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Reason: None provided.

People assume that though I've not seen that it's clear. Just he didn't want to get in the car. I believe that he resisted by just falling on the ground so they would have to carry him in or something. I've yet to find footage of how he ends up on his front like that.

It's possible he was having an issue before hand but it's not easy or necessarily even possible to tell that from the effects of intoxication, emotion, etc.

Carotid and hypoventilation are very subtle. It's hard to say if they're likely on their own. Carotid damage or compression could conceivably cause secondary effects. The nose bleed isn't well looked into. On thing can lead to another.

Three minutes is close to the time needed for brain death to start but at the same time usually would give time for a chance of revival as well.

This is in part why its stupid they completely ignored his state. In the off chance they were doing something to precipitate or exacerbate it they wouldn't have found out continuing to restrain him like that.

They failed to eliminate themselves as a causative factor which is something that even reasonable people don't find very competent.

Heart attack or stroke is more plausible an explanation which is why it's picking up traction.

320 days ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

People assume that though I've not seen that it's clear. Just he didn't want to get in the car. I believe that he resisted by just falling on the ground so they would have to carry him in or something. I've yet to find footage of how he ends up on his front like that.

It's possible he was having an issue before hand but it's not easy or necessarily even possible to tell that from the effects of intoxication, emotion, etc.

Carotid and hypoventilation are very subtle. It's hard to say if they're likely on their own. Carotid damage or compression could conceivably cause secondary effects. The nose bleed isn't well looked into.

Three minutes is close to the time needed for brain death to start but at the same time usually would give time for a chance of revival as well.

This is in part why its stupid they completely ignored his state. In the off chance they were doing something to precipitate or exacerbate it they wouldn't have found out continuing to restrain him like that.

They failed to eliminate themselves as a causative factor which is something that even reasonable people don't find very competent.

Heart attack or stroke is more plausible an explanation which is why it's picking up traction.

320 days ago
1 score
Reason: Original

People assume that though I've not seen that it's clear. Just he didn't want to get in the car. I believe that he resisted by just falling on the ground so they would have to carry him in or something. I've yet to find footage of how he ends up on his front like that.

It's possible he was having an issue before hand but it's not easy or necessarily even possible to tell that from the effects of intoxication, emotion, etc.

Carotid and hypoventilation are very subtle. It's hard to say if they're likely on their own. Carotid damage or compression could conceivably cause secondary effects. The nose bleed isn't well looked into.

Three minutes is close to the time needed for brain death to start but at the same time usually would give time for a chance of revival as well.

This is in part why its stupid they completely ignores his state. In the off chance they were doing something to precipitate or exacerbate it they wouldn't have found out continuing to restrain him like that.

Heart attack or stroke is more plausible an explanation which is why it's picking up traction.

320 days ago
1 score