Why are they able to do this and still get any Christian to vote with them?
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"86" means to get rid of, or originally for "killing someone". The phrase "80 miles out and 6 feet under" was reserved for someone who had to dig their own grave 80 miles from civilization and then get shot execution-style.
I never knew the origin. Thank you.
Wikipedia deleted that from the page on “86” after team Trump took it up. Tim Pool made a video about it.
Mafia hitmen would drive miles out of the city and make a guy dig their own grave before he was murdered. 86ed
There's a whole category of 8645 stuff on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Blittzen-Mens-Anti-Trump-Impeachment-Black/dp/B077NST23Q/
How is this allowed?
I imagine Whitmer is going to plead ignorance. Don't let her get away with it.
The assassination interpretation is quite a stretch. 86 is used in the restaurant industry for an item that is no longer on the menu.
While there may have been an execution origin story for 86, in popular usage it is a restaurant industry term and has nothing to do with killing someone.
Having said, we know a lot of the mentally deranged leftists do fantasize about killing so it is not all that far out to make the connection. But it does come off as reaching, which ultimately weakens our position as it can be turned against us as evidence of hyperbole.
Wikipedia changed the definition to remove the “kill it” definition after the Trump team started talking about it. Stalinism.
Wow, the history of that page is showing a ton of recent activity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=86_(term)&action=history
The left does love to reinvent language to fit their narrative.
But still the phrase is more commonly associated with getting rid of a restaurant menu item than it is killing people. For it to be the other way around, we'd have to have more murders in the general population than we do restaurant industry workers.
Maybe because it's because I'm a UK pede but I have never heard of 86 being used as a verb when talking about restaurant menu items, and I've only heard it used in the sense of to kill someone or to get rid of something permanently. My understanding is that its use moved over time from 'to kill' to 'to remove permanently'. Fowler's Modern Usage should have it as an entry, but thankfully they're not online so can't be changed.
I have worked in the restaurant industry, but only in South Africa.
86 it it common vernacular for anything that needs doing away with. I have no idea why someone claims it has to do with the restaurant industry.
I think that it is used in the restaurant industry, but that use is a secondary or tertiary one, and the primary is to kill/do away with.
Whitmer is overtly evil so maybe to her it has the darker connotation.
Someone like Chanel Rion should ask her.
Either way it's pathetically juvenile of a governor to engage in this sort of puerile nonsense.
Agreed. It is like something on a tshirt some goth teen would buy at hot topic to be super edgy.
She is awful no doubt about that.
I thought it meant to get kicked out of a bar for drunken behavior, live and learn.
It's the same useage, 86 an item is to kill it from the menu
The phrase came from somewhere dark and has adapted into the common lexicon as a way of saying something is gone or to get rid of it.
When you say "kill the lights" does everyone assume murder is involved?
Have sense pedes. It is not an open call to assassination. Yes, there are lunatics that will have that interpretation, but for normal people, they understand it to mean "vote out Trump". Which is still counterproductive and dumb, but they're libs, so what can you expect them to think.
A long time ago when I worked bussing tables, one of the chefs told me to 86 the trash. Before I could do a thing, the Feds were all over the place. That was early GW era though...
The sign means get rid of Trump. No one is arguing that. What I am pointing out is that it is a stretch to make it about assassination. Hyperbole makes us look bad.
Common usage of 86 means "to get rid of" and is common in restaurants when you run out of an item. "86 calamari" means they ran out of squid to fry. It lets the servers know to let the diners know that the item is no longer available.
86 45 means vote Trump out of office. Although, to a radical leftist, that may have some other connotations, agreed.
I think the cryptic nature of the message is what gives it the nefarious intent of death rather than simply vote him out. If she wanted him voted out she could have just as easily and more openly placed a placard (much like her license plate on the shelf, notice that message is not cryptic or hidden) with the words "impeach 45" , "vote democrat" or "democracy over a dictator". The last being a popular democratic lawn sign in my blue state.
That is a fair interpretation but so is the less lethal one.
We need to be careful to not appear to be a bunch of hyperbolic quixotic headcases. Our steadfast reason is one of the main traits that differentiates us from them, after all.
They’re nuts, I agree.
How you interpret (get rid of) and how some lunatic interprets that are two different things. If you think they wouldn’t off our president at any chance they get them you haven’t been paying attention for the last 4 years.
No argument from me there. I’ve been praying for their safety since then.
It's origins are contested with no proven origin, though it certainly has existed in the restaurant industry for some time. Regardless, it is generally understood to mean something is removed, no longer available, or taken away. Possible that it's reference to death came before this, and possible that it stemmed later; but in any case, it is commonly understood, today, to mean to kill someone. So, we can take it that way, or take it from the angle of the restaurant industry, in which is still means to [86, or:] remove, take away, or be out of 45/the president. There's really no other meaning one could derive from 86/45, other than to assume she just decided to randomly display 4 numbers in that order for no reason at all and have it visible, again, for no reason at all.
It means remove Trump, plain and simple. No one is disputing that.
I'm pointing out it is a stretch to imply the assassination connotation. Of course you can do that, but it makes you look a bit conspiratorial and unhinged. I'd rather we were a bit more rational than that.
Look we are all on edge because the left is going completely insane, and actually murdering people. It puts us all on edge. But overreacting to false alarms is not super helpful.
Yeah, that's fair. But I think it's also fair to assume that she put it up because it'd be easy to make that defense, while also knowing plenty of supporters would view it as a coded message to take him out by any means necessary (given the messaging they've been giving over the past few months already)
They’re deranged and dangerous for sure. Pray for GEOTUS and keep your head on a swivel.
Stretchin Gretch is all about the stretch brah.
Don't be so naive. Go visit a state prison and watch how good current, reformed, or former criminals are at hiding things in plain sight. Interview the prisoners or released ex-cons. They will blow your mind.
When Jesus says the children of this world are smarter than children of light he's talking about the callow, unlearned spirit within you.
Symbols of these satanists are everywhere indeed.
thanks for the explanation.
never understood that though, if i knew i was going to die, why would i dig my own grave?
Very interesting. Thank you. I use the term 86 almost everyday. It's common in the bar and restaurant industry to have an "86 board", meaning a white board with a list of items the bar or kitchen has run out of. "Hey Chris, 86 mozzarella sticks"
does the "respect" part mean that it's going to be a black person that does the assassination attempt?
Just because someone calls themselves a Christian doesn't mean they are. The US is brimming with people who believe they are Christian but have absolutely no clue what that means. Having been a Christian for almost 40 years, and having spent decades in Christian settings surrounded by people who identify as Christian, I can confidently say that less than half of the people who say they're Christian actually are.
This. Ask someone their stance on the unborn (abortion). The answer will tell you where they are. There is no way you can be a Christian and also be pro abortion and ergo voting for the party that is tied to the direct funding of and support for mass genocide.
Seth Gruber @ Jack Hibbs church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4lxPmQ4E6U
The biggest problem i have with catholicism and the catholic church (besides the obvious covering for pedophilia stuff) is that they don't immediately shut down Biden, Pelosi, Cuomo and every other Democrat-Child-Sacrificing-Nut-Job who claims to be catholic.
They're Churchians
I've met a few 'over-the-top' fundamentalists that believed 90% of the people in church were fake.
I used to think they were over-exaggerating.
But 'churches' and 'christians' have so readily embraced every form of degeneracy in the last few years, openly promote communist ideals of greed and avarice as 'christian,' fill their signage with ungodly new age bs, and happily shut down and locked the doors, supported the shutting down, and attacked those who did not, in the face of a government order to stop worshiping God Almighty.
At this point people need to offer some evidence to convince me they aren't just lying about their faith.
Actions, not words.
What are they doing on Sunday? Compare to the other 6 days.
You’ll get a fix on a real Christian!
I will say that going to a service on sunday to chant the same songs and pay the same guy to say the same things is not found anywhere in the bible. It is a derivative of the catholic mass. Sunday is not even the sabbath (i'm not an adventist but they are correct on that matter.) Sunday was a day for the worship of the sun we just christianized it. I would not tie christianity to attendance of a 1hr service of any kind.
Jesus' biggest critics were the religious people.
What is your definition of a Christian then?
It's not my definition; it's the Bible's definition:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God . . . The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1:1-14)
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6)
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. (Romans 10:9-10)
Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will OBEY my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.” (John 14:23-24)
Every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?” Then I will tell them plainly, “I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!” (Matthew 7:17-23)
So they have to believe in God and Jesus, and also follow the teachings. I agree with that sentiment. But also "let he without sin cast the first stone."
So where is the line drawn? You say that less than half of people who claim to be Christian are actually Christian. What acts do they engage in that crosses the line in your eyes?
Edit: also, I appreciate the thurough response!
One of the most repeated verses in order to lower the vigilance of Christians. Just because we aren't stoning sinners to death doesn't mean there isnt a place in a church for standards.
"Christians" readily accept women in positions of leadership, unrepetent gays, lesbians and transgenders (as well as divorcees, adulterers and all sorts of other sexual sin) in the church. Are often wishy washy on condemning abortion. Preach and believe "prosperity gospel". Promote helping over foreigners over neighbors/brothers. They probably watch things that are pretty explicitly anti christian (good deals of netflix, HBO and amazon), pornography etc.
It's such a long list that the short answer is this : They have secular morality, not christian morality.
Why, thank you. 😃 Firstly, in order to understand the meaning of not casting stones, you have to understand that the Bible talks about two groups of people: saved and unsaved/Christian and non-Christian. Biblical standards are for Christians to use in holding themselves and each other accountable. Hence, the verse I sighted where Jesus is talking about judging a tree by its fruit. He's talking about believers (or those who claim to be believers). We Christians are able to determine/discern whether someone claiming to be a Christian is really a Christian by the way they live their lives, and are authorized to basically stick our noses in each other's business in order to make sure we don't go astray (Matthew 18:15-17 and James 5:13-20 for just two examples).
However, those biblical standards are not to be used against non-believers. We are not to judge or condemn non-Christians because it's not a level playing field. It's not fair to hold non-believers to a standard they claim no allegiance to. We are not to cast stones. They are sinners, but so are Christians. The only difference is, Christians are forgiven, and must show the same forgiveness to non-believers that Christ showed to us (Luke 6:27-36).
So, keeping this distinction in mind, the line for Christians is whatever the Bible says it is. On some issues, like abortion, the Bible is clear: life is a gift from God, and even an unborn child is alive. Anyone claiming to be a Christian, but knowingly voting for a party that advocates for abortion, is violating God's law. In those cases where the line isn't so clear, the true Christian is to seek God's will through prayer, and base their actions on what they truly believe God is telling them. If their relationship with God is real, their decision will align with biblical principles if not actual commandments. The difference is in the attitude: is it one of selfish rebellion or of willing submission?
Is it possible to be a true Christian and commit sin? Absolutely. Christians sin every day, and anyone who says differently is lying. The difference is, for a true Christian, sinning is an exception, a lapse in judgement, a moment of weakness when the sinful flesh overrides the faithful spirit. The apostle Paul talks about this struggle between flesh and spirit in Romans 7, and goes on to explain the difference in attitude between those who live for self and those who live for God:
"Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God." (Romans 8:5-8)
And here we come full circle back to the tree and its fruit. How is a person who claims to be Christian actually living his life? For God or for self? Momentary lapses (even lapses that last longer than a moment) aside, does the aggregate of person's decisions and behaviors point to Christ, or to Satan?
There is nothing about the Democrat Party that should attract Christians. They are a self serving organisation that destroys lives to get what they want. That sounds more like the devil to me.
They probably hate 2 THESSALONIANS 3:10:
"For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat."
lol, their response doesn't answer anything, they just say it is silly season and trump is a super spreader of hate.
They don't answer the question, their omission of a reasonable reason to have it there (just say it was a mistake you mouthbreathing retards) proves it is true.
Fear
I dont know about this cryptic shit but how any serious Christian vote for someone who makes it illegal to go to church but allows massive liberal social justice protests? Clearly nothing to do with virus safety. You're being discriminated against.
Because Christians are trained to never question authority and be nice from an early age by their authoritarian narcissistic pastors who don’t want to give up spiritual and financial power.
And no this is not a bash on Christianity by me. I’m a devout Christian. But I’m tired of pastors abusing their sacred duty to shepherd the flock and instead get fat off it
Man, this lady is obsessed with leather.
That's not the only thing Stretchin' Gretchen is obsessed with.
Because 86 means to get rid of. Saying 'get rid of' is exactly the same, it can be construed as fired, run out of town or killed. It doesn't specifically mean any of those.
The common usage of 86 just means "get rid of". It has no inherent connotation implying "kill".
"They draw near to me with their mouths but their hearts are far away"
The King of the Jews and the Savior of all mankind quotes Isaiah to explain why any "jew" or "christian" does the illogical, self-destructive, and idiotic things they do.
Don't judge based on appearances, claims, or the hypocrisy of unclean lips.
Let us not forget about the book that is titled “Ice Hunter” on the shelf behind her
Stretchen Gretchen doesn't like when people call her our history of whorish sodomy.
Fuck her. I wish I could read what the book titles are. Anyone have a clearer photo?
Idiot "turn the other cheek until dead" nonces is why
"ICE HUNTER"
book on shelf
How many tubes of makeup does she put on each day?
Its most likely cancel 45
86 seem to mean evacuate, run away, but also cancel, remove, kill when saying "86 the lights"
Prohibition era slang to exit a bar via street entrance when cops enter through courtyard
They don't mind killing millions of babies, why would you expect them to change when it comes to politicians/people in power who they don't like?
Christians are not a solid block. There's a wide variety of people in that group. Quit grouping people into collectives, that's what communists do.
Every time I see her it just kind of creeps me out. Is there any real part of her left?
Gematria on full display
The fuck does ‘christian’ have anything to do with this? Have you read how violet the Bible is, my dude?