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posted ago by AccipiterQ ago by AccipiterQ +1340 / -0

I've posted this in comments a few times, may deserve its own thread:

I have a friend that is a project leader at a very prominent engineering firm. They run internships and used to take applicants from Harvard, MIT, and more local state schools. Over the past decade or so they have completely dropped the Harvard & MIT students. He said they're useless. Even in these STEM fields they don't teach the students how to do actual engineering. Instead, the students started coming in and demanding to do projects on "racism in engineering" and garbage like that. They refused to do the projects that they were brought in to do, and whatever basic engineering tasks they were assigned to do, they fucked up. We're talking extremely basic stuff here. Everyone got tired of hearing about 'patriarchy' and 'race theory', so they took all the internship slots and started giving them to the state school kids that probably come from working-class backgrounds. Those kids actually had work-ethic and knew what they should.

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LibertyPenguin 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's well known in software engineering that many such graduates are not actually able to code. Standard practice is to have them code in the interview. I like to have them use an IDE since that's more realistic.

I suggest other disciplines do the same. In interview, give them some simple but real task that takes you 10 minutes and give them 30. Too many people sound like they know what they are talking about, then fail when given even the simple task.

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LibertyPenguin 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hear that, I'm a long time terminal nerd and vim user. In these interviews I'm just happy to find candidates who aren't obvious sociopaths and can follow directions!

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