We conquered Mexico in 1835 or so. We actually kept all the land that didn’t have too many Mexicans in it (like 2/3s of it. Modern day Rockies and westward) and gave back that which did.
The grinding poverty and collapsed infrastructure and institutionalized corruption across the board would make that problematic, it could bankrupt us easily.
We'd also be making cartels and their members US citizens. Yeah, no problem there, right?
Good intentions, been discussed a million times, but it's not really realistic.
Obviously, the cartels would have to be eliminated and order restored. Mexican politics is overrun with criminals. People say "oh but the Mexicans are voting for these criminals", well yeah there's not an option. One criminal vs another.
In terms of poverty and failed infrastructure, Mexico is sitting on VAST natural resources that they can't do a thing about. We're looking at a fairly fast turn-around of their economy once we can rid them of the scourge of corruption and crime and start their economy working.
I realize I'm pipe dreaming here, I thought that was the point when the subject of Greenland came up? You think annexation of Greenland is a BETTER idea?
I said nothing about other countries being better, or at all. I'm just saying that the idea of annexing Mexico isn't an easy one, has dramatic downsides, and untapped reserves - which could take years and years to develop - might not be enough.
I have no problem blue-sky thinking, just don't jump up my ass when I take the opposite side. And especially don't accuse me of things I didn't even mention. It's intellectually dishonest.
This isn’t the best idea, however we should be treating them on par with the way we treat Middle Eastern countries who have/are killing US citizens. ie: take out the cartels by force.
uh, why is it not the best idea? The Mexican government is a tissue paper veneer over international drug cartels who have mismanaged the nation for decades and other criminal enterprises that have mismanaged it for almost its entirety as a nation.
We share a massive border with Mexico and could do everyone living there a massive service by bringing peace and unprecedented prosperity. The people of Mexico deserve to be relieved from the tyranny of the Criminals that rule their lives everyday.
The people of Mexico deserve to be relieved from the tyranny of the Criminals that rule their lives everyday.
They vote for those tyrants. They work for those tyrants. If you bring them here, those tyrants will rule us, too.
Don't forget La Raza - 'The Race'. That's what they care about. Not you, nor me, nor anyone else. European, African, Asian, they care not for the well-being of any who is not a part of their genetic in-group when it comes to politics.
I think it would end up being equivalent to the whole Iraq debacle. Mexico is not our responsibility and we are not the gatekeepers to their prosperity and growth. I do believe we can help them immensely by getting rid of the cartels. Also because they’re responsible for the deaths of mannnnny Americans
My personal opinion is the greatest threat to our nation is at our border right now. The cartels are a much bigger threat than we are acknowledging. Not that our military can't decimate them, we certainly can and the remaining criminals will scatter.
There's not a need for us to go marching into Mexico and do a Bush/Rumsfeld "hearts and minds" mission. Mexico DOES have a government and army. If the United States made a real commitment to Mexico to help them rid their nation and their government of these criminals, an awful lot could be done.
Mexico has the potential for fabulous wealth and prosperity once it gets out from under the heel of international criminals and I would love to see Mexico achieve greatness! Imagine a North America of USA, Canada and Mexico all as major economic powers!
I'm wondering if Taiwan could make a deal with some of the minorities of China to retake control and split China up. Like make Tibet its own country again, split Xinjiang off and give it to the Uighurs, give Inner Mongolia back to Mongolia, and get India in on the action by ceding some of the border territory to them. Form a coalition to boot the CCP out. I know it's definitely not likely, but it's an interresting scenario at least.
Annex Mexico first. Strategically and economically it would be a massive win.
Mexico has vast natural resources that are worthless to their corrupt government.
We conquered Mexico in 1835 or so. We actually kept all the land that didn’t have too many Mexicans in it (like 2/3s of it. Modern day Rockies and westward) and gave back that which did.
The amount of money to econoform their entire society would be astronomical.
The grinding poverty and collapsed infrastructure and institutionalized corruption across the board would make that problematic, it could bankrupt us easily.
We'd also be making cartels and their members US citizens. Yeah, no problem there, right?
Good intentions, been discussed a million times, but it's not really realistic.
Obviously, the cartels would have to be eliminated and order restored. Mexican politics is overrun with criminals. People say "oh but the Mexicans are voting for these criminals", well yeah there's not an option. One criminal vs another.
In terms of poverty and failed infrastructure, Mexico is sitting on VAST natural resources that they can't do a thing about. We're looking at a fairly fast turn-around of their economy once we can rid them of the scourge of corruption and crime and start their economy working.
I realize I'm pipe dreaming here, I thought that was the point when the subject of Greenland came up? You think annexation of Greenland is a BETTER idea?
I said nothing about other countries being better, or at all. I'm just saying that the idea of annexing Mexico isn't an easy one, has dramatic downsides, and untapped reserves - which could take years and years to develop - might not be enough.
I have no problem blue-sky thinking, just don't jump up my ass when I take the opposite side. And especially don't accuse me of things I didn't even mention. It's intellectually dishonest.
This isn’t the best idea, however we should be treating them on par with the way we treat Middle Eastern countries who have/are killing US citizens. ie: take out the cartels by force.
uh, why is it not the best idea? The Mexican government is a tissue paper veneer over international drug cartels who have mismanaged the nation for decades and other criminal enterprises that have mismanaged it for almost its entirety as a nation.
We share a massive border with Mexico and could do everyone living there a massive service by bringing peace and unprecedented prosperity. The people of Mexico deserve to be relieved from the tyranny of the Criminals that rule their lives everyday.
They vote for those tyrants. They work for those tyrants. If you bring them here, those tyrants will rule us, too.
Don't forget La Raza - 'The Race'. That's what they care about. Not you, nor me, nor anyone else. European, African, Asian, they care not for the well-being of any who is not a part of their genetic in-group when it comes to politics.
I think it would end up being equivalent to the whole Iraq debacle. Mexico is not our responsibility and we are not the gatekeepers to their prosperity and growth. I do believe we can help them immensely by getting rid of the cartels. Also because they’re responsible for the deaths of mannnnny Americans
My personal opinion is the greatest threat to our nation is at our border right now. The cartels are a much bigger threat than we are acknowledging. Not that our military can't decimate them, we certainly can and the remaining criminals will scatter.
There's not a need for us to go marching into Mexico and do a Bush/Rumsfeld "hearts and minds" mission. Mexico DOES have a government and army. If the United States made a real commitment to Mexico to help them rid their nation and their government of these criminals, an awful lot could be done.
Mexico has the potential for fabulous wealth and prosperity once it gets out from under the heel of international criminals and I would love to see Mexico achieve greatness! Imagine a North America of USA, Canada and Mexico all as major economic powers!
Taiwan next
I'm wondering if Taiwan could make a deal with some of the minorities of China to retake control and split China up. Like make Tibet its own country again, split Xinjiang off and give it to the Uighurs, give Inner Mongolia back to Mongolia, and get India in on the action by ceding some of the border territory to them. Form a coalition to boot the CCP out. I know it's definitely not likely, but it's an interresting scenario at least.
ROC's claim to the mainland is so weak, so politically cut off from the world, it would take generations to get something like that done.