods of the earth.

We know there are gods but what we know them as demons and fallen angels who left their first estates and fell from grace seeking pleasure, glorfy and carnal interactions .

It is the Father, Jesus Christ the son and image and the Holy Spirit which are 3 in 1 the one true God.