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Basileus 12 points ago +13 / -1

Precisely this. There are many on this site for whom Trump is the avatar of our hopes to peacefully reform a broken, corrupt system in terminal decline. Through a combination of luck, skill, and destiny, he found himself poised to fight back against the Janissaries who usurped control of the American Experiment. Perhaps he might even have instituted protections to prevent another hijacking of the ship of state by Goths and Vandals who can vote (instead of raid).

But as time goes by and we witness only ineffectual tweeting and a succession of complicit figureheads, one might sympathize with a growing feeling that the victory was only illusory, or at best Pyrrhic. Say Trump wins, will the second term yield more lasting gains? Or is it at most a holding pattern to deprive our enemies of the office of President? To some extent, 2020 is showing that they do not need the presidency to implement their will. It is further evidence of the decline of American institutions. In those circumstances, some blackpilled expressions are normal, the rah-rah mantra chanting is not.

There is a place for both, we need each other. The blackpilled need the energy of the redpilled, and the redpilled need the grounding of the blackpilled. Together we still have a chance to mind a realistic way to accomplish at least some of the goals of the MAGA movement.

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Shadilay_Were_Off 5 points ago +9 / -4

the redpilled need the grounding of the blackpilled.

Hard disagree. Blackpilling == defeatism, which has never solved anything.