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posted ago by Snakecasablanca83 ago by Snakecasablanca83 +2964 / -0

Long story. So bear with me but I think it's interesting.

I'm from Australia. So who the fuck cares about US politics right?

Well back in 2016 the media had me. I was a headline reader and would commonly say to people the likes of "Imagine if Trump wins! How fucked would the world be".

One day a guy from work sort of red pilled me in a weird way... He was a Pakistani and he told me "Who cares... We're not from the US. And they deserve it". It made me laugh (sorry pedes).

Now obviously he had an axe to grind from a Pakistani point of view but he sort of burst my bubble. Why the fuck would I care or stress being from Australia about Trump being president. I never cared before. That's when I realised the media had fucked me.

Anyway a couple of months later some barrister friend (had been having dinner once a week every week for several years) started ranting to me at dinner about Trump being president ending the world. I thought I could maybe help him and calm him down. Try and make him see that it doesn't matter that much. Long story short... We have never caught up socially since then. I've got lots of friends. And he was sort of a "single" friend and I'd just met my wife so while I was disappointed... It didn't stress me too much but it was an eye opener.

Anyway started becoming a Trump fan. Bet on him winning. He won but I learned for years to just shut up about it because people still really hate him here. And basically buy into the fact that anyone who likes him (or even doesn't hate him) is a racist degenerate.

Earlier this year lost another friend. Called her up during Covid to make sure she was alright because she is at high risk (cancer survivor). She started ranting about how fucking stupid Trump was. I backed off and was like "yeah he's got a hard job and who knows what the right decision is" and tried to be non chalant. She basically pushed me until she called me a "fucking idiot" and I told her that I'm not here to listen to her bullshit and to fuck off. She was a little bit of a "pity" friend of mine so was happy to fuck her off at this point.

Anyway feel I almost lost another friend lately. He's a good one who I don't want to lose.

Hes a smart guy. Professional, very educated and wealthy. He HATES Trump. But basically acts like he doesn't care.

So he'll send me "Trump is shit" articles or videos and then when I argue back he's like... "Ah I don't really care". But you know he does. At one point I basically confronted him about his attitude and said that his attitude was confrontational but it's not worth ruining our friendship. He backed down and apologised but I can tell he still HATES Trump and a part of that hates projects onto me.

It's crazy that the media machine is so powerful. That people in Australia lose friends over it.

Imagine being in the US and losing a friend over who the Prime Minister of Germany is.

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INSSABOFA 140 points ago +140 / -0

My question to Trump haters is Why? Not one person can give an answer besides calling him names

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tragician 19 points ago +19 / -0

Resentment is a powerful ally. Socialism is rooted in psychological envy and resentment. According to Jung, Nietzsche, and Orwell. The political philosophy has always been morally bankrupt.

I'm mostly reiterating what Jordan Peterson has said but

Envy and resentment stem back to cain and abel. They hate the structure of being itself for taking power away from them. So they are he'll bent on getting power back and it means at any moral cost. So they will lie cheat steal hate themselves for harming others, but they justify it by doing it in the name of 'good'

Ultimately it is a degenerate psychological dilemma and often the root of rejecting the patriarchy which supposedly is thousands of years old. Rejecting inherited values or the best psychological approach to things after thousands of years is degenerate. Hence why we see all this playing out with such hatred from people who dont have fatherly wisdom. Then according to Jung, we are projecting the architypal father on Trump aka Jesus. The highest architype of christianity.

Note : it is further a bankrupt philosophy because you must use force (theft) to make others do good. So the moral value of theft presides over any good outcome of any socialist policy. It's like lying , if you lie and something good comes of it, more lies build up..this is according to milton friedman.

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bingbongbang 7 points ago +7 / -0

It's almost funny, the power that comes from truth, too. If you live by it, or at least try your best, you are your own master. I mean, sure, you have those external factors that may bear down, but you know you've been honest and it's extremely liberating. So it's very ironic these people seeking power are seeking or achieving only an illusion of power. It'll ultimately crumble if it's achieved that way.