You're right of course, they're really not thinking it through.

I'm going to say something that's on reddit is traditionally downvoted to the depths.

That's not the way to go about changing people's minds, and it's the kind of comment that does incredibly well, it's groupthink and it's awful and something worth distancing from.

The last thing you say to somebody to change their mind is that they're stupid, people believe they have rational reasoning behind their thoughts and the majority of people don't think of themselves as stupid. You tell them that you think they're incapable of rational thought and they'll stop listening to you.

People who think this are not stupid - they're possibly ignorant, or perhaps informed by other sources who are telling them the election was fairly won. They don't see massive election fraud like people on this site, they see hysteria.

The way to win them over is to chat to them calmly, and be genuinely interested in what they're saying - why do they think the election wasn't stolen, what sources are they looking at? Can we verify them? Are they aware of other sources that say the opposite?

This plays great to the audience of Trump supporters, but terribly to anybody checking out what's going on on thedonald.win, which does happen a lot (hence the brigading when it happens).

Look what I'm saying is that it's defeatist to call them idiots, it means you don't believe you can change their minds. But you can if you only approach it better.

You're right of course, they're really not thinking it through.

I'm going to say something that's on reddit is traditionally downvoted to the depths.

That's not the way to go about changing people's minds, and it's the kind of comment that does incredibly well, it's groupthink and it's awful and something worth distancing from.

The last thing you say to somebody to change their mind is that they're stupid, people believe they have rational reasoning behind their thoughts and the majority of people don't think of themselves as stupid. You tell them that you think they're incapable of rational thought and they'll stop listening to you.

People who think this are not stupid - they're possibly ignorant, or perhaps informed by other sources who are telling them the election was fairly won. They don't see massive election fraud like people on this site, they see hysteria.

The way to win them over is to chat to them calmly, and be genuinely interested in what they're saying - why do they think the election wasn't stolen, what sources are they looking at? Can we verify them? Are they aware of other sources that say the opposite?

This plays great to the audience of Trump supporters, but terribly to anybody checking out what's going on on thedonald.win, which does happen a lot (hence the brigading when it happens).

Look what I'm saying is that it's defeatist to call them idiots, it means you don't believe you can change their minds. But you can if you only approach it better.

Anyway, feel free to downvote if you disagree, I can take them - because I still believe I'm right.