Half the pollsters are in on the plan to manufacture a win/narrative for cheating. The other half are calling Pedes and asking “hi I am with MSM, this is anon but verify your address and tell me who you are voting for”
You wanna tell some Antifa sympathizer you’re Full MAGA? Nope.
Predict it is trending the same (kinda) as it did in ‘16 so they must be making odds on the same info. They don’t care a whole lot frankly who wins anyhow. They get their cut.
Predict it doesn't make the odds; their traders do. If you think, as I do, that Trump is more than 36% likely to win then you can, as I did, purchase $1 Biden-no contracts at 36 cents each. And this will drive the price up...
I can’t be awake 24/7 to watch for a mob to show up with molotovs. If violence is unavoidable, I would rather engage on my terms on my own time if given the option.
Anyone who picks up a newspaper in the morning and does not see himself slandered in it has not made profitable use of the previous day; for if he had, he would be persecuted, reviled, slandered, abused and befouled.
I get up each morning and dust off my wits, Open the paper, and read the Obits. If I’m not there, I know I’m not dead, So I eat a good breakfast and go back to bed!
But I have been an 18yo Mongolian African American female independent voting democrat for years when they call, drives wife crazy.( 50+ yo Cajun male) but hey they made the rules.
I enjoy taking the surveys. I get to “identify” however I am feeling at the moment. Always voting Dem. ticket. I tend to be gay African American super lib. I am so ridiculous that it feels unbelievable. But in the American left I am just another man in their echo chamber saving the planet from the boogey man named Republican.
They're doing this to prepare us for fraud on an enormous scale. When the mail-in ballots come in a week later and 99% of them are for Biden they'll say "see! It's matching the polls! we're not cheating, you're just losing!".
Yep. They’ll say it is consistent with our recklessness to vote in person because we go to rallies and don’t wear masks. And Biden voters wisely stay at home to flatten the curve and mail their ballots in. The media will run with this.
They can't fake that many. Each precinct only has a small amount of room to fudge the numbers.
The reality is that they know they're going to lose, and when the numbers are wildly off they'll say Trump is the one who cheated. They lose the Senate and lose ground in the house they will only have this "illegitimacy" in their quiver to resist Trump's next term.
We have zero information about what's really going on. All i know is that I'm voting TRUMP and Republican all the way because my life depends on it. I'm not going to worry too much about what the truth is about others' sentiments because i can't do much more about that now. We opened our wallets for team Trump, we door-knocked, and now it's time to vote. Please don't be depressing me, I'll vote anyways.
What's crazy is these idiots that do national polls know that Hillary only ended up +2 nationally, but somehow maintain that Biden is +12.
So, instead of looking in the mirror and saying "our polls must be off, a 10 point swing is literally impossible", they go "ohh look, Trump is finished!".
Here's some real data that proves we're on track for a win:
The #1 Key Demo that hates Trump is people under 24 years of age. In 2016 these people were 16% of the electorate. This time around they're 14% of the electorate based on the available data we have on who's already registered to vote next month.
That's a 2% reduction in the "Orange Man Bad" demo.
Just go out and vote... everyone in this forum needs to vote, and we will win.
I play an apolitical and apathetic average Joe in real life. In the privacy of my own home, I shit post on here all day and watch Trump whenever he's on TV.
Same. This is my political persona. Not one whit of that leaks out into real life, with the exception of the voting booth.
As far as the rest of the world, my family, etc is concerned I'm a moderate Yang fan annoyed that Bernie got shafted who will be voting for Joe because fuck drumpf lmao.
Just know that cheating only works within statistical proven mathematics, They can't magically find a van with only 50000 Biden votes, it would be an impossibility based on actual laws of mathematics. It is worth paying attention to and monitoring for sure, but they can't just pull only one candidates votes out of their ass.
And there are many more Trump flags in places where you normally wouldn’t be seeing them this time, like in Massachusetts. 4 years ago, those flags wouldn’t have been there
And most likely more Trump signs that would be out there if the owner didn't have to worry about "mostly peaceful" leftists defacing their property and/or assaulting them for daring to disagree with The Right Side Of History(tm).
How does me saying we need to fight with all our might this election and me noticing more Biden flags make me a shill account? This is the complacency I'm talking about
Are you fucking kidding me dude? This is a site meant for discussion. I don't have to blindly suck dick every single comment (that would make us like the echo chamber that is Reddit). Nice cherry picking btw, you'll see a lot of positive comments too where I actively engage on this site almost every day. But believe what you want because I am clearly not going to convince you. Have a nice day and TRUMP 2020
Finally, here is a great discussion with Robert Cahaly of Trafalgar Group’s which is a polling firm that nailed the 2016 election. They also point out many issues in the current polls and see a Trump win.
Trafalgar is legit, almost seems to good to be true, but they're better than Rasmussen. Their methodology is more sound, and reflects the actual voting populace. I don't see them mentioned enough.
I mean come on there's a ad with No names wife and Biden saying he would give Biden his support if he was alive. I mean run away as fast as you can. That smells of desperation. If your a lib and you can live with a dead warmonger throwing his support behind Biden. You need your head examined
At this point, more people have heard Bernie Sanders speak than Joe Biden. He's run the most bizarre, ineffectual campaign I've ever seen, and his gaffes and senior moments are being commented on now by libs in my social media.
And this is why it is just as important to ignore polls this time as it was in 2016. Dems are oversampled in the polls on purpose. Just get out and vote, preferably in-person if you can.
I saw a great quote the other day - "EVERY SINGLE METRIC other than polls is in Trump's favor. Enthusiasm, crowds, signs, registrations, etc. These are hard numbers that can't be manipulated. Polls are the one source that can be heavily manipulated."
Just saw the deep dive into the Rasmussen recent Polling DATA - where Biden was up BIG....
in the data set they predicted only 76% of Republicans would vote for Trump. No explanation. Trump has had high 80's support ' as high as 94% in one poll of republicans... since day one...
The lowest level 'EVER' that republicans voted for their own guy was Bush 1 at 73%.. that was 1992 and Ross Perot took a ton of votes from both sides.
Who ever did the math and the stats on that poll -
Nice sleuthing pede. I think the lower percentage there is just patriots not letting on they support Trump due the fear of reprisal (antifa etc.). Maybe wise to keep cards close to chest or even mislead in these times.
This. He’s been at 90+% for a long time and NOW he dropped, huh? And not just dropped but sunk like a stone among Republicans? What a joke. Who the fuck would those people vote for then? A useless third party? No one? They’re assuming that the 14-20% drop of people will vote for Biden? Give me a break.
THEY WANT DEMS TO KEEP DONATING - BECAUSE IF THEY SHOW BIDEN DOWN 10... NO DEM WILL DONATE TO A LOST CAUSE... AND THE DEM VOLUNTEERS WILL DRY UP.
AND OF COURSE, LIKE CLOCK WORK, EVERY ELECTION CYCLE, THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO DEMORALIZE REPUBLICAN VOTERS....'IT'S OVER, NO REASON TO EVEN VOTE - YOUR GUY HAS LOST...- STOP CAMPAIGNING - CERTAINLY STOP DONATING...
THEN THE LAST POLL OF THE CYCLE THEY WILL QUICKLY 'RIGH THE SHIP' AND SHOW TIGHTENING POLL NUMBERS AND TRUMP AHEAD IN SOME STATES... THEY DO THIS ALL THE TIME SINCE 1980 AT LEAST.
This just proves how fascist the left is. Trump didn't make up 95% ground. His supporters were just afraid to speak up. Now even more so. That's why you see huge crowds - strength in numbers, but low support when someone is asked one-on-one.
It is the EXACT same playbook as last time, only now they´ve basically given up completely on campaigning. Which is in itself ridiculous beyond belief.
I wonder what the excuse of the pollster will be after the election. They didn´t look great after hilldog lost.
yeah but what they're hoping people will do is blame Trump because "hes been President his whole time, and any downturn is his fault" (even if some other people literally caused it with lockdowns and continued overreaction to a flu)
Yeah I think the fraud is going to be on a scale we couldn't even imagine. They aren't going to fraud just a little. They are going to go all out considering the DOJ has proved they will let the dems do anything including a coup.
for those saying this isnt 2016 all over again, this is literally 2016 all over again. the fake suppression polls coming out in the weeks before election day trying to convince people that Biden is somehow running away with it despite no enthusiasm or crowds at his events and desperate to convince you that Trump made some major mistake and lost a whole lot of support.
It's not 2016 again, it's 2020. They've learned and prepared over the time since elapsed. Who care about the polls, I care about the election results. And I'd wager that's what the Democrats are focusing on too, including winning illegitimately if necessary.
I assume anything anti trump is fake news propaganda by default these days and i am usually right.
I normally browse reddit which is 99% anti trump city and everything there is misrepresented in some way to promote their agenda or just straight up lying.
These poll articles are not there to give you the facts. They are there to force feed you their opinion. Always do your own research folks and get the full context and source material of whatever article you read.
They are there to force feed you their opinion.
More accurately, they are there to feed you the results someone paid for. Pollsters are conmen. They sell snake oil. You want the worst Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates to poll better than the most popular candidates ever? Well, we have a price for that.
The pollsters are making bank this year, like they do every election year.
This dude will break it down nerd-style and show you how and why all the polls were off 4 years ago, and how they're all making the same mistake this year.
I think the biggest mind-blowing, brain melting take he had was this:
You cannot compare this year's polling to election results 4 years ago. You compare election results to election results, and polling has to be compared to the exact same poll conducted by the exact same people using the same methodology, the same questions, and during the exact same week of the year.
If you do that, if you compare polling vs polling, and not polling vs results, you'll soon realise we're in for a win again.
At least Killary was an almost-decent candidate who could string a few sentences together, even though she took campaign money from OPEC countries who kill homosexuals but "claimed" she was 100% pro-Green energy.
What is the formula that these "experts" use to come up with these odds of winning? Nate Silver had success up until 2016, he's doubling down this year. Are they using the aggregate of the polling? If so, the oversampling of Democrats makes the polling ridiculous. They are also assuming that more Democrats are voting for sleepy Joe than actually will.
It should be illegal for these people to lie and gaslight the public in order to influence the results of an election. This is not a free speech matter. They simply want to demoralize Trump supporters into staying home.
If they wanted to motivate voters, they'd make it much closer than this. I think both this time and last time its an attempt to imply illegitimacy on Trump's presidency/
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Selfpromotion.. selling some trump coins
Stealing credit card numbers*
Hell, why steal them; here's a bunch for whoever wants em:
8,4,6,3,5,1,7,2,0,9. They all use the same numbers!
Can I purchase a 5, 9 and 2? Willing to sell my second-born child for those three.
O'er the wall with you.
Deport this motherfucker
This fake poll shit is just getting annoying. I don’t know why the hell we can’t get decent polls from any outfit!
Half the pollsters are in on the plan to manufacture a win/narrative for cheating. The other half are calling Pedes and asking “hi I am with MSM, this is anon but verify your address and tell me who you are voting for”
You wanna tell some Antifa sympathizer you’re Full MAGA? Nope.
Exactly correct
Smart. As for me, I don't do polls.
I'm a silent majority type.
Who called you? Which group?
I even registered as a democrat this election for the chance to vote against Bernie in the Primary.
Betting sites are a good 'poll' although is not looking good for Trump either.
They're good if you can assume people are rational. TDS throws a spanner in the works there.
Spanner? Which English colony did you used to be a part of fellow pede?
No colony at all*. The original Blighty.
(*Unless you count the Spanish, the Celts, the Angles, the Saxons, the Jutes, the Vikings, the Romans, the French and probably half a dozen others).
Ah well in that case, carry on. And do keep up the pressure on Downing Street to restore Britain to glory.
I don't live there anymore. I did cheer when Brexit went through though.
Predict it is trending the same (kinda) as it did in ‘16 so they must be making odds on the same info. They don’t care a whole lot frankly who wins anyhow. They get their cut.
Predict it doesn't make the odds; their traders do. If you think, as I do, that Trump is more than 36% likely to win then you can, as I did, purchase $1 Biden-no contracts at 36 cents each. And this will drive the price up...
And how did the betting look in 2016? Wasn't it the exact same thing?
Worse, IIRC. Trump trading below ten cents. Some people made bank.
The bookies know when a fix is in.
Betting sites were for Hillary in '16, too. A lot of degenerate gamblers and Libs lost their shirts.
They were against Trump in 2016 too iirc. One even paid out for Hillary winning before the election (as a publicity stunt, though).
This aint our first rodeo, pawtnah.
Why are you scared, we have guns.
I can’t be awake 24/7 to watch for a mob to show up with molotovs. If violence is unavoidable, I would rather engage on my terms on my own time if given the option.
-some guy
-some other guy
Scott Adams? Is that you?
My thoughts too...
Adams isn’t wrong though, is he?
No.
But I have been an 18yo Mongolian African American female independent voting democrat for years when they call, drives wife crazy.( 50+ yo Cajun male) but hey they made the rules.
I enjoy taking the surveys. I get to “identify” however I am feeling at the moment. Always voting Dem. ticket. I tend to be gay African American super lib. I am so ridiculous that it feels unbelievable. But in the American left I am just another man in their echo chamber saving the planet from the boogey man named Republican.
Your Gayness wins have a vote
I'm not silent !
It's so if they win with all the scam ballots, they'll just say "the polls were right".
Almost everything in the media is a propagandist lie.
Just like last time.
Almost? I swiped through about 30 articles on MSN and every last one was bs, its pathetic
In a recent Rasmussen Likely Voter poll - they predicted only 76% of Republicans would vote for Trump...
That has to be a massive lie...
done ONLY to keep the race tight enough so that 'BIG MONEY DONORS' would keep sending Joe the Big. money...
And to 'dissuade' Republicans from even voting... because it can be demoralizing to hear Trump is down by 9.... AND THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT.
TO DEMORALIZE OUR SIDE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
There is no other explanation.
BUT IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN....
MAGA 2020
Didn't he have 95% support? Do you mean to tell me he's lost 20 points?
Only to make the POLL "sound good" for Biden.
They're doing this to prepare us for fraud on an enormous scale. When the mail-in ballots come in a week later and 99% of them are for Biden they'll say "see! It's matching the polls! we're not cheating, you're just losing!".
I know they will try this, but how will they convince normies that statistically impossible mail-in totals are legit?
Yep. They’ll say it is consistent with our recklessness to vote in person because we go to rallies and don’t wear masks. And Biden voters wisely stay at home to flatten the curve and mail their ballots in. The media will run with this.
They still cannot do this to a large extent, the mathematics of statistics will make it in impossibility to do it within a 5% margin either way.
Anyone who understands statistics is already on the Trump train.
The same way they did in '18 midterms.
Convince? They will just state.
There was an ABC/WaPo poll recently that said 70% of mail in votes are for Biden this election.
From ABC and WaPo...oh well, there you go. No partisanship at all from that camp.
The only investigative journalism nowadays comes from the independent ones.
They can't fake that many. Each precinct only has a small amount of room to fudge the numbers.
The reality is that they know they're going to lose, and when the numbers are wildly off they'll say Trump is the one who cheated. They lose the Senate and lose ground in the house they will only have this "illegitimacy" in their quiver to resist Trump's next term.
After all, he IS
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I don't think that there's a username that can check out more than this one.
Meh he's still behind Hillary.
I remember watching the same number completely reverse on them. Assholes never learn.
Watching the Young Turks track it over the course of the 2016 election night is still hilarious.
Still the best election night compilation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9bxaOTmN0c&ab_channel=Valposteve
https://twitter.com/SunshineSt8Sam/status/1315120039432007680?s=19
For people who haven't seen this one yet.
We have zero information about what's really going on. All i know is that I'm voting TRUMP and Republican all the way because my life depends on it. I'm not going to worry too much about what the truth is about others' sentiments because i can't do much more about that now. We opened our wallets for team Trump, we door-knocked, and now it's time to vote. Please don't be depressing me, I'll vote anyways.
Just follow this dude https://www.youtube.com/c/PeoplesPunditDaily
He's got information.
If you're a stat nerd, you'll love his channel.
If you don't have time for that, he's predicting a Trump landslide.
Thanks, looks interesting!
Interesting.
Is he though? From what I am reading, he sees a tight race.
Trump wins FL, NC, AZ, PA but drops MN, MI, WI
You're making the mistake everyone makes when comparing polls. He explained it in his last live stream yesterday.
You have to compare this week's polls to the same poll conducted by the same people, in the same way, on the same week of October in 2016.
Comparing this week's polls to election results is ill advised.
So, when comparing to his same polls from 4 years ago, Biden's lead is smaller than Hillary's at this same point before Election Day.
Got it. Just gotta pray for a turnout amongst us Trump supporters!
What's crazy is these idiots that do national polls know that Hillary only ended up +2 nationally, but somehow maintain that Biden is +12.
So, instead of looking in the mirror and saying "our polls must be off, a 10 point swing is literally impossible", they go "ohh look, Trump is finished!".
Here's some real data that proves we're on track for a win:
The #1 Key Demo that hates Trump is people under 24 years of age. In 2016 these people were 16% of the electorate. This time around they're 14% of the electorate based on the available data we have on who's already registered to vote next month.
That's a 2% reduction in the "Orange Man Bad" demo.
Just go out and vote... everyone in this forum needs to vote, and we will win.
Did you see the tens of thousands of lower enthusiasm screaming "WE LOVE YOU! WE LOVE YOU!" at the rally last night?
LOL
I don’t know what universe you’d have to live in to think enthusiasm is lower, but it isn’t this one.
Not to troll, but you're so concerned.
I believe concern is warranted due to the cheating, but what he is trying to portray is laughable.
We have lower enthusiasm? Rallies as good as ever, this site continues to grow and people are becoming more bold in a lot of ways.
Dude needs to realize that just because the left has intimidated the country into silence doesn't mean we aren't silently enthusiastic.
I play an apolitical and apathetic average Joe in real life. In the privacy of my own home, I shit post on here all day and watch Trump whenever he's on TV.
Same. This is my political persona. Not one whit of that leaks out into real life, with the exception of the voting booth.
As far as the rest of the world, my family, etc is concerned I'm a moderate Yang fan annoyed that Bernie got shafted who will be voting for Joe because fuck drumpf lmao.
Just know that cheating only works within statistical proven mathematics, They can't magically find a van with only 50000 Biden votes, it would be an impossibility based on actual laws of mathematics. It is worth paying attention to and monitoring for sure, but they can't just pull only one candidates votes out of their ass.
At this point, I wouldn't put it past them to sit there filling in fake ballots in full-view of all.
You can salt it with Trump ballots disproportionately.
They already have over 100% votes to voters registered in some places, which is not right.
You guys are laughably bad at this.
Oh yeah, because rally’s with 20,000+ people is a strong sign of lack of enthusiasm.
Don't get complacent folks. I am seeing a lot more signs/flags and vocal support for Biden in my semi-rural area that used to be just Trump country.
We gotta give this election our all
And there are many more Trump flags in places where you normally wouldn’t be seeing them this time, like in Massachusetts. 4 years ago, those flags wouldn’t have been there
And most likely more Trump signs that would be out there if the owner didn't have to worry about "mostly peaceful" leftists defacing their property and/or assaulting them for daring to disagree with The Right Side Of History(tm).
time to start boobie trapping again lol
yup. have seen that too. maybe it will even out
How does me saying we need to fight with all our might this election and me noticing more Biden flags make me a shill account? This is the complacency I'm talking about
Are you fucking kidding me dude? This is a site meant for discussion. I don't have to blindly suck dick every single comment (that would make us like the echo chamber that is Reddit). Nice cherry picking btw, you'll see a lot of positive comments too where I actively engage on this site almost every day. But believe what you want because I am clearly not going to convince you. Have a nice day and TRUMP 2020
Good one, take an upvote. Have fun fighting more of your own instead of making this happen in november
Sadly I’ve seen it too. Rural areas here in Ohio have a lot more Biden signs than they did Hillary ones.
However, there’s also more Trump signs than there were in ‘16, too.
It's nonsense. Here is a breakdown of 4 of those polls and the dodgy methodology.
https://youtu.be/5xJ04TdmxcU
Here is a more recent take on the issue by Steve Deace
https://youtu.be/V-RAJpdojhk?t=1123
Finally, here is a great discussion with Robert Cahaly of Trafalgar Group’s which is a polling firm that nailed the 2016 election. They also point out many issues in the current polls and see a Trump win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UlezIniwBU
All worth a watch. Smells like 2016 all over again.
Trafalgar is legit, almost seems to good to be true, but they're better than Rasmussen. Their methodology is more sound, and reflects the actual voting populace. I don't see them mentioned enough.
I mean come on there's a ad with No names wife and Biden saying he would give Biden his support if he was alive. I mean run away as fast as you can. That smells of desperation. If your a lib and you can live with a dead warmonger throwing his support behind Biden. You need your head examined
They could have removed the "if he was alive" part for a lossless compression of data. Dead people voting D is, after all, traditional.
At this point, more people have heard Bernie Sanders speak than Joe Biden. He's run the most bizarre, ineffectual campaign I've ever seen, and his gaffes and senior moments are being commented on now by libs in my social media.
Asking for an early life check on Slisco and Tamman.
For a friend of course.
We’re going to beat this. I am electric with the energy.
The only question is if they’ll surrender in time to spare themselves.
And this is why it is just as important to ignore polls this time as it was in 2016. Dems are oversampled in the polls on purpose. Just get out and vote, preferably in-person if you can.
They are trying the same thing again...expecting different results. Definitely insane.
How can dems keep raking in money if it’s “hopeless”? Strategy is obvious.
Laundering in that sweet BLM white-guilt money
Yeah, that rally last night definitely disproves that. I heard there was a real big line and people in Florida only had 48 hours notice.
I saw a great quote the other day - "EVERY SINGLE METRIC other than polls is in Trump's favor. Enthusiasm, crowds, signs, registrations, etc. These are hard numbers that can't be manipulated. Polls are the one source that can be heavily manipulated."
That’s a great point! I’ll have to remember to use this line next time
After 2016, I really, truly thought the whole world would laugh at polls for the rest of my life. Yet here they are.
Oh I've seen this episode before
In other words, "TRUMP TWICE AS LIKELY TO WIN THIS TIME!"
Just saw the deep dive into the Rasmussen recent Polling DATA - where Biden was up BIG....
in the data set they predicted only 76% of Republicans would vote for Trump. No explanation. Trump has had high 80's support ' as high as 94% in one poll of republicans... since day one...
The lowest level 'EVER' that republicans voted for their own guy was Bush 1 at 73%.. that was 1992 and Ross Perot took a ton of votes from both sides.
Who ever did the math and the stats on that poll -
'is lying.'
Nice sleuthing pede. I think the lower percentage there is just patriots not letting on they support Trump due the fear of reprisal (antifa etc.). Maybe wise to keep cards close to chest or even mislead in these times.
This. He’s been at 90+% for a long time and NOW he dropped, huh? And not just dropped but sunk like a stone among Republicans? What a joke. Who the fuck would those people vote for then? A useless third party? No one? They’re assuming that the 14-20% drop of people will vote for Biden? Give me a break.
THE MSM AND POLLSTERS ARE LYING...
THEY WANT DEMS TO KEEP DONATING - BECAUSE IF THEY SHOW BIDEN DOWN 10... NO DEM WILL DONATE TO A LOST CAUSE... AND THE DEM VOLUNTEERS WILL DRY UP.
AND OF COURSE, LIKE CLOCK WORK, EVERY ELECTION CYCLE, THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO DEMORALIZE REPUBLICAN VOTERS....'IT'S OVER, NO REASON TO EVEN VOTE - YOUR GUY HAS LOST...- STOP CAMPAIGNING - CERTAINLY STOP DONATING...
THEN THE LAST POLL OF THE CYCLE THEY WILL QUICKLY 'RIGH THE SHIP' AND SHOW TIGHTENING POLL NUMBERS AND TRUMP AHEAD IN SOME STATES... THEY DO THIS ALL THE TIME SINCE 1980 AT LEAST.
F's in the chat. It's all over...
This just proves how fascist the left is. Trump didn't make up 95% ground. His supporters were just afraid to speak up. Now even more so. That's why you see huge crowds - strength in numbers, but low support when someone is asked one-on-one.
Oh man. These polls are demoralizing me. I'm just not evem gonna waste my time this year /s
It is the EXACT same playbook as last time, only now they´ve basically given up completely on campaigning. Which is in itself ridiculous beyond belief.
I wonder what the excuse of the pollster will be after the election. They didn´t look great after hilldog lost.
Is campaigning super necessary in this election, where the country is so polarized that there are almost no moderates left?
"But Boss our tactic failed miserably 4 years ago."
"Its ok just chop 4% and sprinkle some extra waycism and antifa and shit this time it will work"
The economy predictions are bullshit for two reasons.
The economic downturn wasn’t Trump’s fault
It’s already improving in a lot of places
yeah but what they're hoping people will do is blame Trump because "hes been President his whole time, and any downturn is his fault" (even if some other people literally caused it with lockdowns and continued overreaction to a flu)
watch them try and say that the recovery after the lockdown is trump riding the coattails of obama and biden
Drumpf will never recover from this!
Well, pack it in boys. Looks like we're losing just like last time.
CAN THEY EVEN SPELL "WINNING"?
The tears are sweeter than my vanilla donuts, I love it!
In 2016 i ignored all this shit, i assumed Hillary! would win but voted TRUMP as if my life depended on it.
This year it's impossible to ignore all this shit, but i assume Trump will win and i will vote for TRUMP because my life depends on it.
Yes because the guy who has tens of thousands waiting for days in line to scream WE LOVE YOU! at the top of their lungs every time he speaks...
....always loses to the guy drawing ten silent, muzzled sheep.
Yeah I think the fraud is going to be on a scale we couldn't even imagine. They aren't going to fraud just a little. They are going to go all out considering the DOJ has proved they will let the dems do anything including a coup.
for those saying this isnt 2016 all over again, this is literally 2016 all over again. the fake suppression polls coming out in the weeks before election day trying to convince people that Biden is somehow running away with it despite no enthusiasm or crowds at his events and desperate to convince you that Trump made some major mistake and lost a whole lot of support.
It's not 2016 again, it's 2020. They've learned and prepared over the time since elapsed. Who care about the polls, I care about the election results. And I'd wager that's what the Democrats are focusing on too, including winning illegitimately if necessary.
I assume anything anti trump is fake news propaganda by default these days and i am usually right.
I normally browse reddit which is 99% anti trump city and everything there is misrepresented in some way to promote their agenda or just straight up lying.
These poll articles are not there to give you the facts. They are there to force feed you their opinion. Always do your own research folks and get the full context and source material of whatever article you read.
The pollsters are making bank this year, like they do every election year.
The only poll that matters is the ballot.
Everyone on this sub should subscribe to this YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/PeoplesPunditDaily
This dude will break it down nerd-style and show you how and why all the polls were off 4 years ago, and how they're all making the same mistake this year.
Thanks dude! Listening now!
I think the biggest mind-blowing, brain melting take he had was this:
You cannot compare this year's polling to election results 4 years ago. You compare election results to election results, and polling has to be compared to the exact same poll conducted by the exact same people using the same methodology, the same questions, and during the exact same week of the year.
If you do that, if you compare polling vs polling, and not polling vs results, you'll soon realise we're in for a win again.
We asked 1,000 Democrats who they would vote for and 709 said Biden
Even the fake news rates his chances as WORSE than Hillary!
Don't be cocky. Media is setting us up.
They'll either win by a landslide or we'll win and say we cheated.
Soo hes gonna lose harder than Clinton
bUt ThIs TiMe ThE pOlLs ArE aCcUrAtE
tHeY mAdE aDjUsTmEnTs ReEeEeE!!!1
At least Killary was an almost-decent candidate who could string a few sentences together, even though she took campaign money from OPEC countries who kill homosexuals but "claimed" she was 100% pro-Green energy.
When they say you can't make this shit up....yes they can make this shit up!
What is the formula that these "experts" use to come up with these odds of winning? Nate Silver had success up until 2016, he's doubling down this year. Are they using the aggregate of the polling? If so, the oversampling of Democrats makes the polling ridiculous. They are also assuming that more Democrats are voting for sleepy Joe than actually will.
After they double down on stupid, how can any one take these legitimately in 2024?
Hopefully Trump breaks the back of the lame stream media by 2024.
this time they are going to work harder to make sure it happens
It should be illegal for these people to lie and gaslight the public in order to influence the results of an election. This is not a free speech matter. They simply want to demoralize Trump supporters into staying home.
Meh, needs more Jeb!
Yes, if you say it enough, it will totally happen. That's how that works.
If they wanted to motivate voters, they'd make it much closer than this. I think both this time and last time its an attempt to imply illegitimacy on Trump's presidency/
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Voted yesterday in GA - 4 hours in line - mainly all 40+ folks... everyone looked pumped
Wow...4 hours. Hopefully that line of people was mostly Trump voters. Did it look like they were mostly MAGA people? Are you in a conservative area?
Yes it looked mostly like Trumpers - saw a couple of soylient looking neck beards but not many. Fuck the polls - landslide - November 3rd -