No matter how this voting-drama turns out, the supreme court should be able to name Trump the president. They have the final say.

This is completely and utterly false. The Constitution and US legal code is quite clear that each individual state has great latitude in choosing electors. Federal courts may step in under limited circumstances. The Supreme Court may ultimately step in, but to assume they will do so in a way that wins us the election is an assumption that even Rudy Giuliani has stated is not assured.

While courts have stepped in to change election results, they are understandably reluctant to do so, and they very rarely take steps that overturn results.

Here's a link to the federal law governing election of the President:

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/[email protected]/chapter1&edition=prelim

You can read it yourself. The following are what I think are some important facts and dates.

The individual states, through their electors in the Electoral College, decide who the President is and that result is ultimately adjudicated by a joint session of Congress.

The votes for Electors are being separately counted in the various 50 states and the District of Columbia. Those will start being certified in the next week. Any redress through individual state legislatures to override the selection of their states' electors must be completed six days before the Electoral College votes on the first Monday following the second Wednesday of December. I have seen no meaningful indication that that will happen. I would be pleased to see evidence to the contrary.

January 6 is when Congress meets to process the vote of the Electoral College. That is the earliest date that we will know for sure who is the true President-Elect, who will be inaugurated at noon on January 20, as required by the 20th Amendment to the Constitution. It is likely that Congress' decision will be a foregone conclusion before January 6. It is likely that the Electoral College's vote will be a foregone conclusion before they convene December 14.

I also know that Trump can take actions from now to January 20 to preserve his legacy and promote future victories even if this election for President is lost. Energies and time spent pursuing a doubtful win cannot be spent mitigating the ill effects of a likely loss to Joe Biden.

We cannot allow our passion to override our reason. The passion of your arguments is commendable. The basis of fact behind your arguments is poor.

I hope events prove your passion well-founded, and my reasoning erroneous. I also think there's still a chance we win this thing, and it will certainly take both passion and reason to win. Let us not let reason extinguish our passion, nor passion dull our wits.

But I am sick of people trying to outdo each other in hyperbolic claims of certain victory. This hubris sunk Hillary and I wonder if it ended up sinking us.

No matter how this voting-drama turns out, the supreme court should be able to name Trump the president. They have the final say.

This is completely and utterly false. The Constitution and US legal code is quite clear that each individual state has great latitude in choosing electors. Federal courts may step in under limited circumstances. The Supreme Court may ultimately step in, but to assume they will do so in a way that wins us the election is an assumption that even Rudy Giuliani has stated is not assured.

While courts have stepped in to change election results, they are understandably reluctant to do so, and they very rarely take steps that overturn results.

Here's a link to the federal law governing election of the President:

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/[email protected]/chapter1&edition=prelim

You can read it yourself. The following are what I think are some important facts and dates.

The individual states, through their electors in the Electoral College, decide who the President is and that result is ultimately adjudicated by a joint session of Congress.

The votes for Electors are being separately counted in the various 50 states and the District of Columbia. Those will start being certified in the next week. Any redress through individual state legislatures to override the selection of their states' electors must be completed six days before the Electoral College votes on the first Monday following the second Wednesday of December. I have seen no meaningful indication that that will happen. I would be pleased to see evidence to the contrary.

January 6 is when Congress meets to process the vote of the Electoral College. That is the earliest date that we will know for sure who is the true President-Elect, who will be inaugurated at noon on January 20, as required by the 20th Amendment to the Constitution. It is likely that Congress' decision will be a foregone conclusion before January 6. It is likely that the Electoral College's vote will be a foregone conclusion before they convene December 14.

I also know that Trump can take actions from now to January 20 to preserve his legacy and promte future vivtories even if this election for President is lost. Energies and time spent pursuing a doubtful win cannot be spent mitigating the ill effects of a likely loss to Joe Biden.

We cannot allow our passion to override our reason. The passion of your arguments is commendable. The basis of fact behind your arguments is poor.

I hope events prove your passion well-founded, and my reasoning erroneous. I also think there's still a chance we win this thing, and it will certainly take both passion and reason to win. Let us not let reason extinguish our passion, nor passion dull our wits.

But I am sick of people trying to outdo each other in hyperbolic claims of certain victory. This hubris sunk Hillary and I wonder if it ended up sinking us.