posted ago by FussBus
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I voted Trump in 2016 but he was convinced Trump had too many flaws and he voted libertarian. He wanted to vote as a block so I said if we're doing that, you voting for Trump has to be on the table and he agreed. We spent some time going down the list of candidates and I convinced him Trump was the best available choice. He was actually going to write in Kanye and I told him don't treat this like a joke. MAGA!
I voted Trump in 2016 but he was convinced Trump had too many flaws and he voted libertarian. He wanted to vote as a block so I said if we're doing that, you voting for Trump has to be on the table and he agreed. We spent some time going down the list of candidates and I convinced him Trump was the best available choice. He was actually going to write in Kanye and I told him don't treat this like a joke. MAGA!
Hopefully your husband will vote straight ticket Republican. The president needs help to accomplish his work.
We agree on most things, yes. He just wouldn't vote for Trump last time because of all the slander, I think. But I was able to convince him this time. :)
Fortunately for me my wife is just as based as I am. The family that MAGA's together, stays together.
Same. Entire family. MAGA flag out front of our house.
Ditto. Entire family is MAGA.
Same here. Extended family, too. But what else do you expect from a bunch of freedom loving immigrants that have seen this story play out before? They came to this country, legally, for a reason. My wife's family is the same way.
Damn, you're lucky. I have a lot of cucks in my family, it's painful. Don't take what you have for granted, pede!
Bro, you took the words outta my mouth. Based Polish legal immigrant family, here.
We don't want none o' that socialist/commie shit--We've seen it all, and the older ones/my parents have lived it, too!
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My grandmother passed away in 2017 after voting overwhelmingly for Trump because she actually survived the Nazis raiding her house as a child AND the murderously fraudulent Soviet election-takeover followed by 35 years of medieval peasant hell in which my parents & all my aunts & uncles were raised only to see the Dems begin repeating that history in her own lifetime. My grandfather, who was so very much like Trump, saw even worse things than my grandmother did (nearly died by Nazi hands at 14 for being a Polish Catholic that lived in a community that tolerated Jews) and absolutely would have voted for him had he lived just a few years more. If they saw what Dems are doing today, they'd practically march right up to DC to teach 'em a lesson while screaming at Dem voters "what the Hell are you fools doing?!?" Now, if that doesn't say it all...
As someone who knows these stories intimately & feels their lasting effects in what I was born to & the way I was raised... It is both terribly sad & truly frightening how easily the people forget & the masses are deceived--That they would make someone who survived all that see it come to rise again so quickly.
Great story and great family, pede! Everyone here too, with one exception. A mid 20's academic. Even he's not rabidly left. All the rest are based. I was just looking at Trump silver rounds as Christmas presents for a lot of them before I jumped back in here.
My family too, thank God! My kids, their Dad, my sister, her entire family (and her husband's side is huge,) and ALL of them are for POTUS. Plus all my friends that I know of, except one. And unbelievably my former big-time Democrat cousin! I still am amazed abt that .
Every last person in my family is MAGA too even my obama voting aunt (we won't talk about my mother who won't believe anything that doesn't come out of Lester Holt's piehole)
KEK, great quote
With all due respect, it’s time to grab your husband by the pussy.
Whose slander? Our boy only talks shit to people who start shit.
I assume she means all the fake shit that was said about him.
Oh, totally. I mean, I'd have voted for Satan McDevil against Hillary. Instead, I got to vote for the best president ever.
That's how I ended up with an early ticket on the Trump train. I saw all the shit they were saying and was like "no way there's a man this fucked up running for president" then I made myself watch a rally and thats how I became a superfan.
I didn't even like him during his tv show days and I went to one of his pageants when he was still running it. I learned to separate The Donald from Donald.
Have people's bullshit detectors just failed? It's crazy world out there for 4 solid years.
"OMG Putin has video of trump being peed on so he is blackmailing him!"
Uh, you believe that? Really? You didn't read that and find it hilariously ridiculous?
"Yeah, DRUMPH bad!"
It's really been amazing how much garbage the cancer has been throwing at him.
Tell him to “get in pussy, we’re making America great again”
If he wants the vote for president to count, then he also has to vote republican for the house and senate. Because if dems take the senate and keep the house, they will remove Trump and then voting for him means nothing.
This needs to be stated again and again.
Yeah, Trump winning and the dems gaining the senate = trump impeachment 2.0 before 2021 even ends. And this time, they'll get it. Over what? Anything they decide, clearly...
Not quite. Democrats would need a 2/3 majority to remove Trump from office.
Pretty much: "Tangerine Man looks kinda Cara Cara Navel Man today. Totally sus. Impeach him."
Assholes.
Dem Congress: We've impeached you
Armed Citizenry: Nah m8, he's not going anywhere.
If the last year has proven anything to me it's that "the armed populace's" guns don't matter, because views are so fractured that nobody can agree on where the line is on using them, or what is worth using them for. That line has been crossed MANY times this year and there are no groups willing to stand by and point tbeir weapons at the baddies and say enough, let alone fire. Wouldn't want to get cancelled on social media, you know.
The days of armed revolt by freedom-loving individuals is over. Armed revolt by communists is far more likely.
No, they need 67 senate seats
I agree 100% I keep asking libertarians I know why Trump isn't good enough for them & they want so badly to suck up to big government leftists. He's good enough for me.
I consider Trump to be the most libertarian president we've ever had. He's a real estate developer. He hates government as much as I do. And he's been fighting government his entire life.
Yeah if he doesn't get 80% of Gary Johnson's 2016 votes I give up.
He'll get more of the independent and normally apathetic types than he will of the libertarian vote. Every libertarian i know is retarded when it comes to politics, but they think they're just principled. Not that anyone really knows what libertarianism even is - no one disagrees more strongly with any libertarian than another libertarian. Watching libertarians argue is quite the spectacle. Those libertarian principles I can discern are just stupid af, like open borders at all costs and even when they can't get welfare cut to zero or close to it. One might even say libertarianism is insanity rather than retardation.
It didn't always used to be like this. Sure, there were splits within the party, but the majority usually went to the right of things. Abortion? That was a clear violation of the NAP, any Libertarian arguing against that was in the minority. Open borders? That was only something deemed remotely possible ONCE we rid ourselves of the welfare state, and it was obvious that HAD to happen before anyone even entertained the thought of dismantling borders. The philosophical differences within the party were fine. Now it's been totally taken over by leftists. Sad to see what happened to the party, but after they didn't run Austin Petersen I knew it would only get worse. I voted Johnson in 2016 but was rooting for Trump as I lived in CA at the time. Now I wouldn't touch the LP with a 10 foot pole, they can get fucked and vote for that BLM lady for all I care, we don't need them, they were never significant to begin with.
IMO the LP appeared to have been co-opted by anarchists after 2012.
So glad you agree with this. I know what libertarians are supposed to be, but in the real world these days, libertarians are pretty much conservatives who are afraid of winning.
They say they want to limit government interference, but at the same time, they seem to be fine with the Democrats' long slide of making everything illegal.
Disagree, they are democrats who are afraid of getting rid of big government.
For every new regulation Trump ordered two be cancelled.
He is a libertarian's wet dream.
I'm glad you convinced your husband but honestly I don't what logic he is operating off to have been on the fence until now.
I will answer your question for them: Either they personally benefit from CoC open border or outsourcing policy, or they are only libertarian as a way of being contrarian. In the latter case they do not actually care about policy outcomes, so any talk about practical politics is irrelevant to them.
Yep, the LP is now the party of sore losers and it's full of disaffected shitlibs and neocons now. Worst fucking combination.
All the people you mentioned (Mises Caucus) are good but the Libertarian party has marginalized and attacked them!
The people running the party and Jorgensen are not on the level of Ron Paul.
NO LIBERTARIAN WORTH ITS SALT IS PRO-OPEN BORDERS.
FFS we want PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. I want to be able to tell Muhammad I don't want him around simply because I don't want to write double 'm's everytime.
Private autonomy means OWNER CONTROLS WHO GETS IN AND OUT. I go a degree further: if you don't own land you're out and you're never getting in unless you buy land. And you will pay a fee if you need to get through my land to reach yours.
Absolutely zero sense to defend a open border policy if you are a libertarian.
Not an actual libertarian.
The first thing that defines private ownership is a fence. That is the thousand-year-old way to enforce property rights. Now whether you actually need a wall or not is debatable. I am sure that if you had an army heli squadron gunning down illegal border crossers on the spot it would solve the problem and a physical wall wouldn't really be needed.
You can only have libertarian borders if everyone in the world is libertarian.
Yup. Libertarianism is the conservative version of communism. Seems good on paper, but it’s not compatible with our Darwinian reality.
I became a libertarian because the party of McCain & Romney had abandoned its values.
I got on the train because I could see he was fighting the DNC, GOPe, & media establishment--and they were fighting back hard!
Immigration: It was never a strong issue to me, so when Trump made the case for border security, especially from a national defense perspective (one of few legitimate function of government) I accepted it.
Trade Deals: Some libertarians believe the only just tax is tariffs on foreign imports. I'm still in that camp. Eliminate income tax, instead charge tax from China's imported trash instead.
No. We have 2/3 of the country who is so low IQ they can barely read. We need to bring manufacturing jobs back home to give these people gainful employment. Fuck china. They wither and die without our commerce, and that's probably for the best.
Tariffs do bring jobs back home by raising the cost of foreign goods compared to American goods. And the jobs the remain overseas (fewer) are bringing in tax revenue.
When tariffs cause your your Chinese shit to sell for the same price as your American products, the reason to buy Chinese is eliminated and the factories come home.
All that remains in China or wherever else, are companies that have some other strategic advantage for being made somewhere else (besides ripping off Americans).
Tariffs are an America First policy (that said, I'm all in favor of negotiating for lower tariffs as long as the deal is far. You buy our goods, we buy your goods.)
But there is the bigger issue: libertarians do not accomplish libertarianism. They don't have enough representatives or judges or bureaucrats on their side to ever get what they want. They don't bargain or compromise (except Rand Paul). And they don't win presidential elections. Support for them is a waste even if you accept their goals.
Trump has said many times he wants free trade, but China will not agree to it. Also, he has tried to reduce the power of government wherever he can by regulatory cuts, but of course government is like a cancer that keeps growing. It's not a winning platform to say you want to completely gut medicare/caid and social security (which I would be in favor of to a large degree). If those things did not exist, then most republicans would of course be on the side of libertarians because there would be little for freeloaders to take advantage of (i.e., illegal immigration would be a much smaller issue).
Ladypede - good work. I am surprised with you being a Trump supporter it took this long for him to buy in. However, that shows you werent pushy or in his face.. you let him learn on his own, good work!
related to your story - I was at the gym today (remember Pedes, mental and physical health are equally important), and was talking to a regular gym guy I hadnt seen in a while about today's goings on. He said he's older than me (so he's in his late 40s, we'll leave it at that, lol) and he's never voted. But after watching the riots, the behaviors, the lack of Dem concern and leadership, he then started to pay attention to politics. He learned on his own about the truths behind Taylor and Blake, how the media lies and twists things.. etc etc.. he learned what Trump was doing and more importantly, had done.
He says he is now voting, and while talking, we were loud enough to be overheard by others nearby. They joined in on our talks, it was awesome to hear so many Pro-Trump/Pro-America people talking it up :)
A lot of guys do, which is highly ironic because women can often get what they want from a man by not doing that but they can't help themselves
I do not mean this as an insult but your guy strikes me as having the political awareness of a grill dad
Calling him a Kennedy Democrat is pretty accurate because the Democrat party hasn't represented blue collar Americans since JFK was alive. I say all this because I work in construction in god damned California and the only leftists I see on the job site are the occasional young person who either quickly changes their tune once they see those taxes, or quickly is no longer working at that job site. Union or non-union, everybody knows the score. If you ever doubt it just look at the graffiti inside the porta-potties. The only thing more common than dick drawings is QAnon posts
I'm not saying to confront your man with any of this I'm just saying that you should probably never talk politics with him at all since you might as well try discussing the Riemann Hypothesis with him for all the good it'll do.
You catch more flies with honey.
“Maybe I shouldn’t be butting in here, but you can catch the most with dead squirrels.” - Woody Boyd
Trump really needs those down ballot candidates, though.
This too! I used to think I could vote for weird third parties down ballot. That doesn't work, unfortunately if you like them or not just remember that every vote not for a Republican is helping the Democrats. I've yet to see a single Democrat candidate that I'd even think of considering.
If we don't like the Republicans then the time to deal with that is the primaries.
I like what Dan Bongino says:
I'm probably paraphrasing.
Yup, we've really got to stop being afraid to primary someone. Some, if not most are RINO phonies. I'll do my part to stop a D, but an R doesn't mean shit if they won't fight or stand up for whats right.
Bernie pre democrat was the best choice, then he bent over for democrats.
Horseshit. Bernie was never a good choice.
I'm a registered libertarian for now and will always be a libertarian at heart, but I'm voting this year the same I did 4 years ago. Straight Republic. Fuck Democrats and their commie supporters in the media. They need to go.
Our Liberty depends on it.
what kind of cuck has to be converted by his wife? Good for you though well done.
Why do women marry cucks?
For their money and emotional support. They fuck real men on the side or are too old for that now.
someone has to clean the pussy from the cum i leave behind after i finish pumping my bull seed
Was thinking the same thing lmao
No kidding. "Able to convince him", of what, exactly? Faculties must not all be there.
Cosco
if he was the kind of man that could not be convinced by his wife to do something he didn't want to do then he would have already been the kind of man that would have been voting for Trump in the first place
sometimes that's what it takes, for the woman to make the man realize he can be more than he is and to gently encourage him to become something more
some people use the Captain-First Mate analogy and the First Mate does not want to take command of the ship, that isn't their job it's the Captain's job, but if the Captain is drunk at the helm then what the hell else are you supposed to do? Some want to throw the bastard overboard and capsize the vessel in a blaze of finding herself, others try to help the Captain sober up before the storm arrives.
All that being said, glad it aint me.
Tell him he now can stand when he pees. J/K - nice job, ladypede!
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You were awesome in Ray Donovan, btw. Loved it. "I'm a feminist" LMAO
NICE!
In your opinion do you think most libertarians will go for Trump? Johnson got a big % last year in a lot of states and were going to need some of those votesz
I hope so. I voted 3rd Party in 2016 bc I felt that year either the libertarians or the greens should have been able to finally garner enough votes to earn federal funds. In 2018 I voted straight R which was a first for me as an Independent. This year it's Trump and the incumbent Republican congress critter.
FYI Johnson alone got 180% of the difference between Trump and Hildog in Colorado. Add in Plant Lady and McMuffin's votes and it goes to 264%. We're winning CO.
Many of them are democrats who hate socialism. They are torn on the inside.
The thing is last time around they probably got duped by the 99.99% chance of "meatbag will be the next president" so they had no incentive whatsoever to vote strategically and simply voted ideologically (on first-past-the-post elections the optimal voting strategy tends to favor a two-party system).
Now it's different. They know media got wrong last time and they might resort to strategic voting -- and I for one see most of them going R than D.
I think so.. he'll get at least half the voters who leave the Libs. The more conservative Libertarians won't stay and vote for the pro BLM/China loon they got.. she didn't even win the primaries straight up lmao. The lefty Libertarians will stay but that will drop them to 1 or 2 percent at best.
Trump's gonna get those righty libertarians then comes a good wad of the McMullen people. I think he will do fine.
I did the same. My husband voted libertarian in 2016 for the same reasons as your husband. I didn't vote in 2016 because I wasn't yet a citizen. Now we're both voting Trump & all Republican. He even joined td.win and he loves it!
If we get the libertarians who voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 then this race is already over
a lot of people don't understand this but Johnson pulled more votes away from Hillary than he did from Trump
Yup, know many Mexicans who vote libertarian but only support democrats and hate Trump. Keep saying how much they love 0bama.
vote libertarian
support democrats
love obama
my feel when
Fuck em. The Libertarian party is full of glowies.
Well Jo Jorgensen is definitely not getting the 5 million votes Johnson received. He received 3.9%. I think she will only get about 4 million and the Greens will get 1 million.
So far she's underperforming Johnson by a full percent. Seeing as how the Libertarian Party endorsed Black Lives Matter and swung left, I can see a +1% boost on our side. Anecdotally most people I'm seeing who are advertising Jo Jorgensen are former Democrats. That definitely wasn't true 10 years ago.
If Jorgensen beats my expectations and gets 5-6 million that's really bad news for Democrats. They've been going after the Green Party by removing them from some state ballots
Your husband is a cuck.
Your husband sounds dumb.
the husband was too busy using his tongue to lap up bull seed after he got fully cucked to notice
congratz on your husband finally getting his transition to manhood
Well done!
Nice job Lady Pede
For the maga ladies here with low test democrat bfs / husbands. Force them to tan their balls 15 minutes a day. They'll be republican in no time!
Congrats!!! My SO cried over Hillary for four days and now is red pilled and voting Trump. If someone has told me this 6 months ago I would have laughed. I live in a happy home.
I voted Johnson in 2016. I figured Trump would defer decisions to his cabinet & advisors. That plus his association was Steve Banon was a deal-breaker for me.
I was right about Trump deferring to his administration. What I failed to see was that he would continually upgrade his cabinet. His particular public booting of Banon opened the door to me. Trump was able to fill many of the promises.
Overall, I was wrong about Donald Trump, so I'm voting for him in 2020.
I voted for Johnson, too. I bought the media narrative but also knew Hillary was pure evil.
It took me until the Kavanaugh hearings to see the truth
Voted Johnson as well. Now I'll cartwheel through lava while playing underwater space chess to vote Trump.
He was not a white supremacist. I understood that at the time. Unlike Andrew Breitbart, Banon seemed only interested in his own career rather than the causes he claimed to support. He put a moratorium on Milo appearing on Steven Crowder's show. To me, that seemed censorious and I would have issues if Trump did act that way.
That being said, Steve Banon did understand the political landscape of 2016 better than anyone else at the time. I see now that Trump used Steve Banon exclusively for his political input. If that case was made to me I might have been swayed to vote Trump in 2016.
The Vote for Trump is vital to our country!
Please though, take the time to read the ballot initiatives and local judge / DA's and vote accordingly.
Just because something has an "R" next to their name doesn't mean they are MAGA.
/end Public Service Announcement.
democrats are all lawyers tho, look it up
fuck d, i vote R down the whole ballot
I do not want my President to be some type of pc moral leader. I want my President to be a tough son of a bitch that doesn't take schiff from anybody. None of us elected Donald Trump to be the fucking Pope 😁
trump is like batman, he visciously beats the shit out of people with his bare hands
I think 'The Fucking American Pope' is a well deserving name
What ever happened to Schiff? Feel like he's laying low as of late.
Your husband sounds like a bitch.
Congratulations ma'am, you're officially better than Kellyanne.
Great tell him no pussy if he votes for Sleepy Joe. LOL
He is lucky to have you. I hope he appreciates you.
Yeah but Kanye is no joke. We're sending him to the White House one of these days don't you worry.
if not trump, a vote for kanye is far from a vote for biden!
The problems I have with the Libertarian Party are their positions on immigration, rehabilitation for criminals, and foreign policy. I oppose illegal immigration, don't believe criminals can be rehabilitated, and believe the US should maintain a strong military.
I'ts definitely possible for some. They just need to put in the work and prove they have changed, unfortunately it gets abused to let out every tom dick and harry. I've met people who used to be felons and you wouldn't even know it. Libertarians are against never ending punishment that is impossible to escape. I've seen it happen to a close friend.
The criminals I'm referring to have personalities worse than your typical car salesman. They're calloused, manipulative, and believe crime is a viable occupation. They pretend to be remorseful to avoid culpability. I think it's a waste of time and money to attempt to rehabilitate such persons. Perhaps the individuals you've encountered don't match these criteria.
Kanye write ins are a troll job. DO NOT do that people. Be like OP, be smart. I got no problems with him but he is not a serious candidate. Let's be real about it.
I think the Kanye write in is a strategy between Trump and Ye to push a sizable chunk of the black vote that wasn't voting for Trump and probably would have voted Biden. They both look out for each other and it's a solid political strategy.
Eh I think it's far more likely Kanye was testing the waters and dropping his name in the media cycle around his record's release. Kanye and Trump both operate around the philosophy that bad news is better than no news
Trump colluding with Kanye is really dangerous because Kanye doesn't exactly hide his personal life. You could step on a landmine if that ever came out.
Great job pede. Trump 2020
Gave him his pants back huh?
Keep up the good work! My husband voted Obama 08, Johnson 12, Trump 16, and will vote TRUMP 20. He's just as big a Trump supporter as I am now. The 2016 rally we saw made him a hardcore Trump fan for life!
I made up my mind a long time ago I wouldn't date a liberal. No compromise there!
my current is a 1960s berkely free speech oldschool lib type
after her, never again will i tolerate the left!
new liberals/D are pure cancer
Good thing he wised up before you opted for convert a Trump supporter into your husband!
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I've converted my husband, as well, but sadly he doesn't have his citizenship yet.
Still better than another future leftist
Never cancel each other out. Convince every family member you know to vote Trump.
I can’t imagine being married to someone who doesn’t love Trump as much as I do.
When I met my wife is was politically clueless now she's a republican
Libertarian? You mean Democrat Lite?
Now we need Kelly Anne to do that.
100% admiration for your MAGA persistence...it's can be a steep climb!
Hopefully he grows up. People still figuring t his out do not impress me