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And why isn’t anybody holding Wray accountable. This is so weird.
And why isn’t anybody holding Wray accountable. This is so weird.
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And why isn’t anybody holding Wray accountable. This is so weird.
No. Never did. I have known a few FBI agents who were retired.
I wouldn't recommend them.
My brother in law and his friends want to join the military to eventually work in the CIA or FBI, they're all borderline communist soyboys. I'd have zero faith in want agency if they actually made it in.
Lmao, it's my wife's brother, I wish I could slap my MIL for letting the schools raise lazy commies instead of actually parenting.
Tell him he's a pussy for waiting for the wars to die down before trying to join. Then tell him he'll fit right in with the rest of the DNC's Paramilitary wing (the FBI and CIA).
Have you ever tried talking to kids in their early 20's, it's honestly no different from talking to 10 year olds. Actually there is a difference, they're fully indoctrinated with talking points from tik tok and other social media. They watch communist propaganda all fucking day and don't realize it. I'm 10 years older than him, but it feels like we were raised on different planets.
My step brother is the same way.
I'm 33 and he is 20 something.
We don't relate at all on anything and he is too worried about who he's gonna be able to stick his dick in for the night than what is actually going on in the world.
Ah, to be young and stupid again.
You can during CW2.
We're both closeted Republicans, we live in Manhattan.
I know how it is. One of my wife's brothers is a hard-right Trump supporter; the other is a hard-left dopehead.
Better yet, slap him and maybe she’ll see what a loser he is finally.
At least he won't have to worry about her having any children by him.
They do realize most of us in the military hate communist soyboys right?
The enlisted-officer divide is as old as time.
Does OCS or STA turn you old salts into tranny chasing, BBC hunting cuckolds or something？
No, mustangs remain based. Unfortunately, enlisting in a ground combat service is one of the few remaining routes to basedness.,
Not everyone makes it out of basic, especially at that age.
Vote Trump - then let's plan for 2024.
In the meantime, let's steer clear of Thailand.
I had a high school friend go to West Point and is a full-blown SJW on his social media. Doubt if his superiors know about it.
You have a duty to America son.
Do you know who to contact?
Not allowed to show political ideology. Meanwhile leftists officers create and enact leftists policies throughout the armed forces.
My feeling is, similar ISIS, these kids have all been brainwashed into believing this nonsense. Knowing then, they'd all bullshit and lie until they got what they wanted, kind of like they do with their parents. These kids have lost all regard for honesty and integrity, it's like a generation lost to identity politics and Marxism.
Honesty and integrity....those things seem to be in short supply nowadays.
Yea, that why they're trying to make us obsolete, there's no fighting going on, so they can join in reap the rewards without doing shit.
call them out in your social media like FB ect ect. sure you wont be on good standing with them. but maybe that will flag them enough that they wont get into any seats of power
Or they’ll be fast tracked in.
Aside from this and reddit I avoid social media like the plague, I spend my time raising my son correctly and working, like I'm sure most conservatives are.
I did some work with them recently. Every single one had a hipster beard and a man bun.
A lot of my new employees seen to be gender confused cucks, thankfully we're still allowed to for people for shitty performance, more often than not they also suck at their jobs.
These agencies attract authoritarians aka leftists. Because they are well known to allow spies to work outside of the law and get special privileges. They are the definition of tyranny. And all the movies make them look like heroes which feeds their narcissist fantasies.
100% agreed, I feel like if I were to get interviewed as part of his screening, telling them he's a communist would actually help his chances of getting hired.
All of the coastal elites are our betters. East Coast NY media, in your face admistrative federal agencies, FBI, CIA, Ivy league universities. The West Coast coast Silicon Valley media, Hollywood and their universities.
Fly Over people are the racist, sexist, homophobes that make the food, energy and products they consume.
Yeah their absolute certainty that they are morally superior is the driving force that will lead to genocide.
Screw up, move up. No one gets fired. Worst of the worst always get promoted.
It’s the same with any bureaucracy. Good people go to work there with good intentions. They move up in the “ranks” and get put in positions with more and more responsibilities. The ones that toe the line and drink the koolaid are the only ones allowed to progress past that normal ladder. The upper 30% are all part of the same good ole boy system and all have each other’s back.
NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. I would always get angry when Hannity would praise the 99% ... When none of these 99% did a damn thing to reveal all this corruption. Their jobs and pensions were more important than their "sacred oath". Get rid of them all and start over with a new alphabet agency.
I have a friend who has since passed away, but when I was living in Washington, DC he was a staunch, to the core Conservative, and we always made fun of Libs. He gets a big job in a government agency and I talked to him a few months later and it’s like they drugged him and brainwashed him and all of a sudden he is spewing out Liberal crap and would get wildly angry when I tried to get him to explain. The pressure to conform to the herd is super strong in the swamp.
I totally believe you, and it seems to happen to EVERYBODY ... No one is immune to this corruption infection.
Less than you think. Self reflection and examination are essential but rare. Even then, peer pressure is more powerful than people think and it's not just for kids. If you think you're immune to it, you're probably not.
One person is.
"GEOTUS DONALD J TRUMP
I'm personally going to have a field day when Hannity takes that stupid off on air and says he can't defend the FBI anymore. It'll probably never happen, but talk about high drama if it did.
Well said. Hannity is a corporate shill. Tucker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannity.
The FBI has been corrupt since the beginning. J Edgar Hoover created files on presidents, MLK, any one to blackmail them. For 50 years. It is systemic.
The FBI agents picture from this summer taking a knee in support of BLM, Inc. says alot.
No one came out during the active coup against our vote and our President. Especially with this Hunter Biden laptop--showing that the Ukranian phone call PDJT made was legit and had evidence to support his concern.
No way its just at the top. The fact that Sean Hannity purports that shows he's although not a direct swamp creature--he's been in the swamp air too long.
CIA, FBI in particular should disbanded. Completely. Give all employees no access to any other federal, state, lobbying, and now--no media jobs. Let them learn farming. I dont want them around any computer programming.
You have an intel organization that can gather intel on politicians. Why not just blackmail those politicians and force them to increase your salaries? That's how the FBI and CIA have been doing it for a long time.
It was a mistake to make these kind of organizations. They're the type of places the psychos love.
Yep. Another huge problem is that Comey connected the FBI to the Globalist ADL so the ADL could brainwash FBI agents against conservatives and """"White Supremacists""" (aka peaceful White people that don't want to go extinct and want control over their own government, instead of the Deep State running it).
Corrupt Comey wrote a cucky "love letter" (his words) to his Globalist puppetmasters at ADL.
ADL is also deeply involved in organizing AI-based censorship on social media, and is basically a mafia organization (it's honored members of the mafia).
I had a neighbor who was FBI growing up in NY, he was an organized crime guy (read, mafia investigator). He was very based, helped me a lot after i got out of the army in 09. He is absolutely gutted over this, retired a while ago, but it really damaged his image of who he was/is as a person.
Yeah, that’ll be a “No” from me.
Rank and vile.
I read some of your comments in various other threads and have just spent an hour reading your recent comment history.
Very interesting and informative. I particularly liked your take on war with China. We need more people like you.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. 99 is to high, but as I’ve said before it’s comfortably 80-75%. I say this because I know many rank and file who are supposedly not bad but they’re walking around with their “Comey’s homies” mugs. If after all this you still love Comey (he’s wildly popular at the FBI, only met one agent who doesn’t like him) then you’re a real POS.
Exactly. As long as they're comfy with their government gigs. They'll suckle at the teat of corruption and compromise their morals....but just until retirement. THEN they can larp about being better. Fuck them, they're complicit and deserve punishment.
Rules for thee, not for me! Tradcons and RINOs and LAZY republicans need to drop the rank and file shit before they quite literally kill our country.
Federal employees need to be made an example of. Across the board from the DMV to the post office. Rid these institutions of those who would subvert us, get rid of the lazy fucks who do the BARE minimum.
Time to clean house
Sounds like he should be vocal to people that matter, not his drinking buddies.
heyo
And NSA and CIA.
They are all Democrats with unaccountable power over others. That never works out well for the others,
Interesting enough I know some contractors for the NSA... amongst the smartest people on the planet in every regard possible.
The NSA is the only government agency that will actually listen to you.
Hahahaha, that is a good joke my friend.
Right. That's why they chose to work for the most anti-American agency in the country.
They can get fucked.
Not Bill Binney. You need to be more selective with your rage.
Quite literally one person. You need to be LESS hyper-focused. You're missing the big picture.
I don't think so. Scorched earth isn't a good long term plan. Who fills that vaccuum.
Nobody? Because it was an overreaching shadowy agency designed to give more control to the federal government. We dont need the FBI/NSA/CIA/ATF/EPA/
You've just been convinced.
NSA can’t be that bad if they put Admiral Rogers at the top...just saying.
Gov peeps ARE THE WORST and always have been! Even the lowly employees! Lazy corrupt wastes of skin! I worked for State of NJ and let me tell you Gov Employees ARE THE WORST OF THE WORST!
It's funny how when the incentive inherant in a free market is removed sloth and corruption creep in.
Taxation that pays for government is the opposite of a free market. Recipients of taxpayer funds lose sight of the accountability and need to optimally perform that you'll find in any free market activity such as a hotelier or computer repair shop.
Well stated, I wish more people understood this and how we have gone astray. Everyone is freaking out about big tech being more powerful than our government. Of course they are they have been allowed to become super monopolies that no longer have to compete in the free market. Why do our public schools suck and cost so much? Because they don't have to compete in the free market
Very true. Money becomes an abstract concept to federal employees. And when money isn’t a motivating factor anymore, guess what fills the void? Internal politics.
There is one major problem with government employment/employees.
Lack of accountability.
It manifests in multiple ways.
All government jobs are focused on spending taxpayer money. Not a single government job produces value like jobs have to in the private sector. Everyone in private sector, from the kid blending your smoothie at Jamba Juice to the CEO of Disney, is required at some level to earn their paycheck. They get money, and in return, they’re expected to make money for the company. This just does not exist for federal employees. There is no link between your productivity and your paycheck. You get paid based on a pay scale and not on performance. Nobody can make any more than anybody else, except through politicking to move up through the pay scale ranks. This attracts a certain type of person, and repels others.
Second, thanks to unions and convoluted hiring laws, you can’t fire people. For ANYTHING. I had a GS-9 one time who got caught smoking crack. Turned out he’d done it multiple times on shift or just before. Well, the local union rep was actively working with me to fire this guy, and it still took me six months to get him out of my office, and another six to officially get him off the books so I could fill the position with somebody who, you know, wouldn’t do drugs.
I could talk for hours about this.
Holy shit, you should tell bongino, rush or even Breitbart that.
Deep State corruption.
They should ALL be on 12 month limited term contracts and have to reapply for their job each year. As it stands it’s impossible to get rid of a bad dude.
Well this is a terrible idea imo because leadership is rotten and political to the core. Only way the small percentage of decent are protected from political leadership is by being hard for fire.
I'm going out to work on a job today outside. Cold and miserable. Because boss says it's mandatory? No. I'm the boss, I love money, and there is only so much time in a year to make it. Motivated.
Wife works for government now after 30+ years in the private sector. Stress and worry free. Relaxing till retirement.
Can do confirm, gov workers are the laziest in the country. To be fair, I'm sure plenty of people get hired into gov positions who are motivated and would be good employees, but management and the whole system is apathetic and simply doesn't care, and why would they when they are funded by taxpayers? They don't have to make a profit and their is no risk of being shut down.
I worked with a woman in the gov who I shared an office with and she use to knit half of the day. Scarfs, mittens, blankets, she had a while drawer deducted to knitting supplies. She said she would do work if she had any, but sometimes most of her day was just sitting around. Such abhorrent inefficiency and it's the fault of the leadership.
Sadly, yes. We need to clean house.
FBI is 99% good.
Hillary has a 98% chance to win.
Protests are 97% peaceful.
Nope, they were yet another FBM-driven “cell.”
Michelle is 100% a man.
99% of short putts don’t go in.
Sean Hannity left the discussion
Hannity strikes me as controlled opposition
but muh tick tock
I consider myself to be a 90s democrat. I'm anti-war for the most part, free speech fanatic, not big on big business, and I don't like the intelligence agencies.
Hannity is a 90s republican in my opinion.
The question is why did that political persuasions hire Bill Clinton?
Yeah. Maybe I should have said I think more like a 90s liberal instead of democrat.
I was a religious conservative until 2016. Nothing to do with Trump, but I let go of my religion while also realizing the cult of today's left.
It wasn’t a criticism, per se. I’m really curious. Like how did all those decent things end up with such a dirtbag. Was it just because he wasn’t a Bush? Was it because he seemed authentic?
This is the flaw of the two party system and Ross Perot split the conservative vote, ensuring a Clinton win.
The faggot wears a CIA pin does he not? He has turned off more people from the patriot movement than he has turned on imho.
Yup. He's either naive or controlled.
I think he appeals to boomers?
Am boomer, disagree.
Well if you’re on the Donald then you’re obv a not a run-of-the-mill boomer. My dad is really awesome in a lot of ways. Loves Trump. Immediately recognized his potential for greatness etc. Hates Tucker and doesn’t mind Hannity. Total mystery to me.
Tail end boomer, theres plenty of us out here. I left the republicans after Bush senior and have been independent ever since. Ive loathed establishment politicians in general and Trump has exposed them for what they are - corrupt sell outs.
I've been waiting decades for this very moment in history.
Maybe that’s the difference. My dad is very early boomer.
I’ve gotten really good at kneeling over the years.
Thank you Barry, very cool!
That's a fact.
Hey big boy!
Not in my book. Not now, not ever.
Check that picture again. Not a lot of "guys" kneeling.
My favorite is the whale. Fucking larpers in their body armor. How do they even make body armor that big??
Exactly why you don't let females into organizations as important as the FBI. Emotional appeals overrule THEIR OWN FUCKING DATA!!! The FBI data proves BLM is a lie.
Those fat fucks looked like shit.
Very disgraceful.
Corrupt leaders hire and mentor corrupt underlings.
A fish rots from the head down.
The FBI must be reformed not with a scalpel, but with a hammer. A big fucking hammer:
Fire the top 1/3 to top 1/2 of FBI leadership including Wray.
Take the pieces that actually function as intended and create new, smaller agencies around them. Discard the rest, including the Washington headquarters and field offices.
Ban what's left from having any permanent location within 100 miles of the capital. Turn the FBI HQ in DC into a museum depicting the horrors of state police throughout history and around the world. KGB, Stasi, Gestapo, FBI, etc. It's within walking distance of some great Smithsonian museums - perfect.
Smash them to pieces, collect the good parts, and throw away the rest.
Don't just fire the top 1/2, dawn raid them and throw them in the lowest dungeon underneath Gitmo.
They sat on the Biden crime family laptop while our beloved President was impeached for asking about Biden corruption in Ukraine.
THIS. Joe Citizen gets to enjoy 4am SWAT raids for far less severe crimes, why shouldn’t these clowns get them before their trip to Gitmo?
There is no constitutional provision for the FBI. They authority literally exceeds what law enforcement is supposed to be. The highest authority is supposed to be a county sheriff.
Point 2 is the real truth. Washington field office is a cancer on our country.
Roughly 10% of any group of humans being are going to be shit bags, and another 10% are going to be possible shitbags, meaning they will do shitty things if there aren't mechanisms in place to prevent it but if there are, they will abide by those mechanisms and not be shitty. This is for literally any group of human beings anywhere doing anything. So no, even under the best circumstances it was never going to be 99% being great. 80-90% is best case scenario. Given that the corrupt tend to always have a little easier time finding ways to weasel their way into the top of any organization that doesn't work tirelessly to remove them, once the corrupt are in charge, they tend to attract like minded shitbags and the amount of shitbags will rise considerably above the bare minimum of 10% and even past the 20% including the occasional/possible shitbags. The FBI has about 35,000 employees. I would not be shocked in the slightest if at least half of those were outright deep state Leftist zealots, as most field offices are in big cities and the FBI tends to draw its applicants from universities instead of seasoned street cops and detectives. Overall I would guess the FBI is probably about 20-30% good people, another 20% just indifferent time punchers doing the bare minimum to get paid, and the other half are Leftist radicals.
people who seek government prestige and jobs tend to fit a different profile from the general population.
I remember this at least extending into Bush/Clinton era.
I think your percentages of shitbags is too low. But they do tend to congregate and get themselves moved up the ladder, so it is difficult to estimate.
Cream and bastards rise to the top
That’s where you’re sadly wrong. 10% of people are leaders for good. Many more are leaders for bad and everyone else is a fucking sheep.
FBI is scum top to bottom.
"the laptop could have changed the outcome of a presidential election, therefore we his it for the good of the people"
It's like the DHS people redacting names of criminals like Hillary or Obama from important documents that involve them in a negative light.
"We redacted them for national security reasons, because if we didn't the public would riot"
Well maybe we would riot. Maybe that should tell you that we should on and you should prosecute.
I have 0 faith in the fbi. 5byears ago I’d say I had 100
The mask is off. We now see them for what they always have been. I have 100% faith they are completely corrupt and can not be rehabilitated.
I don't buy it. When this corruption goes on where are the good FBI people? If they were good they would do something. Best case scenario we have evil running the FBI and "good" people who are too afraid to do anything. I want my Federal LE to be brave and unafraid to face evil. That's why this organization exists. To Federally protect the American people by enforcing law. Not hide under their desks. Fuck them all.
What did the agents do when they became aware of a bullshit, politically motivated, "investigation" into the president-elect? Did they go to GOP ranking members of the Congressional committees? Did they anonymously leak the info to Trump's team or to a sympathetic press?
No. They took out professional liability insurance to cover their asses if their malfeasance was ever uncovered.
Fuck all the lives ruined over false allegations and investigations, right FBI "rank and file?"
I spit on the FBI
Interesting thing about professional liability insurance...insurers have clauses that nullify policies in the event that criminal conduct was the cause of a claim. 🤔
rAnK aNd FiLe
Used to be a cool thing to say you were an FBI agent. The best of the best? Not anymore.
The entire federal employee 'union' needs to be trashed. It is a Dem slush fund. Federal employment has become more of a welfare program that overpays incompetence. Federal employees are awarded promotions/pay raises for just breathing and taking a paycheck twice a MONTH. Federal agencies no longer care about hiring the best and brightest.
There needs to be a federal employment freeze along with a culling of the federal herd. No more automatic pay raises and promotions just for time served. Pay scales should be based on skills (what you bring to the table) not just being a federal hire. on Incompetence and bad behavior should be rewarded with a pink slip in a timely fashion. Retirement has seen some reform, but more should be done. No retirement income should be received until a minimum of 62 years of age unless there is a serious medical exception. No more federal double dipping.
Fuck em all. Repeal the charter.
The longer the FBI cavorts with our enemies, the more they make the Executive Branch look bad. Just shut it down.
Imagine being proud to go to work everyday in the J Edgar Hoover building. Chris Farrell is right the duties of the FBI should be subsumed by the USMS.
Defund the FBI
I think he is. I don’t think he has any intention of reforming them.
The FBI is corrupt, I seen a video of an antifa member saying the FBI is on their side to a group of people. Edit: I been trying to find the video for like half an hour, maybe youtube scrubbed it?
Not to give the FBI any benefit of the doubt, but AntiFA says a lot of things and we can't take stuff at face value from a random thug.
Anyone find it suspicious that the FBI arrested Bannon 2 months ago after he stated he had the hard drives?
Now that it’s clear they’re hired muscle for the corrupt politicians? No.
if the FBI were Mostly good.. I think we would of heard allot more whistle blowers sounding the alarms. To many evil men have been placed in positions of control at the FBI. The whole place should be shut down and restarted with hand picked patriots
" Even those hacks who we couldn't bribe would never rat on the guys who did."
I got a buddy who is ex-FBI. Ranks an file. He's a good dude. But he also wrote a book on how shitty the FBI is and the reasons why we got the fuck out of there because he is a good dude. And he's been gone 20+ years.
We are being way too optimistic.
However, one thing I learned is how useless most of the federal government is, and the executive branch is so corrupted, so huge, so overweight with beaurocracy. Think about how many positions exist just for a lifelong paycheck and pension and the employees for whatever division, department, or agency literally do nothing and collect 6-figure salaries, for life. With free healthcare and everything else. We're talking millions of jobs, held by unqualified people, in positions that aren't even needed and serve zero purpose.
We could eliminate 75% of these jobs tomorrow and eliminate the vast majority of these agencies and almost no Americans would even notice...it would have no impact on our day to day lives. Name the agency, that I just said applies.
The FBI is no different. There are of course some stellar men and women working in the FBI, who make a difference in their ideals and in their work. But like every other executive entity, it's overgrown, it collapses under it's own corruption. Wray, Comey, and the lot of them prove the leadership is criminal, without question. So while there are some good people working for the FBI, just it's very leadership and it's an overall structure within the executive branch proves that the good is few and far between.
Drain the Swamp, TRUMP 2020, Remove Every Democrat.
They definitely got too big and stopped being accountable to the people. I agree they should be completely overhauled and broken up into smaller agencies.
the swamp is deep and murky. The day after the election Wray needs to go.
They knew Trump was making a legitimate request to investigate Biden's Ukrainian dealings and they stood by concealing exculpatory evidence while he was impeached. It appears all they're good at is covering up the crimes of prominent democrats by gathering evidence and sending it into the memoryhole.
FUCK THE FBI
I would say truthfully it’s 79% good people...the rest of the bureau is a bunch of shitbags
Similar to "bad cops". If none are getting rid of the bad ones, can we write-off the rest as bad?
Well there is a key difference in that the FBI actually is one big organization that all works for the same people, has the same rule book, trains in the same place, can move anywhere in the organization, etc. There actually might be a way for the few good ones to do something about the bad ones since they do actually work together.
Police departments are entirely separate and independent. A cop in Florida has absolutely nothing to do with one in Seattle. A Sheriff's deputy in Texas has absolutely nothing to do with one in LA. There is no mechanism for anyone outside of one particular department to do anything about any police officer in literally any of the other 18,000 police departments in the country. None. So you can apply that "the good ones should do something" principle to officers within the same department, such as the corrupt and awful Broward County Sheriff's Office in Florida. But the problem is that once a department goes rotten, it's pretty likely the rot is from the top down, if there are any good ones they tend to quit and go work somewhere else, or they're isolated by their shitty colleagues and kept in the dark or relegated to positions where they can't see anything or do anything.
An FBI agent in Nebraska might be able to try to get assigned to the OPR and try to root out shitbags in New York (good luck with that though given how corrupt FBI leadership in Washington is). But a police officer in Nebraska has absolutely nothing to do with any police in New York at all.
One might call it systemic corruption
I've know better since the 70s.
We had a priest that was FBI during the war. When he tried to leave and return to the seminary to get ordained; Hoover threaten to hang him for treason for leaving. He told me there was only two ways out of the bureau....under hoover's thumb or ruined. Once he was out the Church protected him.
When a priest you respect tells you that an organization is shit all the way to its core, it carries some weight.
I've seen nothing to prove him wrong yet.
I certainly had a skeptical attitude before. More and more that has changed to a flat "no".
It always rang a little hollow when someone says "other than the rank and file" when we never have any leaks about the FBI for anything that could help the right and the country.
It always came across as, "oh no FBI agents A, B and C, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about certain other people, please don't make my life hell"
John F. Kennedy was right. The entire deep state intelligence apparatus needs to be destroyed and the pieces scattered to the wind
OP is spot on with this analysis. They're profoundly corrupt and this level of corruption goes so much deeper than just the political appointee level. I have no idea how deep it goes, but it's deep.
The FBI is just a cog no matter how big shit they think they are. Just another tool to be used and discarded by their masters.
Never forget that people will do what they are in, in fact, rewarded/compensated to do. A cop sees the world through arrests. The FBI/DOJ sees the world through grand juries and indictments. Lawyers see their world through convictions/acquittals.
The problem is when rules are broken and the checks and balances of the system go askew.
Not at all! We can thank them for all the school shootings
If your entire institution was founded by a cross- dressing closeted homo that cultivated dirt on all the politicians/ influential people of their time...and has largely maintained relevance through assassination plots and soft coup attempts...you may not be the good guys.
When I was little, I dreamed about being a FBI or CIA agent. I'm so glad that I never went to work for Cobra
Just need to look at how many in DC voted for Hilldawg. It’s all rotten.
I think the numbers are flipped.
99% are bad actors, 1% are good
There needs to be a GIANT clean sweep.
Yeah how come there are no whistleblower's?
I went through a local citizens academy with our local police department a few years ago. One of the presentations was an FBI agent from the local field office. She would barely answer any questions. Her vibe came off as someone who couldn’t be bothered with. Very unapproachable. It was a very stark contrast with the local cops.