These types of comments come from either retards or feds.

But the OP asks "at what point? This is a reasonable theoretical question and the plainest answer is "when powerful and well-placed people decide it is time." Just like in the War for Independence.

Revolutions, you see, always come from the top. The organization, the funding and the requisite destabilization are always instigated from the top. Sometimes revolutions develop out of the circumstances created by war; two good examples of this are the Russian Revolution and the Chinese Maoist Revolution, but even the shambles of those two massive world wars was not enough to SELECT and SUPPLY one winning side over another.

In Russia, Germany provided a lot of money and support for Lenin and his pals.

In China, it was the US State Department and the War Department and perhaps above all the US mass media - their politics especially but also their materiel - that crucially enabled the Chinese Communists.

So there is your answer. There will be a revolution against the current state of affairs that you object to in the United States - deep state control I assume - when some already-powerful force decides to intervene. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFETIME.

So, friend, if you desire change, you have only two remaining hopes:

1. The utter destruction of the US economny to the point that people are dying of starvation. That may produce the impetus for decisive elite involvement that you desire. Or it may not.

2. Fixing those things that are in front of you and that you can fix. For this issue, see my next comment.

These types of comments come from either retards or feds.

But the OP asks "at what point? This is a reasonable theoretical question and the plainest answer is "when powerful and well-placed people decide it is time." Just like in the War for independence.

Revolutions, you see, always come from the top. The organization, the funding and the requisite destabilization are always instigated from the top. Sometimes revolutions develop out of the circumstances created by war; two good examples of this are the Russian Revolution and the Chinese Maoist Revolution, but even the shambles of those two massive world wars was not enough to SELECT and SUPPLY one winning side over another.

In Russia, Germany provided a lot of money and support for Lenin and his pals.

In China, it was the US State Department and the War Department and perhaps above all the US mass media - their politics especially but also their materiel - that crucially enabled the Chinese Communists.

So there is your answer. There will be a revolution against the current state of affairs that you object to in the United States - deep state control I assume - when some already-powerful force decides to intervene. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFETIME.

So, friend, if you desire change, you have only two remaining hopes:

1. The utter destruction of the US economny to the point that people are dying of starvation. That may produce the impetus for decisive elite involvement that you desire. Or it may not.

2. Fixing those things that are in front of you and that you can fix. For this issue, see my next comment.