We do live in interesting times.

Now that I agree with 100%. The vast majority of us have lives, jobs, families. We're (myself included) not apt to suit up and wander out alone to make some statement that destroys the lives of our loved ones and achieves nothing. At least not without planning, organization, some safety in numbers, and some kind of goal.

(that was the point of many of my posts, calling for planning and organization)

The only way I see significant involvement and participation is if he plays the insurrection act card, and we the people can fall under and support the president and trusted military directly. A bunch of people randomly wandering around with guns and no organization or leadership won't end very well.

If that doesn't happen, if he doesn't play that card, then I fear all is lost and the people will never rise up. Guess I'm the "doomer". Because if losing free elections and watching the Presidency being stolen isn't enough, nothing will be. It's over at that point. This is truly the moment.

We do live in interesting times.