posted ago by HeelsUpHarris ago by HeelsUpHarris +7 / -0

What if it is something that does require attention but the oil industry fund politicians like AOC and others to purpose ridiculous solutions so that we doubt and dismiss the topic?

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Dergy 7 points ago +7 / -0

You know how it's all a fake? Because their only solution for it is for you to pay them money.

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BuffaloReaper94 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was going to write a reply, but yours is too perfect. Spot on.

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Dergy 2 points ago +2 / -0

This idiot thinks that pollution is climate change.....smh.

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HeelsUpHarris [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yea there are many people who want to profit of it so sad that there is so much. Corruption but that doesn't necessarily mean that the problem is fake just that there are a lot of crooks trying to profit from it

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Dergy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Okay. I'll just ask you to put your thinking cap on, then.

How do you plan to solve the problem exactly?

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HeelsUpHarris [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't know I'm not smart enough to provide solutions on these topics but I'm sure that there are scientists without any politicial agenda that can it's just unfortunately that the whole topic has been politicised and corrupted maybe it is by design. I just don't think that we should fully dismiss the topic

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Dergy 2 points ago +2 / -0

So then why do you need to pay money for a solution that doesn't even exist?

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HeelsUpHarris [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Im not saying that there isn't a solution maybe there is I'm pretty sure that there are scientists that are being censored because they have solutions but they don't fit the "global criminal shakedown of tax payers money" agenda but we on the right are often quick to dismiss the topic. Maybe we should listen and share more information about it so that the censored scientists would feel more emboldened to come forward knowing that we will provide a platform?

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Dergy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's start simple. When somebody says "Climate change," they're talking about Communism, pure and simple. Why do Communists push this agenda? Well, because it taxes the air, the last free thing on the Earth. It's a CARBON TAX they're talking about.

He who taxes your air, your water, your land, your healthcare, he owns you.

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HeelsUpHarris [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I disagree with you because the problem can exists but their solution contains a politician agenda. Humans do effect the climate but the problem mainly comes from countries like China and India raising taxes in America won't change anything it would make more sense to increase import taxes on those countries who are causing the most damages and invest that into innovation like more advanced ways to clean up the sea for example if these types of solutions were written in the Paris climate agreement than I would be for it but it starts with acknowledging that there are climate problems and it isn't just all communism

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BuffaloReaper94 1 point ago +1 / -0

The models and "science" always turn out wrong, so what reason is there to believe that it isn't fake? The primary concepts are false, so you could pick just about any other theory and be justified in worrying about that, instead.

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HeelsUpHarris [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think that you are referring to global warming I also disagree with those studies because to my knowledge all those studies have been funded by organisations with a global tyrannical agenda. But that doesn't mean that humans don't affect the climate sometimes negatively there are villages where nothing grows anymore because of oil spills, rivers where no fish swim anymore because of toxic waste towns where there are many floods because they cut all trees, farms that can't grow crops anymore due to mosanto there are so many examples that do deserve more attention but it should be more targeted and there should be more awareness and funds for innovation and sanctions against counties that don't really hold companies accountable due to corruption. Also countries should focus on becoming more self sufficient so that there would be less need for flight and ship transport which results in less waste in the sea. It's unfortunate that so many on the right just dismiss anything climate related

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BuffaloReaper94 1 point ago +1 / -0

Couple of points:

  1. You're conflating pollution and climate change.
  2. My point is that yes, maybe humans do affect climate, but you're only thinking of it because of the scam. Maybe monkeys with cleft palates do far more damage than humans could possibly do. Or maybe humans help the climate. There are infinite possibilities that could be explored. You're focused on this one because that's the one that the people with the tyrannical agenda want you to focus on.
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HeelsUpHarris [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

pollute Meaning: contaminate (water, the air, etc.) with harmful or poisonous substances

Is it even a argument anymore that humans pollute the earth? I understand what you are saying that the worlds climate has been changing since it's existence and we cannot stop that but my problem is the lasting damage we are causing chemically and economically and pollution does cause the climate to change just look at China they have polluted their water mismanaged their environment & allowed companies to blow as much toxic smoke in their air as they want now they have floods, shortage of water and no clean air to breath

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CleanYourRoom 5 points ago +5 / -0

Anyone else notice that most of Hunters deals are with energy companies. im betting there is a connection between these companies and big gov contracts to develop renewable energy technology

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BuffaloReaper94 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't forget acid rain, the ozone layer, and the loss of the rainforests. I think we cycled through all of those before I was out of high school.

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BuffaloReaper94 1 point ago +1 / -0

When I make a reasoned argument with mature adults against the global warming hysteria, I bring all of that up. I'm a touch too young for global cooling (I was around, but a toddler) but I bring up The Clash, "London Calling," which, in part, deals with global cooling (I heard an interview a few years ago with one of the guys in the band, who said that Mick Jones (or maybe it was Joe Strummer) was absolutely terrified of global cooling).

Then, by 3rd or 4th grade, we were putting pennies outside of the classroom so we could see how acid rain was corroding them; by 7th grade feathered hair was the rage, and all my female classmates were destroying the ozone layer with their hairspray; by the time I got to college, wiping your ass was destroying the earth because of rainforests. Post-college, the ice caps were melting and NYC was going to be under the sea; and then we reached the much more sustainable "climate change," which just includes everything, so you're never wrong. It's an environmental crisis du jour, and you, you evil son of a bitch, are responsible for it.

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lumpster 3 points ago +3 / -0

This topic deserve serious and sober informef conversation, worldwide, but won't get it partly because some people in the industry don't want it, i think that's true. But the main reason is that it has been co-opted by America haters. Proof of this is their demands that we shut down all of our polluting activities while the rest of the world happily goes forward with their environmental raping with no regard for the topic. So now global warming is really just a code phrase meaning "America is illegitimate and must be brought to heel".

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Dergy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Prove climate change is manmade.

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Dergy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Climate change has been happening on the Earth before man ever arrived on the scene.

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grumpygarbanzo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Someone already mentioned that their only solutions involve giving them money, power and control, while we lose out on our freedoms.

Two other points convince me it's not to be taken very seriously.

  1. Every dire prediction of the climate change alarmists has turned out to be false. Every one.

  2. If Climate Change were really such an immediate threat, you'd think they'd embrace nuclear power which can replace many of the evil CO2-producing power sources. However, they don't and are actively trying to get rid of it.

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lumpster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hell yeah! If they really want to do it gen up the nuclear plants!!! Comparatively safe

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Belleoffreedom 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe climate change is Mother Nature's method of crop rotation.

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lumpster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Take a petri dish. Fill it with food medium. Introduce bacteria. Watch them multiply until they die in their own shit. Biology works like that.

The parallel fits with human population, particularly because of the amount of resources required to sustain it. There has to be some negative effects of this. However humans are inventive; And can change the calculus of impact. This probably needs to be taken into consideration. However, panic inducing cries of "muh global warming" And the limitation of distribution of resources to all humans is destined to fail due to the fact it virtually 100% compliance would be required even if it were politically possible to put into place worldwide. You remember from microeconomics that where prices are set Outside of markets, the incentive to price below that line (And swallow up all demand) is just too great. Costs for thee but not for me.

As I said before, the current conversation is nothing like this but it's just another way of saying "America is the root of all evil in the world and therefore must be expunged."

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Dergy 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's a Communist saying that says, "Repeat a lie often enough, and people will eventually believe it."

This thread here is evidence that that's still true today. There's no such thing as climate change. It's a hoax, another Communist Democrat invention meant to take more control over your life and institute the One World Order. Period. It's a shakedown of the American public meant to transfer ALL OF OUR WEALTH and give it over to Europe and China. Period.