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You are correct. Lucifer is his former job description, and Satan is his current occupation. Here is the thing which the Theosophists do not grasp. Lucifer means "light-bearer" --sometimes translated as "light-bringer". BOTH of those translations reveal that he is a subordinate or servant of the heavenly godhead.


The person who brings something is taking it to someone having command over him, whereas a light-giver is the source of authority or the originator of the thing brought. A light-bringer is not a light-giver; the light-bringer is sent or summoned by the master, the light-giver is the master commanding the servant to bring it to him. A king commands that a subordinate bring some wine to the feast. The subordinate brings it. The king orders the subordinate to take a letter to the prince. The subordinate takes the letter to the prince. The word "bring" is used when something is to be given to yourself: "Bring me my bill, waiter." The word "take" is used when something is to be given to someone else: "Waiter, take a glass of wine to that pretty woman and put it on my bill." (You don't say "Take me a glass of wine, waiter" when ordering for yourself.) The waiter either brings you the item, or he takes it to someone else. That "Lucifer" means "light-bringer" and not "light-giver" signifies that he is the waiter/servant, not the person who does the ordering or commanding.


But the name is more properly translated as "light-bearer," also suggesting subordinate status. We learn from Scripture: Jesus is God, he has a throne seated at the right hand of the Father, is called the Light, and Lucifer was "a covering cherub" meaning he attended the throne of Christ in the heavenly kingdom. Thrones are carried by using staves, rods inserted through rings at the base, which allow the thrones to be transported by servants, for ceremonial purposes. This was Satan's role---he was a bearer of the Light, of Christ on His throne. African kings practice this custom to this very day. If you have ever seen the scene when Egyptian queen Cleopatra enters Rome to appear before the Caesar in the magnificent film with Elizabeth Taylor and Rex Harrison in those roles (and Richard Burton as Marc Anthony), then you would have an idea of what being "light-bearer" entailed. (See link below.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A88thSR8qZ0


He coveted the throne in his pride, and attempted a coup, suckering a third of the angels to rebel with him. Lucifer isn't even his name; it is his former job description. We don't know his real name, because to have one's name blotted out is a great punishment in Scripture; he sought to make his name great, so it is not recorded in Scripture, meaning no one ever can praise it or honor it, guaranteeing that he will be forgotten for eternity. The Devil is the prince of this world according to the Gospel of John. Princes are subordinate to kings, and Christ is KING OF KINGS. Satan appears before God in the beginning of the Book of Job, giving an account of his doings to the king in whose court he has been summoned and ordered to do so. He also can do nothing which God disallowed him to do to Job, meaning, again, that he is a subordinate and must obey God.


Lucifer is his former job description; Satan is his current role or title (it is from the Greek word for "adversary"), and Devil (from the Latin for a subordinate evil spirit) is the definition of the noun describing him as an entity.

Lucifer = former job description

Satan = current occupation

Devil = descriptive noun of the type of being he is

Prince of this world = title

We do not know and will not ever know his real name, as that is part of his punishment, because of his pride. He is called Satan, meaning adversary, because he is also called the Accuser. He acts as the prosecuting attorney in Father's heavenly court, accusing us by calling to attention our sinfulness. Jesus is called wonderful counselor, because He acts as our defense attorney before the Father. In a court of law, you may represent yourself or have a counselor approach the bench on your behalf. Christ imputes HIS righteousness to us when standing before the Father when we accept Christ, therefore we are found not guilty at the White Throne Judgment, because the perfect innocence of Christ, through His sacrifice, is extended to us. Jesus paid the bond price to set us free until the trial, and then He gets the charges dropped once there.

14 days ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

You are correct. Lucifer is his former job description, and Satan is his current occupation. Here is the thing which the Theosophists do not grasp. Lucifer means "light-bearer" --sometimes translated as "light-bringer". BOTH of those translations reveal that he is a subordinate or servant of the heavenly godhead. The person who brings something is taking it to someone having command over him, whereas a light-giver is the source of authority or the originator of the thing brought. A light-bringer is not a light-giver; the light-bringer is sent or summoned by the master, the light-giver is the master commanding the servant to bring it to him. A king commands that a subordinate bring some wine to the feast. The subordinate brings it. The king orders the subordinate to take a letter to the prince. The subordinate takes the letter to the prince. The word "bring" is used when something is to be given to yourself: "Bring me my bill, waiter." The word "take" is used when something is to be given to someone else: "Waiter, take a glass of wine to that pretty woman and put it on my bill." (You don't say "Take me a glass of wine, waiter" when ordering for yourself.) The waiter either brings you the item, or he takes it to someone else. That "Lucifer" means "light-bringer" and not "light-giver" signifies that he is the waiter/servant, not the person who does the ordering or commanding.

But the name is more properly translated "light-bearer," also suggesting subordinate status. We learn from Scripture: Jesus is God, he has a throne seated at the right hand of the Father, is called the Light, and Lucifer was "a covering cherub" meaning he attended the throne of Christ in the heavenly kingdom. Thrones are carried by using staves, rods inserted through rings at the base, which allow the thrones to be transported by servants, for ceremonial purposes. This was Satan's role---he was a bearer of the Light, of Christ on His throne. African kings practice this custom to this very day. If you have ever seen the scene when Egyptian queen Cleopatra enters Rome in the magnificent film with Elizabeth Taylor and Rex Harrison in those roles (and Richard Burton as Marc Anthony), then you would have an idea of what being "light-bearer" entailed. (See link below.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A88thSR8qZ0

He coveted the throne in his pride, and attempted a coup, suckering a third of the angels to rebel with him. Lucifer isn't even his name; it is his former job description. We don't know his real name, because to have one's name blotted out is a great punishment in Scripture; he sought to make his name great, so it is not recorded in Scripture, meaning no one ever can praise it or honor it, guaranteeing that he will be forgotten for eternity. The Devil is the prince of this world according to the Gospel of John. Princes are subordinate to kings, and Christ is KING OF KINGS. Satan appears before God in the beginning of the Book of Job, giving an account of his doings to the king in whose court he has been summoned and ordered to do so. He also can do nothing which God disallowed him to do to Job, meaning, again, that he is a subordinate and must obey God.

Lucifer is his former job description; Satan is his current role or title (it is from the Greek word for "adversary"), and Devil (from the Latin for a subordinate evil spirit) is the definition of the noun describing him as an entity.

Lucifer = former job description Satan = current occupation Devil = descriptive noun of the type of being he is Prince of this world = title

We do not know and will not ever know his real name, as that is part of his punishment, because of his pride. He is called Satan, meat adversary, because he is also called the Accuser. He acts as the prosecuting attorney in Father's heavenly court, accusing us by calling to attention our sinfulness. Jesus is called wonderful counselor, because He acts as our defense attorney before the Father. In a court of law, you may represent yourself or have a counselor approach the bench on your behalf. Christ imputes HIS righteousness to us when standing before the Father when we accept Christ, therefore we are found not guilty at the White Throne Judgment, because the perfect innocence of Christ, through His sacrifice, is extended to us. Jesus paid the bond price to set us free until the trial, and then He gets the charges dropped once there.

14 days ago
1 score
Reason: Original

You are correct. Lucifer is a description, and Satan is a title. Here is the thing which the Theosophists do not grasp. Lucifer means "light-bearer" --sometimes translated as "light-bringer". BOTH of those translations reveal that he is a subordinate or servant of the heavenly godhead.

The person who brings something is taking it to someone having command over him, whereas a light-giver is the source of authority or the originator of the thing brought. A light-bringer is not a light-giver; the light-bringer is sent or summoned by the master, the light-giver is the master commanding the servant to bring it to him.

A king commands that a subordinate bring some wine to the feast. The subordinate brings it. The king orders the subordinate to take a letter to the prince. The subordinate takes the letter to the prince. The word "bring" is used when something is to be given to yourself: "Bring me my bill, waiter." The word "take" is used when something is to be given to someone else: "Waiter, take a glass of wine to that pretty woman and put it on my bill." (You don't say "Take me a glass of wine, waiter" when ordering for yourself.) The waiter either brings you the item, or he takes it to someone else. That "Lucifer" means "light-bringer" and not "light-giver" signifies that he is the waiter/servant, not the person who does the ordering or commanding.

But the name is more properly translated "light-bearer," also suggesting subordinate status. We learn from Scripture: Jesus is God, he has a throne seated at the right hand of the Father, is called the Light, and Lucifer was "a covering cherub" meaning he attended the throne of Christ in the heavenly kingdom. Thrones are carried by using staves, rods inserted through rings at the base, which allow the thrones to be transported by servants, for ceremonial purposes. This was Satan's role---he was a bearer of the Light, of Christ on His throne. African kings practice this custom to this very day. If you have ever seen the scene when Egyptian queen Cleopatra enters Rome in the magnificent film with Elizabeth Taylor and Rex Harrison in those roles (and Richard Burton as Marc Anthony), then you would have an idea of what being "light-bearer" entailed. (See link below.) He coveted the throne in his pride, and attempted a coup, suckering a third of the angels to rebel with him.

Lucifer isn't even his name; it is his former job description. We don't know his real name, because to have one's name blotted out is a great punishment in Scripture; he sought to make his name great, so it is not recorded in Scripture, meaning no one ever can praise it or honor it, guaranteeing that he will be forgotten for eternity. The Devil is the prince of this world according to the Gospel of John. Princes are subordinate to kings, and Christ is KING OF KINGS. Satan appears before God in the beginning of the Book of Job, giving an account of his doings to the king in whose court he has been summoned and ordered to do so. He also can do nothing which God disallowed him to do to Job, meaning, again, that he is a subordinate and must obey God.

14 days ago
1 score