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Seadgs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Remember that during this time period Communisim and National socialism (NAZI's) were just two flavors of socialism in direct conflict with each other for dominance.

spez: Just pointing that out as most lefties will insist they are polar opposites. They are not.

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bubble_bursts 1 point ago +1 / -0

They both had "socialism" in name, but its a real stretch to say they were two flavors of same thing. Going into this does not fetch us anything of value as far as arguing with the leftists, but is nevertheless interesting from a curiosity perspective only. My real point is that the economic policies of NSDAP and their military outcomes should be decoupled and one should not be used to demonise the other. Using Nazis to make any point is bound to be full of logic holes because our understanding of that period is highly warped.

Communists didn't care about any economic goals. Socialism was just a tool to bring about authoritarianism. NSDAP on the other hand had no option but to use real socialism to pull Germany out of the depths of economic despair created after the WWI with no sovereign assets to back their currency. So instead of being a tool it was the solution, at least at that point.

Communist socialism's fundamental tenet was centralised production and no private property. NSDAP on the other hand did not have either of this. Infact private property thrived and people started getting rich for the first time in a long time.

NSDAP philosophy essentially was - when there is no gold to back your currency, the work people perform should form the basis for your currency and it worked beautifully. People who are critical of federal reserve system and fiat based currency often agree that something else of real value must back the currency. Gold or precious metals do not have the flexibility to grow with the economy, but a currency backed by the labour of the people potentially could be the exact solution. NSDAP showed this works - albeit in a small scale. We never had the chance to see whether it scales or holds in long term.

The way I differentiate socialism under Communism vs NSDAP is Equity vs Equality. Communism aims for equal outcome (what the BLM/Antifa is screaming for right now), but the NSDAP system provided oppurtunity for those who were willing to work. If anything, their economic policies were more right than left.