Anderson Cooper wasting more time lecturing the audience than the outburst of applause for the greatest zinger in Presidential debate history caught a lot of people’s attention on how truly biased the media actually is.
They remember the reactions from "because you'd be in jail" or any other of his great comments. Trump knows how to command a crowd. One of his many strengths.
People make moments. There is a reason that musicians, athletes (used to) play before crowds. There is an unspeakable energy that we create when we're together, and that's what makes covid policy so destructive. That's why it's so important that Trump got out and spoke with the people. Conservatives rally around strength and a movement in a positive unified way. The left rallies around destruction and envy.
The goal of the left is to dehumanize everything and bring everyone down to the same level of self-loathing that they exist with every single day. Our philosophy and ideology is built around humor and love which aren't just empty platitudes like the left has.
One black woman at the town hall singlehandedly changed the narrative with nodding for trump. A whole crowd would destroy the left just like he did in 2016. They do these things because they can't win, and these things are why we must.
I was at the park today and it was pleasantly buzzing. I hardly said two words to anyone outside my family but it was nice to be in a part of town that doesn't care about social distancing and masks.
Absolutely. I stopped wearing the mask at the grocery store and it makes a night and day difference to my mood. It's usually me and maybe one other person who won't but people actually want to talk to me. I like being emotionally available and bare. It's the essence of life itself. Fuck the self loathing, no-confidence of wearing the mask and avoiding people like they are a plague.
I seem to bring up the Red Pilled podcast here often, but one of them a year ago was about The Godhead, which is about the energy that someone on stages spreads to the crowd, almost like one big body. Worth listening to.
He met with Iran and made them keep the hostages until the election was over. Their president and many intelligent officers in the USA confirmed it and there was video of the flight itself w George Bush going to meet w Iran’s president. The pilot was tortured and starved to death in jail
I do thank you for ignoring the downvotes and sharing more information.
That story looks very similar to the Russia collusion - a conspiracy theory which will never die even after it has been thoroughly debunked after multi-year, highest level investigation.
really, which Iranian "president because Carter had been negotiating with three and not a single one of them had any sort of communication with the Ayatollah Khomeini and Khomeini was running Iran...so "Iranian presdient says X" is kind of joke.
We know the NYT lies, is inexcusably biased to the left, and they HATED Reagan.
"One of the accounts is provided by Gary Sick, a Middle East specialist who helped handle the Iranian hostage crisis as a member of the White House staff in the Carter Administration. Mr. Sick, in an article published Monday on the Op-Ed page of The New York Times, says he has heard what he considers to be reliable reports "
I don't think I would trust the second hand information of someone who was from the administration that lost to Reagan, and screwed the pooch on getting them back in the first place.
"In an interview, Mr. Sick, who now teaches at Columbia University, said other people with second-hand knowledge of the meetings were Ari Ben Menashi, a former Israeli intelligence official; Arif Durrani, a Pakistani arms dealer, and Ahmad Madani, a former Iranian Defense Minister. "
I wouldn't trust the Pakistani arm's dealer, for obvious reasons. The Iranian "Death to America" defense minister - would need some real corroboration before I believed him. As to whether Ben Menashi is reputable or not, we have the fact that he was arrested in 1989 in the United States on charges that he attempted to sell three military aircraft to the Iranian government. He was held for three years, before being released, He wrote his book slandering Reagan in 1992, after his release, so we can surmise that he was exceedingly biased against the United States.
The Consortium article sounds plausible at first glance for rationale. When you read it through again carefully - the article uses the same source (Menashe) and spends a good portion painting Israel as a horrible aggressor and terrorist nation.
The people who lived and were aware of what was happening in the Middle East know that from its inception to modern times, Israel has been beset by nations trying to bring it down by war and terrorist attack. Has Israel done some terrible things? Yes, they have - they are not blameless, but there was ample justification for what they did. BLM+Antifa is a very peaceful organization compared to what Israel endured for decade after decade.
Then the kicker - The author cites a 1993 interview with Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir - but why did the author wait until 3 days after Shamir died in 2012 to publish this information? If he had published it before, Shamir could have refuted it or confirmed it. Seems suspicious to me. If the author feared reprisals from the Israeli government, those reprisals would still be likely. Did the author think that the nation that "Never Forgets" was going to forget his writing, just because the supposed subject was no longer alive?
The guy with the slashed wrists, Danny Casolaro, seems to have been neck deep "investigating" a lot of things that could have brought him trouble.
One of the key sources for this October Surprise theory was Barbara Honnegger - who did work under Reagan as a White House analyst. Let's take a closer look at her. She was Director of the Attorney General’s Gender Discrimination Law Review. "A Reagan appointee who had been working on the Administration's project to eliminate sex discrimination from Federal and state laws resigned today after assailing the project as ''a sham.' Barbara Honegger, a special assistant in the Justice Department's civil rights division who had worked in the 1980 Reagan campaign and in the White House, said in an article published Sunday that she had become convinced that President Reagan did not care about women's rights."
So, she had an obvious ax to grind against Reagan.
"Political historian Kevin Phillips has been a proponent of the idea. In his 2004 book American Dynasty, although Phillips concedes that many of the specific allegations were proven false, he also argues that in his opinion, Reagan campaign officials "probably" were involved in a scheme."
Probably isn't good enough - except for CNN fans.
"Newsweek magazine also ran an investigation, reporting in November 1991 that most, if not all, of the charges made were groundless."
"The New Republic also looked into the allegations and reported, in November 1991, that "the conspiracy as currently postulated is a total fabrication". They were unable to verify any of the evidence presented by Sick and supporters, finding them to be inconsistent and contradictory in nature. They also pointed out that nearly every witness of Sick's had either been indicted or was under investigation by the Department of Justice."
"Retired CIA analyst and counter-intelligence officer Frank Snepp of The Village Voice reviewed Sick's allegations, publishing an article in February 1992. Snepp alleged that Sick had only interviewed half of the sources used in his book, and supposedly relied on hearsay from unreliable sources for large amounts of critical material. Snepp also discovered that Sick had sold the rights to his book to Oliver Stone in 1989. After going through evidence presented by Richard Brenneke, Snepp asserted that Brenneke's credit card receipts showed him to be in Portland, Oregon, during the time he claimed to be in Paris observing the secret meeting"
House of Representatives investigation
"The House of Representatives' January 1993 report concluded "there is no credible evidence supporting any attempt by the Reagan presidential campaign—or persons associated with the campaign—to delay the release of the American hostages in Iran".[39] The task force Chairman Lee H. Hamilton also added that the vast majority of the sources and material reviewed by the committee were "wholesale fabricators or were impeached by documentary evidence". The report also expressed the belief that several witnesses had committed perjury during their sworn statements to the committee, among them Richard Brenneke,[40] who claimed to be a CIA agent." https://i.imgur.com/p6kWQvL.png (see the Not for Ants version of the page here):
https://i.imgur.com/31GQbIM.png
Source - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015060776773&view=2up&seq=26
I'd say that what your theory about Reagan doesn't match up with the facts. Carter was a bungler. He wanted to end the hostage situation, but from everything I've seen written, he was convinced that the proposed solutions would go wrong or end up backfiring on him.
you do know that's all BS right? Jimmy Carter was on the phone trying to get the hostages freed right up to the hour of the inauguration. Iran didn't understand that Reagan didn't get power in a revolution but in an election. They didn't understand that he reason why he didn't immediately become president was because we change presidency hands in January. If this conspiracy theory was right, Iran would have handed up the hostages when Reagan got elected, not the day he was inaugurated.
what the trump team REALLY needs to do is find out where the room is that they are feeding info to biden is and put a bug in it, and then replay the whole biden ear feed to the public.
I do not believe Biden is capable of memorization! Avoidance, resting and others writing answers to questions so they can use technology to send it to him, in real time.
It’s public knowledge what frequency ranges the cameras and microphones operate on, and the FCC probably knows the exact MHz. Anything outside of that range is going to be Biden’s earpiece. Start talking into it and get him confused, or jam it so sniff.exe stops responding
expensive frequency scanners can do that easily. If the guy is within 100 feet of biden whispering from a van, if it's directional you might need to stand in between the van and Biden's earpiece but you could pick it up if you walk around the building and intercept the signal
Someone did this once with a televangelist who claimed to be getting information straight from God. Apparently God spoke on 155.880 MHz, because this guy found it on a scanner.
There's a behind the scenes video of the audience going nuts cheering for Trump during his last Town Hall with demon lady Savannah when they cut to commercials. It was great.
Meh. Audience is used as a manipulation tactic to influence viewers not in attendance to agree with the audience. Let the candidates speak for themselves.
The audience in the Republican primaries (also known as the greatest 6 months in American political history) was stacked against trump and he still ruled the day.
Nah. I just think being "afraid" of influencing people via perceived approval is catering to the stupid. Witnesses are witnesses and I want proof the people who say they were there actually were there. It in turn is insulting to everyone who is capable of understanding what is actually said vs "oh he must have said something good since the crowd loves him." I think if you make your opinions based on crowd approval (group think) it shows you're incapable of actually thinking for one's self.
Make up your own mind and tell people to not always go with the path of least resistance. It also shouldn't be discouraged to be someone who doesn't follow the path.
Your proposal isn't much better than blanket censorship or editor manipulation.
Lol. Yeah I'm 'censoring' because broadcasting audience reactions to political discussions is super important, and you felt it was important enough to downvote.
This. Reagan had his faults but, damn, this clip really brings it back and drives home why he was absolutely the right man at the right time in history. With the context of an aggressive Soviet Union and their expansion in this hemisphere... and the Bush types in the GOPE were throwing a shit fit because they wanted their compliant globalist in the White House. But then a Captain America Goldwater disciple shows up and ruined their plans.
His adopted son Michael was a longtime conservative tv commentator. Michael really loved his dad while Reagan's own children were vapid lefty hippie types.
Reagan’s literally paid for the debate to be held because the FEC ruled that the original sponsorship (by a NH newspaper) was a form of in-kind campaign donation, and Bush’s campaign didn’t want to pay its half of the total cost.
I seriously cried at his funeral procession. That was a somber moment - a whole lot of cold war kids and cold war vets on the block with me. I had the nagging thought that the country was in such sad shape and that we'd never see another president like Reagan again. I couldn't have imagined how wrong I was.
If you’re ever in LA GO to the Reagan Library. it is fast becoming the only good thing left in California. I’ve been 2x but we are gladly leaving CA the day after the election
He was too kind-hearted to properly deal with the domestic enemy. See Amnesty, exhibit A.
Reagan would've been a fantastic president in a country without commie subversives, but they knew how to manipulate him to set up the long game.
Which of course is still 100000x better than having a subversive in the Oval Office, but imagine if we'd had someone like Trump in office after JFK was taken out. Shit would've been quelled early.
Amnesty was a 1986 deal he made in exchange for increased security on the Mexican border and laws against hiring illegals. After 86 the Dems controlled the House and Senate and reneged on their end of the deal.
IDK why every time Reagan is mentioned here we always get haters.
He was too kind-hearted to properly deal with the domestic enemy
Yep. Picking a CIA guy as your VP was a big mistake. Reagan thought more highly of his countrymen than they deserved. He had more faith in the government than was warranted.
I would throw trump in there too with regards to being quick witted. He’s fucking fast. While debating Wallace he literally corrected Biden mid sentence
That was glorious. Biden lost count of what point he was on, went from 1 to 3, President Trump stops arguing with Wallace to say, "you were on 2," then went right back to arguing with Wallace.
To anyone that caught it, it was fucking savagely brilliant.
I don’t mean the whole debate or interrupting , but he finds pockets to fit in these memorable one liners. “You’d be in jail”, “no you’re on number two” (quick as hell), or even when Biden was talking about Kamala and Trump hit em with “not according to Harris”. The guys quick
That's only mildly witty. It's mostly that trump doesn't have a filter. He says the first thing that pops in his head (like a teen with adhd) and he just doesn't give a shit. He says whatever he wants to whoever he wants which is usually great, it is a part of the American spirit of you ask me and it's part of why I voted for him (twice now) but he flat out does not have the silver toung thay Lincoln or reagan had. Period.
“I thought it had been unfair”
Many people remember Reagan’s famous words. But most haven’t heard the full story of what happened that chilly New Hampshire night.
After Iowa, Bush and Reagan had a clear lead on the other Republican candidates, senators Bob Dole and Howard Baker, congressmen John Anderson and Phil Crane, and former Texas governor John Connally. A local newspaper, The Nashua Telegraph, invited the two frontrunners to a debate. The five others were excluded. This unfairly helped the Ronald Reagan and George Bush campaigns, Bob Dole complained. The Federal Election Commission agreed.
Reagan did too. He offered to split the cost of the debate 50-50 with the Bush campaign, but they declined. Reagan’s campaign then paid for the debate itself.
“I thought it had been unfair to exclude the other candidates,” Reagan later wrote in his autobiography, An American Life. “I decided to invite them.”
But when four other GOP candidates showed up at the debate (Connally was campaigning elsewhere), Bush campaign manager James Baker (who later became Chief of Staff to Ronald Reagan) refused to let his man participate.
For an uncomfortable few minutes, Reagan and Bush sat silently on stage with Telegraph editor John Breen. The other candidates stood awkwardly behind them. Soon, the audience grew restless.
Wanting to explain, Reagan began to speak. At that, the moderator called to a sound engineer, “Turn off Mr. Reagan’s microphone!”
Surprised and offended, Ronald Reagan’s seldom-seen temper flashed. “I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Breen!” he snapped.
As Reagan recalled, “For some reason, my words hit the audience, whose emotions were already worked up, like a sledgehammer. The crowd roared and just went wild.
“I may have won the debate, the primary — and the nomination — right there.”
Indeed, Ronald Reagan dominated the primary, winning 49.6 percent of the votes. “Big Mo” had shifted his way. A few months later, Reagan easily won the GOP nomination.
A lesson in leadership
It was a dramatic moment in history, but more interesting is what it says about Reagan himself. After all, what provoked Reagan’s rare flash of frustration was the thought of the other candidates being unfairly excluded, and the moderator’s attempt to keep the audience from hearing Reagan’s concerns.
Can you explain that bit? The debates today are not structured or organized like they were pre 1988. Was there some sort of cover charge for the candidates back then?
Wow! That's the "because you'd be in jail" of Reagan's day!
Also, I don't know the full context of this, but it certainly looks like he was trying to reply to a point directed at him, and not speak out of turn at all. What a slimy trick. Just like today's media/moderators... they haven't changed one bit.
If I'm reading the room and context correctly. Reagan agreed to let someone make opening remarks first and that he'd then be allowed to make his own opening remarks, but then the moderator tried to skip over Reagan's chance to speak.
A little context for anyone who doesn’t know, Reagan literally was paying for the mic. His campaign wanted a debate in New Hampshire, so they foot the bill themselves
Someone ask POTUS why he doesn't pull what Reagan did there, and bring Kanye with him to the next debate? That would be a masterstroke - insist Kanye be included, because the voters deserve to hear all the candidates, and otherwise, Biden and the debate committee would be 'silencing black voices'. Then Kanye can call out all Biden's blatant racism with impunity.
Reagan was about to punch that smarmy journo right in the mouth. I had heard that Reagan was already in a bad mood as he'd had a difficult day of campaigning in New Hampshire and was therefore 100% done with shenanigans by the media.
The bigger problem and bias is that they switched the topic of the debate away from Foreign Policy... because President Trump has an amazing record while Biden has a horrible one
This is also why they don't want audiences anymore
They also howled and cheered at "because you'd be in jail." The CNN moderators were visibly annoyed that the audience loved it so much.
Same here brother, we're going to make it count this time!
https://youtu.be/K1Q71k6fmts
absolutely the greatest moment i've ever witnessed live on TV. Just lost my fucking shit.
I always get a laugh out of that
NIMBLE NAVIGATOR
With a whole new crop ready to harvest on Nov.3rd!
Have you seen the crowd view when he said it? So good.
https://twitter.com/vincentcrypt46/status/1318373897692237831?s=21
Anderson Cooper wasting more time lecturing the audience than the outburst of applause for the greatest zinger in Presidential debate history caught a lot of people’s attention on how truly biased the media actually is.
Please stop clapping
Anderson cooper's pooper
-Andy pooper
“Because you’d be in jail” got the crowd going too!
They remember the reactions from "because you'd be in jail" or any other of his great comments. Trump knows how to command a crowd. One of his many strengths.
People make moments. There is a reason that musicians, athletes (used to) play before crowds. There is an unspeakable energy that we create when we're together, and that's what makes covid policy so destructive. That's why it's so important that Trump got out and spoke with the people. Conservatives rally around strength and a movement in a positive unified way. The left rallies around destruction and envy.
The goal of the left is to dehumanize everything and bring everyone down to the same level of self-loathing that they exist with every single day. Our philosophy and ideology is built around humor and love which aren't just empty platitudes like the left has.
One black woman at the town hall singlehandedly changed the narrative with nodding for trump. A whole crowd would destroy the left just like he did in 2016. They do these things because they can't win, and these things are why we must.
Very good point about that black woman, well worth noting.
I was at the park today and it was pleasantly buzzing. I hardly said two words to anyone outside my family but it was nice to be in a part of town that doesn't care about social distancing and masks.
Absolutely. I stopped wearing the mask at the grocery store and it makes a night and day difference to my mood. It's usually me and maybe one other person who won't but people actually want to talk to me. I like being emotionally available and bare. It's the essence of life itself. Fuck the self loathing, no-confidence of wearing the mask and avoiding people like they are a plague.
I seem to bring up the Red Pilled podcast here often, but one of them a year ago was about The Godhead, which is about the energy that someone on stages spreads to the crowd, almost like one big body. Worth listening to.
Got a link?
I’m constrained on searching right now but it might be Red pilled America episode 16 about the founding of YouTube. I can look better tomorrow.
I'll be honest- we all have our moments too, but as Marilyn Manson said "you live with apes man, it's hard to keep clean".
Absolutely. They hate the fact that we love our President.
Cause they're able to do this so successfully at biden rallies?
I love this man
Dude was pissed.
I see why the Iranian noped the fuck out and gave our hostages back.
He met with Iran and made them keep the hostages until the election was over. Their president and many intelligent officers in the USA confirmed it and there was video of the flight itself w George Bush going to meet w Iran’s president. The pilot was tortured and starved to death in jail
Source for this?
Iran president confirmed it since it happened: https://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/07/world/bani-sadr-in-us-renews-charges-of-1980-deal.html
Here’s the whole story in detail: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-iranian-hostage-crisis-a-cia-covert-op/5324385
Here it is explained in detail as well: https://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/09/reagan-bush-ties-to-iran-hostage-crisis/
Ex-Israeli Prime Minister confirmed it too: https://consortiumnews.com/2012/07/03/shamirs-october-surprise-admission/
This guy had his wrists slashed 15 times & was suicided investigating it https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cf3cls/his_name_was_danny_casolaro_he_suicided_himself/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Here’s a report from 30 years ago about it https://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/15/world/new-reports-say-1980-reagan-campaign-tried-to-delay-hostage-release.html
I’ll find the source pilot I talked about later too
Wow, NYTimes has been peddling conspiracy theories and fake news for a long time.
Sorry bro, all those sources you listed are hearsay and lame.
"The planned documentary with the Shamir interview never was aired, since the producers ran out of money before it could be completed." Really? Sad.
Check again I just posted the Iran president’s comments. He’s claimed since the very year it happened
I do thank you for ignoring the downvotes and sharing more information.
That story looks very similar to the Russia collusion - a conspiracy theory which will never die even after it has been thoroughly debunked after multi-year, highest level investigation.
really, which Iranian "president because Carter had been negotiating with three and not a single one of them had any sort of communication with the Ayatollah Khomeini and Khomeini was running Iran...so "Iranian presdient says X" is kind of joke.
Thank you for listing those.
We know the NYT lies, is inexcusably biased to the left, and they HATED Reagan.
"One of the accounts is provided by Gary Sick, a Middle East specialist who helped handle the Iranian hostage crisis as a member of the White House staff in the Carter Administration. Mr. Sick, in an article published Monday on the Op-Ed page of The New York Times, says he has heard what he considers to be reliable reports "
I don't think I would trust the second hand information of someone who was from the administration that lost to Reagan, and screwed the pooch on getting them back in the first place.
"In an interview, Mr. Sick, who now teaches at Columbia University, said other people with second-hand knowledge of the meetings were Ari Ben Menashi, a former Israeli intelligence official; Arif Durrani, a Pakistani arms dealer, and Ahmad Madani, a former Iranian Defense Minister. "
I wouldn't trust the Pakistani arm's dealer, for obvious reasons. The Iranian "Death to America" defense minister - would need some real corroboration before I believed him. As to whether Ben Menashi is reputable or not, we have the fact that he was arrested in 1989 in the United States on charges that he attempted to sell three military aircraft to the Iranian government. He was held for three years, before being released, He wrote his book slandering Reagan in 1992, after his release, so we can surmise that he was exceedingly biased against the United States.
The Consortium article sounds plausible at first glance for rationale. When you read it through again carefully - the article uses the same source (Menashe) and spends a good portion painting Israel as a horrible aggressor and terrorist nation.
The people who lived and were aware of what was happening in the Middle East know that from its inception to modern times, Israel has been beset by nations trying to bring it down by war and terrorist attack. Has Israel done some terrible things? Yes, they have - they are not blameless, but there was ample justification for what they did. BLM+Antifa is a very peaceful organization compared to what Israel endured for decade after decade.
Then the kicker - The author cites a 1993 interview with Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir - but why did the author wait until 3 days after Shamir died in 2012 to publish this information? If he had published it before, Shamir could have refuted it or confirmed it. Seems suspicious to me. If the author feared reprisals from the Israeli government, those reprisals would still be likely. Did the author think that the nation that "Never Forgets" was going to forget his writing, just because the supposed subject was no longer alive?
The guy with the slashed wrists, Danny Casolaro, seems to have been neck deep "investigating" a lot of things that could have brought him trouble.
One of the key sources for this October Surprise theory was Barbara Honnegger - who did work under Reagan as a White House analyst. Let's take a closer look at her. She was Director of the Attorney General’s Gender Discrimination Law Review. "A Reagan appointee who had been working on the Administration's project to eliminate sex discrimination from Federal and state laws resigned today after assailing the project as ''a sham.' Barbara Honegger, a special assistant in the Justice Department's civil rights division who had worked in the 1980 Reagan campaign and in the White House, said in an article published Sunday that she had become convinced that President Reagan did not care about women's rights."
So, she had an obvious ax to grind against Reagan.
"Political historian Kevin Phillips has been a proponent of the idea. In his 2004 book American Dynasty, although Phillips concedes that many of the specific allegations were proven false, he also argues that in his opinion, Reagan campaign officials "probably" were involved in a scheme."
Probably isn't good enough - except for CNN fans.
"Newsweek magazine also ran an investigation, reporting in November 1991 that most, if not all, of the charges made were groundless."
"The New Republic also looked into the allegations and reported, in November 1991, that "the conspiracy as currently postulated is a total fabrication". They were unable to verify any of the evidence presented by Sick and supporters, finding them to be inconsistent and contradictory in nature. They also pointed out that nearly every witness of Sick's had either been indicted or was under investigation by the Department of Justice."
"Retired CIA analyst and counter-intelligence officer Frank Snepp of The Village Voice reviewed Sick's allegations, publishing an article in February 1992. Snepp alleged that Sick had only interviewed half of the sources used in his book, and supposedly relied on hearsay from unreliable sources for large amounts of critical material. Snepp also discovered that Sick had sold the rights to his book to Oliver Stone in 1989. After going through evidence presented by Richard Brenneke, Snepp asserted that Brenneke's credit card receipts showed him to be in Portland, Oregon, during the time he claimed to be in Paris observing the secret meeting"
Senate investigation The US Senate's November 1992 report concluded that "by any standard, the credible evidence now known falls far short of supporting the allegation of an agreement between the Reagan campaign and Iran to delay the release of the hostages." https://i.imgur.com/lLinVWx.png (see the Not for Ants version of the pages here): Page 114 https://i.imgur.com/G6kTyoL.png
Page 115 https://i.imgur.com/FAI6t5x.png
Source - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000021071829&view=2up&seq=124
House of Representatives investigation "The House of Representatives' January 1993 report concluded "there is no credible evidence supporting any attempt by the Reagan presidential campaign—or persons associated with the campaign—to delay the release of the American hostages in Iran".[39] The task force Chairman Lee H. Hamilton also added that the vast majority of the sources and material reviewed by the committee were "wholesale fabricators or were impeached by documentary evidence". The report also expressed the belief that several witnesses had committed perjury during their sworn statements to the committee, among them Richard Brenneke,[40] who claimed to be a CIA agent."
https://i.imgur.com/p6kWQvL.png (see the Not for Ants version of the page here): https://i.imgur.com/31GQbIM.png
Source - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015060776773&view=2up&seq=26
I'd say that what your theory about Reagan doesn't match up with the facts. Carter was a bungler. He wanted to end the hostage situation, but from everything I've seen written, he was convinced that the proposed solutions would go wrong or end up backfiring on him.
you do know that's all BS right? Jimmy Carter was on the phone trying to get the hostages freed right up to the hour of the inauguration. Iran didn't understand that Reagan didn't get power in a revolution but in an election. They didn't understand that he reason why he didn't immediately become president was because we change presidency hands in January. If this conspiracy theory was right, Iran would have handed up the hostages when Reagan got elected, not the day he was inaugurated.
What’s wild is I saw his casket too for the public viewing when I was younger- waited 7 hours in the grueling heat to see it
You mean the one "they tortured to death"? Where will you find him?🤔
The source of the pilot
WRONG! And your sources suck.
So they really really didn’t want to piss him off.
Mute the 3rd debater
Replace her with Tucker.
And make her hang out with Toomer.
what the trump team REALLY needs to do is find out where the room is that they are feeding info to biden is and put a bug in it, and then replay the whole biden ear feed to the public.
They're not. The reason why they are muting mics is so Biden can just repeat off a bunch of 2-minute memorized speeches.
That's why he's taking this entire week off. He's memorizing about 20 minutes of canned material
Makes sense
I do not believe Biden is capable of memorization! Avoidance, resting and others writing answers to questions so they can use technology to send it to him, in real time.
for his sake, i hope they have a good 120 seconds on why he ignored his son texting him that he was fucking a 14 year old girl...
I think that is why Trump kept speaking over him and the moderator, he wanted to disorient Biden who wouldn't be able to clearly hear his ear feed.
It’s public knowledge what frequency ranges the cameras and microphones operate on, and the FCC probably knows the exact MHz. Anything outside of that range is going to be Biden’s earpiece. Start talking into it and get him confused, or jam it so sniff.exe stops responding
expensive frequency scanners can do that easily. If the guy is within 100 feet of biden whispering from a van, if it's directional you might need to stand in between the van and Biden's earpiece but you could pick it up if you walk around the building and intercept the signal
Someone did this once with a televangelist who claimed to be getting information straight from God. Apparently God spoke on 155.880 MHz, because this guy found it on a scanner.
It will only make Trump STRONGER
they can't stop him. any time they let him talk he'll just say "where's hunter" and it will be glorious
Holy fuck, I just picture this crazy scene: Trump rushing over to the other podium and grabbing Biden's mic when they try that, LMAO.
Shows the importance of an audience too.
There's a behind the scenes video of the audience going nuts cheering for Trump during his last Town Hall with demon lady Savannah when they cut to commercials. It was great.
Link?
Meh. Audience is used as a manipulation tactic to influence viewers not in attendance to agree with the audience. Let the candidates speak for themselves.
The audience in the Republican primaries (also known as the greatest 6 months in American political history) was stacked against trump and he still ruled the day.
I disagree
That doesn't change the fact that the candidates should speak for themselves, regardless of the outcome in one circumstance or another.
Shouldn't mean an audience can't attend. Seems reasonable you'd want something called "witnesses" to a debate.
Of course there can be an audience present. Just don't broadcast them, either in video or audio.
Nah. I just think being "afraid" of influencing people via perceived approval is catering to the stupid. Witnesses are witnesses and I want proof the people who say they were there actually were there. It in turn is insulting to everyone who is capable of understanding what is actually said vs "oh he must have said something good since the crowd loves him." I think if you make your opinions based on crowd approval (group think) it shows you're incapable of actually thinking for one's self.
Make up your own mind and tell people to not always go with the path of least resistance. It also shouldn't be discouraged to be someone who doesn't follow the path.
Your proposal isn't much better than blanket censorship or editor manipulation.
Lol. Yeah I'm 'censoring' because broadcasting audience reactions to political discussions is super important, and you felt it was important enough to downvote.
What a productive use of time.
And it was the Bushes' allies that tried to shut him and the other candidates up.
Establishment Republicans have been around a long time. Reagan brought his own CA staff because he didn't trust them.
This. Reagan had his faults but, damn, this clip really brings it back and drives home why he was absolutely the right man at the right time in history. With the context of an aggressive Soviet Union and their expansion in this hemisphere... and the Bush types in the GOPE were throwing a shit fit because they wanted their compliant globalist in the White House. But then a Captain America Goldwater disciple shows up and ruined their plans.
Just like Trump did to low energy Jeb.
Holy shit. This is glorious. As much as I love cheerful, optimistic, hilarious Reagan, I also love pissed-off, don't-fuck-with-me Reagan.
Where are Reagan's sons ffs?!
Ron Jr. became a liberal, idk what he's up to now. Not sure what Michael's doing.
His adopted son Michael was a longtime conservative tv commentator. Michael really loved his dad while Reagan's own children were vapid lefty hippie types.
Fun fact, the guy's name was actually Breen.
what did he mean by paying?
Reagan paid the full cost to host the whole debate.
Reagan’s literally paid for the debate to be held because the FEC ruled that the original sponsorship (by a NH newspaper) was a form of in-kind campaign donation, and Bush’s campaign didn’t want to pay its half of the total cost.
oh cool, didn't know.. never understood what he meant before
Trump before Trump.
Reagan was the only other President that I loved.
I seriously cried at his funeral procession. That was a somber moment - a whole lot of cold war kids and cold war vets on the block with me. I had the nagging thought that the country was in such sad shape and that we'd never see another president like Reagan again. I couldn't have imagined how wrong I was.
Do you mean lifetime or all time? Cause there are some straight up ballers in that line up.
If you’re ever in LA GO to the Reagan Library. it is fast becoming the only good thing left in California. I’ve been 2x but we are gladly leaving CA the day after the election
I agree, and find amazing similarities in their presidencies and eras.
Would LOVE it if Trump bought and brought his own MAGAPhone and let them hook it up just so he can use this line!
"Borrow" one from the nearest BLM restaurant interrupter commies.
Maybe keep a can of whipped topping handy and fill the cone!!!
Steal it from a Bernie speech right out of his hand
Just dangling off the side of the podium on a sling, set the tone for these commie fucks, Daddy's here to play ball!!!
Literally just a clown horn he pulls out of his blazer
How great would it be to hear this after they mute him
Just raise his voice.
We need to get those BLM girls who took over Bernie's mic at his rally in 2016. We will pay them to steal Joe's mic if they turn Trump's off.
He was too kind-hearted to properly deal with the domestic enemy. See Amnesty, exhibit A.
Reagan would've been a fantastic president in a country without commie subversives, but they knew how to manipulate him to set up the long game.
Which of course is still 100000x better than having a subversive in the Oval Office, but imagine if we'd had someone like Trump in office after JFK was taken out. Shit would've been quelled early.
To be fair to Reagan, there was no precedent for amnesty. So there was no way to know. Not the right decision, but still. It's not like we knew.
Also your implications are pretty unfair to the guy who brought down the evil empire.
I was explicit about the 'domestic enemy', aka subversives. He performed excellently in his role of defending the Nation from foreign threats.
Communism doesn't need any help being taken down because it always eventually takes down itself by virtue of it not being practical.
How many have to die first though? I’d rather take it out before it’s allowed to turn our great country into another failed state.
Yeah but it takes down it's host with it
Amnesty was a 1986 deal he made in exchange for increased security on the Mexican border and laws against hiring illegals. After 86 the Dems controlled the House and Senate and reneged on their end of the deal.
IDK why every time Reagan is mentioned here we always get haters.
I'm not 'hating' him. It's valid criticism. He's still one of the best Presidents of the last decade.
Reagan was elected in 1980. Did you mean to say the last four decades?
Yeah major derpderp moment from me. I was actually thinking century.
Multiples of 10 are hard apparently.
I hope Trump doesn't accept Amnesty. I am cheerful for Trump but some people in his administration are not America first!!
Well he brought us 12 years of Bush presidencies, so that was bad.
Yep. Picking a CIA guy as your VP was a big mistake. Reagan thought more highly of his countrymen than they deserved. He had more faith in the government than was warranted.
Trump should seriously bring a bullhorn. Does anyone really think they won't cut him off at their convenience?
Lmao alex jones with the back up bullhorn
I want to see him run up to the edge of the stage with a bullhorn and toss it up to POTUS like Stone Cold's beer cans
I'd guess Trump has 3 cutting edge technology voice boomers planned.
Trump knows their plan. The idea that they can silence the current sitting President is the image they want to set.
I'd guess he'd have, a megaphone, a wristband-voice-modifier, and Hell, he can even walk up to the moderator, unmute his mic, and use hers.
They said microphones muted, not contestants unable to walk around. :/
Abraham Lincoln and Ronald reagan were probably the most quick witted and well spoken presidents we ever had.
I would throw trump in there too with regards to being quick witted. He’s fucking fast. While debating Wallace he literally corrected Biden mid sentence
That was glorious. Biden lost count of what point he was on, went from 1 to 3, President Trump stops arguing with Wallace to say, "you were on 2," then went right back to arguing with Wallace.
To anyone that caught it, it was fucking savagely brilliant.
One of the best parts of the debate
https://thedonald.win/p/HY7SNVN3/x/c/17sPBBIA8U?d=50
Here's the clip of moment you're talking about.
Thank you ARfreedom, very cool! That was a good one
I don’t mean the whole debate or interrupting , but he finds pockets to fit in these memorable one liners. “You’d be in jail”, “no you’re on number two” (quick as hell), or even when Biden was talking about Kamala and Trump hit em with “not according to Harris”. The guys quick
That's only mildly witty. It's mostly that trump doesn't have a filter. He says the first thing that pops in his head (like a teen with adhd) and he just doesn't give a shit. He says whatever he wants to whoever he wants which is usually great, it is a part of the American spirit of you ask me and it's part of why I voted for him (twice now) but he flat out does not have the silver toung thay Lincoln or reagan had. Period.
if they mute his mic, he should walk over and start talking into the moderator's mic.
Agreed. He should just go take Biden's and say we all know he is full of shit anyways then go on an hour long rally rant.
Trump is going to straight up walk over to Joe and take his mic
OMG. Do Want.
Don't make Daddy come back there and turn this mic back on
Reagan was a badass
The original OG was Savage. I wonder what he would have done without Tip O'Neil and the Dems controlling the House.
and KKK Byrd controlling the Senate.
I forgot about that racist @$$hole. Man we were next-level effed and Reagan bought us time.
You're doing the Lord's work.
This gave me chills. It's like you can see the patriotism shooting out of his eyeballs.
And look at GHWB's body language sitting over to Reagan's left: effeminate, defeated Jeb body language.
This is why he was absolutely BELOVED by his secret service agents. Id bet Trump's feel the same way.
Reagan was before my time but watching this makes you realize that the left has been pulling the same kind of shit for decades.
Oh yes they have.
The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the brave.
Its like trump after reading how to act more like a politician book. They have similar spice.
The story behind Reagan's "I am paying for this microphone!" moment:
[http://www.billsims3.com/2008/04/i-am-paying-for-this-microphone-mr.html?m=1]
Reagan did too. He offered to split the cost of the debate 50-50 with the Bush campaign, but they declined. Reagan’s campaign then paid for the debate itself.
“I thought it had been unfair to exclude the other candidates,” Reagan later wrote in his autobiography, An American Life. “I decided to invite them.”
But when four other GOP candidates showed up at the debate (Connally was campaigning elsewhere), Bush campaign manager James Baker (who later became Chief of Staff to Ronald Reagan) refused to let his man participate.
For an uncomfortable few minutes, Reagan and Bush sat silently on stage with Telegraph editor John Breen. The other candidates stood awkwardly behind them. Soon, the audience grew restless.
Wanting to explain, Reagan began to speak. At that, the moderator called to a sound engineer, “Turn off Mr. Reagan’s microphone!”
Surprised and offended, Ronald Reagan’s seldom-seen temper flashed. “I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Breen!” he snapped.
As Reagan recalled, “For some reason, my words hit the audience, whose emotions were already worked up, like a sledgehammer. The crowd roared and just went wild.
“I may have won the debate, the primary — and the nomination — right there.”
Indeed, Ronald Reagan dominated the primary, winning 49.6 percent of the votes. “Big Mo” had shifted his way. A few months later, Reagan easily won the GOP nomination.
A lesson in leadership
It was a dramatic moment in history, but more interesting is what it says about Reagan himself. After all, what provoked Reagan’s rare flash of frustration was the thought of the other candidates being unfairly excluded, and the moderator’s attempt to keep the audience from hearing Reagan’s concerns.
[http://www.billsims3.com/2008/04/i-am-paying-for-this-microphone-mr.html?m=1]
Thankyou, very good reading.
It reminds me of POTUS with Sleepy Doc!
They weren't just great Presidents they were great leaders and great men.
¡De nada!
Mr. Reagan come see what they’ve done to your beautiful California 😪
The American people are paying for this microphone, Ms. Welker
But Reagan did pay for that microphone.
Can you explain that bit? The debates today are not structured or organized like they were pre 1988. Was there some sort of cover charge for the candidates back then?
Well I don't know about a cover charge, but I do remember that a newspaper hosted the debate, and it was paid for by Reagan's campaign.
Ok, that's the info I was missing. Thank you for helping out.
Sure. Here's an interesting article about it:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/debatemoments/reagan.html
Detailed and brief, thanks for the link!
Woo! First time stickied. Thanks Mods.
I used to think we’d never see another man like Reagan.
Wow! That's the "because you'd be in jail" of Reagan's day!
Also, I don't know the full context of this, but it certainly looks like he was trying to reply to a point directed at him, and not speak out of turn at all. What a slimy trick. Just like today's media/moderators... they haven't changed one bit.
If I'm reading the room and context correctly. Reagan agreed to let someone make opening remarks first and that he'd then be allowed to make his own opening remarks, but then the moderator tried to skip over Reagan's chance to speak.
Scroll down and see below.
President Trump will not take any crap from these commie bastards either. 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸
Omg good catch
That was a good one. Never picked up in it before, but is that weasel sitting down GHWB?
Yes. Those standing are other candidates wanting to be admitted to the debate. Scroll down and see below.
I hate Bushes.
A little context for anyone who doesn’t know, Reagan literally was paying for the mic. His campaign wanted a debate in New Hampshire, so they foot the bill themselves
Someone ask POTUS why he doesn't pull what Reagan did there, and bring Kanye with him to the next debate? That would be a masterstroke - insist Kanye be included, because the voters deserve to hear all the candidates, and otherwise, Biden and the debate committee would be 'silencing black voices'. Then Kanye can call out all Biden's blatant racism with impunity.
Reagan was about to punch that smarmy journo right in the mouth. I had heard that Reagan was already in a bad mood as he'd had a difficult day of campaigning in New Hampshire and was therefore 100% done with shenanigans by the media.
Cocksuckers.
Reagan Owns!
That was my Commander-in-Chief...the best ever!
This is where Trump got all his Dragon Energy from
The more things change...
thanks for sharing. that was very nice
It’s gonna be 10x worse Thursday.
Real men know how to project their voice.
He won’t even need a mic.
Good luck sleepy, creepy, corrupt , Traitor JOE!!! See you in hell fucker
They can silence Trumps microphone all they want, but they can't silence us on Nov. 3rd!
The bigger problem and bias is that they switched the topic of the debate away from Foreign Policy... because President Trump has an amazing record while Biden has a horrible one
They don't even allow the audience to make a sound anymore - immediate feedback of an audience would destroy their fake narratives.
Dystopian shithole. Fuck this planet and fuck all of these literal demons in control of it.