Saying "you're telling me that YOU know what Jesus was saying?" isn't an answer. Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying as far as this is concerned. Now it's your turn to provide a counter-argument as to why I'm wrong.

Similarly, "I'm so sick of people like you" and "Your saying things like 'it's a supplement' de-prioritizes prayer" aren't refutations of anything, they're merely you saying you dislike my position and its implications.

Let's really dial in on the key point here. You claim that prayer is the most powerful way to bring about societal change. Yet Islam, which prays to a false god, absolutely walloped Christianity and took the entire Middle East and North Africa from us. Similarly, atheism, which has no prayers at all, has taken Europe from us.

Now this is all despite constant prayer from our side. If your position is true, how would this be possible?

The true answer is that war and societal pressures are the best way to bring change. Israel didn't simply pray to receive the Promised Land and it was given to them, Joshua had to conquer it in war.

Saying "you're telling me that YOU know what Jesus was saying?" isn't an answer. Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying as far as this is concerned. Now it's your turn to provide a counter-argument as to why I'm wrong.

Similarly, "I'm so sick of people like you" and "Your saying things like 'it's a supplement' de-prioritizes prayer" aren't refutations of anything, they're merely you saying you dislike my position and its implications.

Let's really dial in on the key point here. You claim that prayer is the most powerful way to bring about societal change. Yet Islam, which prays to a false god, absolutely walloped Christianity and took the entire Middle East and North Africa from us. Similarly, atheism, which has no prayers at all, has taken Europe from us.

Now this is all despite constant prayer from our side. If your position is true, how would this be possible?