Well Hitler and the Nazis disagree with you, certainly thought they were Socialists, and named themselves accordingly. Socialism is state (central) control over the means of production and is frequently confused with Socialist parties and movements that add other, frequently differing, beliefs such as worker advocacy, war-opposition, environmentalism, etc. Trying to argue that they aren't Socialist base on disagreements on those additional issues is just people engaging in the the no-true-Scotsman fallacy. Furthermore, some argue that since Nazis left many business owners in control of their companies, they didn't control the means. However, they dictated everything that mattered to those business and in effect, they formed the same control hierarchy that a Communist government would set up over production.

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Well Hitler and the Nazis disagree with you, certainly thought they were Socialists, and named themselves accordingly. Socialism is state (central) control over the means of production and is frequently confused with Socialist parties and movements that add other, frequently differing, beliefs such as war-opposition or environmentalism. Trying to argue that they aren't Socialist base on disagreements on those additional issues is just people engaging in the the no-true-Scotsman fallacy. Furthermore, some argue that since Nazis left many business owners in control of their companies, they didn't control the means. However, they dictated everything that mattered to those business and in effect, they formed the same control hierarchy that a Communist government would set up over production.