2964
posted ago by Snakecasablanca83 ago by Snakecasablanca83 +2964 / -0

Long story. So bear with me but I think it's interesting.

I'm from Australia. So who the fuck cares about US politics right?

Well back in 2016 the media had me. I was a headline reader and would commonly say to people the likes of "Imagine if Trump wins! How fucked would the world be".

One day a guy from work sort of red pilled me in a weird way... He was a Pakistani and he told me "Who cares... We're not from the US. And they deserve it". It made me laugh (sorry pedes).

Now obviously he had an axe to grind from a Pakistani point of view but he sort of burst my bubble. Why the fuck would I care or stress being from Australia about Trump being president. I never cared before. That's when I realised the media had fucked me.

Anyway a couple of months later some barrister friend (had been having dinner once a week every week for several years) started ranting to me at dinner about Trump being president ending the world. I thought I could maybe help him and calm him down. Try and make him see that it doesn't matter that much. Long story short... We have never caught up socially since then. I've got lots of friends. And he was sort of a "single" friend and I'd just met my wife so while I was disappointed... It didn't stress me too much but it was an eye opener.

Anyway started becoming a Trump fan. Bet on him winning. He won but I learned for years to just shut up about it because people still really hate him here. And basically buy into the fact that anyone who likes him (or even doesn't hate him) is a racist degenerate.

Earlier this year lost another friend. Called her up during Covid to make sure she was alright because she is at high risk (cancer survivor). She started ranting about how fucking stupid Trump was. I backed off and was like "yeah he's got a hard job and who knows what the right decision is" and tried to be non chalant. She basically pushed me until she called me a "fucking idiot" and I told her that I'm not here to listen to her bullshit and to fuck off. She was a little bit of a "pity" friend of mine so was happy to fuck her off at this point.

Anyway feel I almost lost another friend lately. He's a good one who I don't want to lose.

Hes a smart guy. Professional, very educated and wealthy. He HATES Trump. But basically acts like he doesn't care.

So he'll send me "Trump is shit" articles or videos and then when I argue back he's like... "Ah I don't really care". But you know he does. At one point I basically confronted him about his attitude and said that his attitude was confrontational but it's not worth ruining our friendship. He backed down and apologised but I can tell he still HATES Trump and a part of that hates projects onto me.

It's crazy that the media machine is so powerful. That people in Australia lose friends over it.

Imagine being in the US and losing a friend over who the Prime Minister of Germany is.

Comments (233)
sorted by:
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
9
lilree 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's mental exhaustion. The average person has a "headline-depth" attention span and tolerance for information, so by the time you've argued their point, they've reached the bottom of both their knowledge and attention span. They are ready to be entertained or distracted by something else. "Ugh I don't really care." means that you've exceeded the window of their information tolerance.

That's why things like humor and memes are so effective. Trying to logically deconstruct and examine their ideas in real time to show the average person their logical fallacies is going far beyond their trained capacity for information. They have been conditioned to respond to and digest very short bursts of information, thus memetic warfare is the key for normies. If you have more scholarly friends, they will be more worthwhile going deep on. They can actually last long enough to endure the argument in good faith, and they care more for the truth than partisanship. We'll continue scalping real scholars from the Left until they are naught but a concentration of extreme, low information zealots - and this is already occurring. High information is punished on the Left. The only thing rewarded is emotional solidarity.

1
Gumnut 1 point ago +1 / -0

Emotional solidarity - I like that