Scenario A: Most American politicians are honest, incorruptible people who always put America first and aren't in the pockets of their donors
or Scenario B: Most American politicians rabidly support Israel (regardless of whether it benefits the general American populace) because their donors pay them to
"Of the top 50 political donors to either party at the federal level in 2018, 52 percent were Jewish and 48 percent were gentile. Individuals who identify as Jewish are usually estimated to make up perhaps 2.2 percent of the population.
Of the $675 million given by the top 50 donors, 66 percent of the money came from Jews and 34 percent from gentiles.
Of the $297 million that GOP candidates and conservative causes received from the top 50 donors, 56 percent was from Jewish individuals.
Of the $361 million Democratic politicians and liberal causes received, 76 percent came from Jewish givers."
That doesn't mean every American Jew is some evil person put to get you. It does mean that most of our politicians are willing to sell out to the interests of a foreign nation because people like Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban pay them to.
In addition, stalwart ally is not the term I would use to describe Israel. They're a pretty lousy ally. We give them a quarter TRILLION in foreign aid and they turn around and sell the military tech we give them to China.
lol as if international politics is a binary choice. Name a better ally in the Middle East. Oh, right, there isn’t one.
We support Israel because we need a foothold in the region and they’re the best option and have been for decades. Do they want our help? Absolutely. That’s how alliances work. Are there big donors who want to maintain the relationship? Obviously, why wouldn’t there be when there’s also a ton of money spent by the pro-Palestinian movement? When you have Ilhan Omar and the BDS crap happening, of course Adelson pours money in to support pro-Israel candidates.
The United States currently has military personal based in Oman, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the UAE
It doesn't seem like we need Israel to be our foothold in the Middle East at all. In fact, our support for Israel hamstringed our relations with every other Middle Eastern nation for decades.
That’s not true, actually. Turkey is now an Islamist dictatorship, so I wouldn’t consider them reliable. Saudi Arabia has not been the best of allies, you may remember 9/11. Each of the others you listed pales in comparison to Israel’s military power.
You know who else doesn’t like Israel? George Soros. Everything you’re saying sounds a lot like the talking points parroted by the leftists that take his money. Why is that?
Alex told me that for many years, his father (George Soros) had not been eager to advertise his Judaism because “this was something he was almost killed for.” But he had always “identified firstly as a Jew,” and his philanthropy was ultimately an expression of his Jewish identity, in that he felt a solidarity with other minority groups and also because he recognized that a Jew could only truly be safe in a world in which all minorities were protected. Explaining his father’s motives, he said, “The reason you fight for an open society is because that’s the only society that you can live in, as a Jew"
There might be some dissent among the rank and file, but Democratic leadership is still very pro-Israel. Here's Pelosi and Schumer at AIPAC with Saban:
Which scenario seems more likely to you?
Scenario A: Most American politicians are honest, incorruptible people who always put America first and aren't in the pockets of their donors
or Scenario B: Most American politicians rabidly support Israel (regardless of whether it benefits the general American populace) because their donors pay them to
"Of the top 50 political donors to either party at the federal level in 2018, 52 percent were Jewish and 48 percent were gentile. Individuals who identify as Jewish are usually estimated to make up perhaps 2.2 percent of the population.
Of the $675 million given by the top 50 donors, 66 percent of the money came from Jews and 34 percent from gentiles.
Of the $297 million that GOP candidates and conservative causes received from the top 50 donors, 56 percent was from Jewish individuals.
Of the $361 million Democratic politicians and liberal causes received, 76 percent came from Jewish givers."
https://www.takimag.com/article/truth-or-trope/
That doesn't mean every American Jew is some evil person put to get you. It does mean that most of our politicians are willing to sell out to the interests of a foreign nation because people like Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban pay them to.
In addition, stalwart ally is not the term I would use to describe Israel. They're a pretty lousy ally. We give them a quarter TRILLION in foreign aid and they turn around and sell the military tech we give them to China.
https://www.military.com/defensetech/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-u-s-aid-to-israel-234-billion-over-60-years-1.5234820
lol as if international politics is a binary choice. Name a better ally in the Middle East. Oh, right, there isn’t one.
We support Israel because we need a foothold in the region and they’re the best option and have been for decades. Do they want our help? Absolutely. That’s how alliances work. Are there big donors who want to maintain the relationship? Obviously, why wouldn’t there be when there’s also a ton of money spent by the pro-Palestinian movement? When you have Ilhan Omar and the BDS crap happening, of course Adelson pours money in to support pro-Israel candidates.
Candidates like GEOTUS.
The United States currently has military personal based in Oman, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the UAE
It doesn't seem like we need Israel to be our foothold in the Middle East at all. In fact, our support for Israel hamstringed our relations with every other Middle Eastern nation for decades.
That’s not true, actually. Turkey is now an Islamist dictatorship, so I wouldn’t consider them reliable. Saudi Arabia has not been the best of allies, you may remember 9/11. Each of the others you listed pales in comparison to Israel’s military power.
You know who else doesn’t like Israel? George Soros. Everything you’re saying sounds a lot like the talking points parroted by the leftists that take his money. Why is that?
Alex told me that for many years, his father (George Soros) had not been eager to advertise his Judaism because “this was something he was almost killed for.” But he had always “identified firstly as a Jew,” and his philanthropy was ultimately an expression of his Jewish identity, in that he felt a solidarity with other minority groups and also because he recognized that a Jew could only truly be safe in a world in which all minorities were protected. Explaining his father’s motives, he said, “The reason you fight for an open society is because that’s the only society that you can live in, as a Jew"
http://archive.is/bJhw3#selection-753.597-753.1187
Soros isn't the only progressive donor out there. Haim Saban actually donated more to Clinton in 2016.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/haim-saban-hillary-clinton-donor-230711
There might be some dissent among the rank and file, but Democratic leadership is still very pro-Israel. Here's Pelosi and Schumer at AIPAC with Saban:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I