It is not a Libertarian principle to demand Open Borders. Unfortunately, the L.P. has been infiltrated by Globalists.
I want small government, and Trump has done a great job with making the government smaller. Let's see what happens with another four years of Trump/Pence!
Chapotraphouse fags invaded every libertarian community and started suggesting open borders. They did a large psyop and are still doing it in any libertarian community they can find in reddit and outside of reddit.
Yeah, it's kinda like how the leftist Neo-Nazis invade Conservative communities to conduct psyops. We just have to wise-up, and call out Commie/Nazi bullshit in our communities when it comes around.
It's a shame. Her position on the 2A is pretty great, but she ends up bending the knee to people who want the enemies of Communism dead. The last time I checked, Libertarianism is supposed to embrace Capitalism, hence why I embrace Capitalism.
I'd be much more for open borders if it wasn't for all the gov't handouts. The old USA, where pretty much anyone was was just rubber stamped in, but there was zero welfare, food stamps, social security, medicaid, or anything else. That attracted tough, rugged individuals who had to make it on their own.
And can you imagine how laughable a "lockdown" would have been in that era? People had to worry about surviving the winter. Starving was a real possibility. Americans today are complete wimps compared to their ancestors.
Open borders is a libertarian goal. And if we stopped giving free shit to anyone who waltzes across the border it could work. But we can't keep handing everyone free healthcare, food, housing, and jobs and expect to not ruin ourselves.
Not for all Libertarians. Maybe the Libertarian party feels that way, but most Libertarian Conservatives like myself would disagree with open borders. It's like I said to another pede, Libertarianism has a schism, like any other political movement.
Right, as another Libertarian Conservative I agree. I was just making the point that pure Libertarians would say they want open borders. I personally would like to make it easier to come here legally, but to also shut down all the stupid entitlement programs.
It's like any political ideology, really. There's schisms. Some have gone off like me, who identifies as a Libertarian Conservative, and then there's some who've stayed around with the Libertarian Party.
Thank you! I think the Libertarian Party is trying to embrace Anarcho-Capitalism, which is...an interesting hill to die on? I think if they were to drop some of the AnCap b.s. they could stand better in elections, yet, they want to try to drive a wedge in the Libertarian movement.
This is true. The freedom of movement is central to libertarian philosophy. However, this only works in a libertarian utopia with no welfare state. This could never be implemented in the US, because the gimmiedats storm the border not for freedom, but for freebies.
It is not a Libertarian principle to demand Open Borders. Unfortunately, the L.P. has been infiltrated by Globalists.
I want small government, and Trump has done a great job with making the government smaller. Let's see what happens with another four years of Trump/Pence!
Chapotraphouse fags invaded every libertarian community and started suggesting open borders. They did a large psyop and are still doing it in any libertarian community they can find in reddit and outside of reddit.
Yeah, it's kinda like how the leftist Neo-Nazis invade Conservative communities to conduct psyops. We just have to wise-up, and call out Commie/Nazi bullshit in our communities when it comes around.
Fuck Chapo, Fuck Stormfags.
Not to mention Jo bent the knee to BLM marxists
It's a shame. Her position on the 2A is pretty great, but she ends up bending the knee to people who want the enemies of Communism dead. The last time I checked, Libertarianism is supposed to embrace Capitalism, hence why I embrace Capitalism.
I'd be much more for open borders if it wasn't for all the gov't handouts. The old USA, where pretty much anyone was was just rubber stamped in, but there was zero welfare, food stamps, social security, medicaid, or anything else. That attracted tough, rugged individuals who had to make it on their own.
And can you imagine how laughable a "lockdown" would have been in that era? People had to worry about surviving the winter. Starving was a real possibility. Americans today are complete wimps compared to their ancestors.
Open borders is a libertarian goal. And if we stopped giving free shit to anyone who waltzes across the border it could work. But we can't keep handing everyone free healthcare, food, housing, and jobs and expect to not ruin ourselves.
Not for all Libertarians. Maybe the Libertarian party feels that way, but most Libertarian Conservatives like myself would disagree with open borders. It's like I said to another pede, Libertarianism has a schism, like any other political movement.
Right, as another Libertarian Conservative I agree. I was just making the point that pure Libertarians would say they want open borders. I personally would like to make it easier to come here legally, but to also shut down all the stupid entitlement programs.
Ah cool! I totally agree then! It isn't libertarian at all to argue for open borders lol.
It's like any political ideology, really. There's schisms. Some have gone off like me, who identifies as a Libertarian Conservative, and then there's some who've stayed around with the Libertarian Party.
Thank you! I think the Libertarian Party is trying to embrace Anarcho-Capitalism, which is...an interesting hill to die on? I think if they were to drop some of the AnCap b.s. they could stand better in elections, yet, they want to try to drive a wedge in the Libertarian movement.
This is true. The freedom of movement is central to libertarian philosophy. However, this only works in a libertarian utopia with no welfare state. This could never be implemented in the US, because the gimmiedats storm the border not for freedom, but for freebies.
Yup. Exhibit A: Sweden. Exhibit B: The UK Exhibit C: France
I rest my case, your Honor.