It was not entirely clear at that point if he had committed a crime or not as opposed to acting very suspiciously so they will use that to say that a citizens arrest was not valid. Trespass in law is usually no harm no foul.
If someone leaves their door open then you walk in, take a nose around then walk out it's not normally considered a crime.
Trespass can still be grounds for suspicion and lawful intervention but certain things have to happen for it to become a crime. Walking into a stranger's premises isn't something you just normally do.
Half the time criminal trespass usually requires some actual other crime such as criminal damage.
It gets mixed up with burglary which supersedes trespass as a more serious crime but also requires trespass making trespass suspicion.
Criminal trespass is often a misdemeanour but burglary is a felony. I suspect citizens arrest will be strong for the latter as the media are going out of their way to point out trespass is not a felony, they're trying to basically make a case for the defence on their own.
The house had been robbed before and trespassed multiple times between them and now at a very suspect hour by Arbery or someone very closely resembling him. This time he got spotted because he did it in broad daylight. It would have to be very had luck for him to have happened to wonder in and look exactly like the main suspect.
However it was not certain that he was the one that did it. Usually even a security guard might try to get you to stop and talk to you but they can't actually cross the line and fully detain you unless they manage to get you to give up further evidence of guilt. Normally for anyone other than an officer to arrest someone they need to be certain not just suspicious.
In this case they had good reason to catch up with him just to ask him what he was doing going into someone else's premises. I'd assume only seeing it at night he couldn't resist the chance to see it in full daylight. It's problematic that it's difficult to legally do much about potential burglars staking out a joint.
They set out with the intent of possibly arresting him but they never got to the point where they were clearly doing that.
If they were in some way guilty then it's clear from the evidence available that it's to a very small degree. There's zero evidence of any mens rea and if there were a mistake there's zero evidence of it being serious.
The law in Georgia is actually not that strict for citizens arrest. Their intent to arrest was lawful intent as it allows arrest for reasonable suspicion, they believed they had that and there are grounds to say that it wasn't all that improbably. We have that in this case, though a key witness has been tampered with already that might be crucial to bolster that defence.
For example, he's now refusing to say that he shared any information with the people who went after Arbery to escape liability and also has been threatened stating that he won't live in the house because he has received death threats and doesn't feel that it's safe.
The media and Democrats are interfering with the case and prosecution demanding hate crime charges as well as first degree murder charges both of which are obviously and factually inapplicable.
Lawyers are coming out themselves and saying nonsense such as:
- It was a robbery.
- It was first degree murder.
- It was a hate crime.
- It has something to do with the stand your ground law.
- Etc.
All of those are false so I wouldn't even trust a lawyer. I assume these days you only need to pay to be a lawyer or judge or lawmaker. Hardly any of them seem to actually know the law.
It was not entirely clear at that point if he had committed a crime or not as opposed to acting very suspiciously so they will use that to say that a citizens arrest was not valid. Trespass in law is usually no harm no foul.
If someone leaves their door open then you walk in, take a nose around then walk out it's not normally considered a crime.
Trespass can still be grounds for suspicion and lawful intervention but certain things have to happen for it to become a crime. Walking into a stranger's premises isn't something you just normally do.
Half the time criminal trespass usually requires some actual other crime such as criminal damage.
It gets mixed up with burglary which supersedes trespass as a more serious crime but also requires trespass making trespass suspicion.
Criminal trespass is often a misdemeanour but burglary is a felony. I suspect citizens arrest will be strong for the latter as the media are going out of their way to point out trespass is not a felony, they're trying to basically make a case for the defence on their own.
The house had been robbed before and trespassed multiple times between them and now at a very suspect hour by Arbery or someone very closely resembling him. This time he got spotted because he did it in broad daylight. It would have to be very had luck for him to have happened to wonder in and look exactly like the main suspect.
However it was not certain that he was the one that did it. Usually even a security guard might try to get you to stop and talk to you but they can't actually cross the line and fully detain you unless they manage to get you to give up further evidence of guilt. Normally for anyone other than an officer to arrest someone they need to be certain not just suspicious.
In this case they had good reason to catch up with him just to ask him what he was doing going into someone else's premises. I'd assume only seeing it at night he couldn't resist the chance to see it in full daylight. It's problematic that it's difficult to legally do much about potential burglars staking out a joint.
They set out with the intent of possibly arresting him but they never got to the point where they were clearly doing that.
If they were in some way guilty then it's clear from the evidence available that it's to a very small degree. There's zero evidence of any mens rea and if there were a mistake there's zero evidence of it being serious.
The law in Georgia is actually not that strict for citizens arrest. Their intent to arrest was lawful intent as it allows arrest for reasonable suspicion, they believed they had that and there are grounds to say that it wasn't all that improbably. We have that in this case, though a key witness has been tampered with already that might be crucial to bolster that defence.
For example, he's now refusing to say that he shared any information with the people who went after Arbery to escape liability and also has been threatened stating that he won't live in the house because he has received death threats and doesn't feel that it's safe.
The media and Democrats are interfering with the case and prosecution demanding hate crime charges as well as first degree murder charges both of which are obviously and factually inapplicable.
Lawyers are coming out themselves and saying nonsense such as:
- It was a robbery.
- It was first degree murder.
- It was a hate crime.
- It has something to do with the stand your ground law.
- Etc.
All of those are false so I wouldn't even trust a lawyer. I assume these days you know need to pay to be a lawyer or judge or lawmaker. Hardly any of them seem to actually know the law.
It was not entirely clear at that point if he had committed a crime or not as opposed to acting very suspiciously so they will use that to say that a citizens arrest was not valid. Trespass in law is usually no harm no foul.
If someone leaves their door open then you walk in, take a nose around then walk out it's not normally considered a crime.
Trespass can still be grounds for suspicion and lawful intervention but certain things have to happen for it to become a crime. Walking into a stranger's premises isn't something you just normally do.
Half the time criminal trespass usually requires some actual other crime such as criminal damage.
It gets mixed up with burglary which supersedes trespass as a more serious crime but also requires trespass making trespass suspicion.
Criminal trespass is often a misdemeanour but burglary is a felony. I suspect citizens arrest will be strong for the latter as the media are going out of their way to point out trespass is not a felony, they're trying to basically make a case for the defence on their own.
The house had been robbed before and trespassed multiple times between them and now at a very suspect hour by Arbery or someone very closely resembling him. This time he got spotted because he did it in broad daylight. It would have to be very had luck for him to have happened to wonder in and look exactly like the main suspect.
However it was not certain that he was the one that did it. Usually even a security guard might try to get you to stop and talk to you but they can't actually cross the line and fully detain you unless they manage to get you to give up further evidence of guilt. Normally for anyone other than an officer to arrest someone they need to be certain not just suspicious.
In this case they had good reason to catch up with him just to ask him what he was doing going into someone else's premises. I'd assume only seeing it at night he couldn't resist the chance to see it in full daylight. It's problematic that it's difficult to legally do much about potential burglars staking out a joint.
They set out with the intent of possibly arresting him but they never got to the point where they were clearly doing that.
If they were in some way guilty then it's clear from the evidence available that it's to a very small degree. There's zero evidence of any mens rea and if there were a mistake there's zero evidence of it being serious.
The law in Georgia is actually not that strict for citizens arrest. Their intent to arrest was lawful intent as it allows arrest for reasonable suspicion, they believed they had that and there are grounds to say that it wasn't all that improbably. We have that in this case, though a key witness has been tampered with already that might be crucial to bolster that defence.
For example, he's now refusing to say that he shared any information with the people who went after Arbery to escape liability and also has been threatened stating that he won't live in the house because he has received death threats and doesn't feel that it's safe.
The media and Democrats are interfering with the case and prosecution demanding hate crime charges as well as first degree murder charges both of which are obviously and factually inapplicable.
It was not entirely clear at that point if he had committed a crime or not as opposed to acting very suspiciously so they will use that to say that a citizens arrest was not valid. Trespass in law is usually no harm no foul.
If someone leaves their door open then you walk in, take a nose around then walk out it's not normally considered a crime.
Trespass can still be grounds for suspicion and lawful intervention but certain things have to happen for it to become a crime. Walking into a stranger's premises isn't something you just normally do.
Half the time criminal trespass usually requires some actual other crime such as criminal damage.
It gets mixed up with burglary which supersedes trespass as a more serious crime but also requires trespass making trespass suspicion.
Criminal trespass is often a misdemeanour but burglary is a felony. I suspect citizens arrest will be strong for the latter as the media are going out of their way to point out trespass is not a felony, they're trying to basically make a case for the defence on their own.
The house had been robbed before and trespassed multiple times between them and now at a very suspect hour by Arbery or someone very closely resembling him. This time he got spotted because he did it in broad daylight. It would have to be very had luck for him to have happened to wonder in
However it was not certain that he was the one that did it. Usually even a security guard might try to get you to stop and talk to you but they can't actually cross the line and fully detain you unless they manage to get you to give up further evidence of guilt. Normally for anyone other than an officer to arrest someone they need to be certain not just suspicious.
In this case they had good reason to catch up with him just to ask him what he was doing going into someone else's premises. I'd assume only seeing it at night he couldn't resist the chance to see it in full daylight. It's problematic that it's difficult to legally do much about potential burglars staking out a joint.
They set out with the intent of possibly arresting him but they never got to the point where they were clearly doing that.
If they were in some way guilty then it's clear from the evidence available that it's to a very small degree. There's zero evidence of any mens rea and if there were a mistake there's zero evidence of it being serious.
The law in Georgia is actually not that strict for citizens arrest. Their intent to arrest was lawful intent as it allows arrest for reasonable suspicion, they believed they had that and there are grounds to say that it wasn't all that improbably. We have that in this case, though a key witness has been tampered with already that might be crucial to bolster that defence.
For example, he's now refusing to say that he shared any information with the people who went after Arbery to escape liability and also has been threatened stating that he won't live in the house because he has received death threats and doesn't feel that it's safe.
The media and Democrats are interfering with the case and prosecution demanding hate crime charges as well as first degree murder charges both of which are obviously and factually inapplicable.
It was not entirely clear at that point if he had committed a crime or not as opposed to acting very suspiciously so they will use that to say that a citizens arrest was not valid. Trespass in law is usually no harm no foul.
If someone leaves their door open then you walk in, take a nose around then walk out it's not normally considered a crime.
Trespass can still be grounds for suspicion and lawful intervention but certain things have to happen for it to become a crime. Walking into a stranger's premises isn't something you just normally do.
Half the time criminal trespass usually requires some actual other crime such as criminal damage.
It gets mixed up with burglary which supersedes trespass as a more serious crime but also requires trespass making trespass suspicion.
The house had been robbed before and trespassed multiple times between them and now at a very suspect hour by Arbery or someone very closely resembling him. This time he got spotted because he did it in broad daylight. It would have to be very had luck for him to have happened to wonder in
However it was not certain that he was the one that did it. Usually even a security guard might try to get you to stop and talk to you but they can't actually cross the line and fully detain you unless they manage to get you to give up further evidence of guilt. Normally for anyone other than an officer to arrest someone they need to be certain not just suspicious.
In this case they had good reason to catch up with him just to ask him what he was doing going into someone else's premises. I'd assume only seeing it at night he couldn't resist the chance to see it in full daylight. It's problematic that it's difficult to legally do much about potential burglars staking out a joint.
They set out with the intent of possibly arresting him but they never got to the point where they were clearly doing that.
If they were in some way guilty then it's clear from the evidence available that it's to a very small degree. There's zero evidence of any mens rea and if there were a mistake there's zero evidence of it being serious.
The law in Georgia is actually not that strict for citizens arrest. Their intent to arrest was lawful intent as it allows arrest for reasonable suspicion, they believed they had that and there are grounds to say that it wasn't all that improbably. We have that in this case, though a key witness has been tampered with already that might be crucial to bolster that defence.
For example, he's now refusing to say that he shared any information with the people who went after Arbery to escape liability and also has been threatened stating that he won't live in the house because he has received death threats and doesn't feel that it's safe.
The media and Democrats are interfering with the case and prosecution demanding hate crime charges as well as first degree murder charges both of which are obviously and factually inapplicable.
It was not entirely clear at that point if he had committed a crime or not as opposed to acting very suspiciously so they will use that to say that a citizens arrest was not valid. Trespass in law is usually no harm no foul.
If someone leaves their door open then you walk in, take a nose around then walk out it's not normally considered a crime.
Trespass can still be grounds for suspicion and lawful intervention but certain things have to happen for it to become a crime. Walking into a stranger's premises isn't something you just normally do.
Half the time criminal trespass usually requires some actual other crime such as criminal damage.
It gets mixed up with burglary which supersedes trespass as a more serious crime but also requires trespass making trespass suspicion.
The house had been robbed before and trespassed multiple times between them and now at a very suspect hour by Arbery or someone very closely resembling him. This time he got spotted because he did it in broad daylight. It would have to be very had luck for him to have happened to wonder in
However it was not certain that he was the one that did it. Usually even a security guard might try to get you to stop and talk to you but they can't actually cross the line and fully detain you unless they manage to get you to give up further evidence of guilt. Normally for anyone other than an officer to arrest someone they need to be certain not just suspicious.
In this case they had good reason to catch up with him just to ask him what he was doing going into someone else's premises. I'd assume only seeing it at night he couldn't resist the chance to see it in full daylight. It's problematic that it's difficult to legally do much about potential burglars staking out a joint.
They set out with the intent of possibly arresting him but they never got to the point where they were clearly doing that.
If they were in some way guilty then it's clear from the evidence available that it's to a very small degree. There's zero evidence of any mens rea and if there were a mistake there's zero evidence of it being serious.
The law in Georgia is actually not that strict for citizens arrest. Their intent to arrest was lawful intent as it allows arrest for reasonable suspicion, they believed they had that and there are grounds to say that it wasn't all that improbably. We have that in this case, though a key witness has been tampered with already that might be crucial to bolster that defence. For example, he's now refusing to say that he shared any information with the people who went after Arbery to escape liability and also has been threatened stating that he won't live in the house because he has received death threats and doesn't feel that it's safe.
It was not entirely clear at that point if he had committed a crime or not as opposed to acting very suspiciously so they will use that to say that a citizens arrest was not valid. Trespass in law is usually no harm no foul.
If someone leaves their door open then you walk in, take a nose around then walk out it's not normally considered a crime.
Trespass can still be grounds for suspicion and lawful intervention but certain things have to happen for it to become a crime. Walking into a stranger's premises isn't something you just normally do.
Half the time criminal trespass usually requires some actual other crime such as criminal damage.
It gets mixed up with burglary which supersedes trespass as a more serious crime but also requires trespass making trespass suspicion.
The house had been robbed before and trespassed multiple times between them and now at a very suspect hour by Arbery or someone very closely resembling him. This time he got spotted because he did it in broad daylight. It would have to be very had luck for him to have happened to wonder in
However it was not certain that he was the one that did it. Usually even a security guard might try to get you to stop and talk to you but they can't actually cross the line and fully detain you unless they manage to get you to give up further evidence of guilt.
In this case they had good reason to catch up with him just to ask him what he was doing going into someone else's premises. I'd assume only seeing it at night he couldn't resist the chance to see it in full daylight. It's problematic that it's difficult to legally do much about potential burglars staking out a joint.
They set out with the intent of possibly arresting him but they never got to the point where they were clearly doing that.
If they were in some way guilty then it's clear from the evidence available that it's to a very small degree. There's zero evidence of any mens rea and if there were a mistake there's zero evidence of it being serious.
The law in Georgia is actually not that strict for citizens arrest. Their intent to arrest was lawful intent as it allows arrest for reasonable suspicion, they believed they had that and there are grounds to say that it wasn't all that improbably. We have that in this case, though a key witness has been tampered with already that might be crucial to bolster that defence. For example, he's now refusing to say that he shared any information with the people who went after Arbery to escape liability and also has been threatened stating that he won't live in the house because he has received death threats and doesn't feel that it's safe.
It was not entirely clear at that point if he had committed a crime or not as opposed to acting very suspiciously so they will use that to say that a citizens arrest was not valid. Trespass in law is usually no harm no foul.
If someone leaves their door open then you walk in, take a nose around then walk out it's not normally considered a crime.
Trespass can still be grounds for suspicion and lawful intervention but certain things have to happen for it to become a crime. Walking into a stranger's premises isn't something you just normally do.
Half the time criminal trespass usually requires some actual other crime such as criminal damage.
It gets mixed up with burglary which supersedes trespass as a more serious crime but also requires trespass making trespass suspicion.
The house had been robbed before and trespassed multiple times between them and now at a very suspect hour by Arbery or someone very closely resembling him. This time he got spotted because he did it in broad daylight. It would have to be very had luck for him to have happened to wonder in
However it was not certain that he was the one that did it. Usually even a security guard might try to get you to stop and talk to you but they can't actually cross the line and fully detain you unless they manage to get you to give up further evidence of guilt.
In this case they had good reason to catch up with him just to ask him what he was doing going into someone else's premises. I'd assume only seeing it at night he couldn't resist the chance to see it in full daylight. It's problematic that it's difficult to legally do much about potential burglars staking out a joint.
They set out with the intent of possibly arresting him but they never got to the point where they were clearly doing that.
If they were in some way guilty then it's clear from the evidence available that it's to a very small degree. There's zero evidence of any mens rea and if there were a mistake there's zero evidence of it being serious.
The law in Georgia is actually not that strict for citizens arrest. There intent to arrest was lawful as it allows arrest for reasonable suspicion. We have that in this case, though a key witness has been tampered with already that might be crucial to bolster that defence.