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"Without God, everything is permitted" Voltaire (media.patriots.win) 🔥 FIRE & FURY 💥
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PeytonManThing 2 points ago +3 / -1

Even if God did exist, we still enforce things. And, although I’m atheist, I consider myself extremely moral. When others on here were telling people to go to eBay and buy looted merchandise from Chicago, I recoiled. Not because it’s illegal, which it is, but because it’s wrong (which is why it’s illegal). It undermines society to reward people for theft. I’m pro-life because life is the most basic good, as long as it isn’t destructive - and babies are not destructive. But without God the ultimate authority is life itself. We have morality because it keeps us alive. Stealing from your community makes your community weaker, and it’s no surprise your community would want to punish you. Same with murder, and rape. These things all cause harm, regardless of god. Even homosexuality leads to not having children, which is an immense harm when the ultimate good is producing more life. Just look at liberals vs. conservatives. The average conservative has 2.07 children. The average liberal has 1.4. Liberalism cannot reproduce itself. In a few hundred years it will be extinct.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think the biological constructionist view of morality is very unconvincing to me. These moral lines extend far beyond what evolution would have interest in.

The statement still stands indisputable to me.

You need a pure moral source to create a moral system.

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PeytonManThing -1 points ago +1 / -2

There is literally nothing that couldn’t affect evolution. The fact that you said “have an interest in” as if evolution is sentient or goal oriented just proves you don’t understand evolution.

Truth 1) there is no God.

Truth 2) we have moral systems.

I just checkmated you.

You have an explanation for why evil exists which makes sense? Do you have an explanation for why God decide you make black people dumber and more violent than other races? An omnipotent and omniscient God of Love is a terrible explanation for the world.

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BigPedeEnergy [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

There was always a God.

You didnt checkmate me.

All of the moral systems are based on Gods.

There is no atheist moral system that isn't getting all of it's main points from religion.

Not all moral decisions affect evolutionary effectiveness. If that were true you would never have a problem doing something bad when no one is looking but, you know it is still immoral not, bad for you.