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I don't claim to be an expert in Blockchain, I'm not writing my own coin software or anything. However, I am a developer with 20+ years experience in many languages. I also have a great interest in Physics including Quantum physics, but again I'm not expert. So please take all this with a grain of salt and use the information how you see fit. Its one of my longest posts, but hopefully informative to everyone.

I've seen several posts now about Watermarking ballots and some QFS system. Then I see this post and at first I'm very dismissive. But then the wheels started turning. Dr Charlie claims Blockchain and QFS as he called it Quantum Financial System were used along side the standard voting reporting system whatever that is. Here is my thoughts on how that could be.

First, understand what Blockchain is. Banks in very simple terms keep a central ledger that tracks the balances of all their customers. Modifies it based on transactions coming from many different sources. Blockchain aims to decentralize that ledger of accounts. Meaning everyone who holds Blockchain coins in essence has the entirety of the ledger. Anything added or subtracted to that ledger requires a computer network and a complicated math/encryption algorithm to verify every transaction. And when people connect to the network to use their coins, their "wallet" first has to be updated from the massive network of machines and brought up to date and verified by everyone else. Using your password that you setup on the wallet means you can only decrypt and read the portion of the ledger that belongs to you. Its how cryptocurrency is completely anonymous.

Now onto understanding QFS. What is Quantum Financial System? My best guess since I can't find any information on this. Is that its a method of secure communication between two points and detecting breaches. You might be saying, "We already have that! Its called SSL! HTTPS uses it to secure your communications over the internet to the bank!" You are partially right. BUT. Lets say that encryption was broken, or a third party had the private key. They could decrypt the traffic on the internet and read your transactions with the bank. You wouldn't know the encryption was broken and someone was seeing your internet traffic. Quantum communications has been "theorized" to solve that by using entanglement. In super simple terms, (this is Quantum physics, explaining simply is HARD!) in a quantum system, lets say there are 4 states (up, down, left, right) that a particle can be in, but you don't know what state it is till its measured. Quantum physics says that the particle is actually occupying all states (a superposition of states) until you measure it and a single state is chosen. No one can really explain how that works or how a state is chosen on observation. Here is where it gets weird(er). Its possible to entangle two particles together, then separate them to great distances if necessary. When you measure one of the particles, you now get it to collapse to 1 of the states. So lets say you measure it and you get "UP". You can then instantly know that the other particle is the opposite state. In this case the second particle would be "DOWN". This has been "Theorized" to allow you to setup communications in such a way that if someone manages to tap into the line, or "hack the encryption" and read the data somewhere between the sender and receiver, that it would prematurely collapse the quantum state of the particles. This collapsing from a superposition of 4 possible states into a single state is a signal to the sender and receiver that the communications have been compromised somewhere in the middle. Here is more information written much better than my explaination.

So WTF did I just explain all this? Well Blockchain certainly can't be "watermarked" onto a ballot. So I think that theory can be dismissed. All the States MUST be dumping their results comming off the machines into some central database somewhere. Depending on how old this system is, its possible that states can just update/correct the information at will and there may not be any real historical tracking to see previous values etc. BUT If there was a Blockchain like ledger tracking the "accounts" of each State. You would be able to have a complete historical account of how the numbers change. Not only that, but if each of the states received the transactions of the others, they could each verify on the network if the transaction was legit. I imagine a system like this would be very new and perhaps still in Beta. So maybe it was running along side the existing system?

How does QFS fit in? Well what if the connections between the States and central repository was compromised? Meaning someone intercepts the vote tally being sent to the central Database, and instead sent fraudulent numbers. A Quantum communication system would know the communications are breached.

Here is where my theory could easily breakdown to all this talk of Blockchain and QFS being a LARP.

  1. Blockchain voting is being designed to be done at the VOTER level. In other-words, once you register to vote, you would get a "VoteCoin" wallet for lack of a better word with a single "coin/vote" in the wallet. When you vote, you basically transfer that 1 coin into the State Candidates wallet. The candidate with the most Coins "votes" wins. A network of decentralized computers would ideally be verifying each transactions. THIS is obviously not how we voted. So using blockchain only for State to Central updates is leaving wide open the fraud at the Dominion machines to modify the total before its even transmitted.
  2. Quantum communications is still mostly Theoretical. Some successful tests have been done; but as far as I know, it is still very very early in development. So unless some major leaps have been made, I couldn't imagine its already in operation let alone installed in every state in the location they transmit the data. Not to mention in every location IN state where the counties and districts transmit to the central state location.

Conclusion. I am skeptical, mostly because of points 1 and 2 being major show stoppers. I hope you pedes got something from this. Careful of all the fantastical "TRUMP CAUGHT THEM WITH x MAGICAL TECH" stories out there.

158 days ago
4 score
Reason: Original

I don't claim to be an expert in Blockchain, I'm not writing my own coin software or anything. However, I am a developer with 20+ years experience in many languages. I also have a great interest in Physics including Quantum physics, but again I'm not expert. So please take all this with a grain of salt and use the information how you see fit. Its one of my longest posts, but hopefully informative to everyone.

I've seen several posts now about Watermarking ballots and some QFS system. Then I see this post and at first I'm very dismissive. But then the wheels started turning. Dr Charlie claims Blockchain and QFS as he called it Quantum Financial System were used along side the standard voting reporting system whatever that is. Here is my thoughts on how that could be.

First, understand what Blockchain is. Banks in very simple terms keep a central ledger that tracks the balances of all their customers. Modifies it based on transactions coming from many different sources. Blockchain aims to decentralize that ledger of accounts. Meaning everyone who holds Blockchain coins in essence has the entirety of the ledger. Anything added or subtracted to that ledger requires a computer network and a complicated math/encryption algorithm to verify every transaction. And when people connect to the network to use their coins, their "wallet" first has to be updated from the massive network of machines and brought up to date and verified by everyone else. Using your password that you setup on the wallet means you can only decrypt and read the portion of the ledger that belongs to you. Its how cryptocurrency is completely anonymous.

Now onto understanding QFS. What is Quantum Financial System? My best guess since I can't find any information on this. Is that its a method of secure communication between two points and detecting breaches. You might be saying, "We already have that! Its called SSL! HTTPS uses it to secure your communications over the internet to the bank!" You are partially right. BUT. Lets say that encryption was broken, or a third party had the private key. They could decrypt the traffic on the internet and read your transactions with the bank. You cannot not know the encryption was broken and someone was seeing your internet traffic. Quantum communications has been "theorized" to solve that by using entanglement. In super simple terms, (this is Quantum physics, explaining simply is HARD!) in a quantum system, lets say there are 4 states (up, down, left, right) that a particle can be in, but you don't know what state it is till its measured. Quantum physics says that the particle is actually occupying all states (a superposition of states) until you measure it and a single state is chosen. No one can really explain how that works or how a state is chosen on observation. Here is where it gets weird(er). Its possible to entangle two particles together, then separate them to great distances if necessary. When you measure one of the particles, you now get it to collapse to 1 of the states. So lets say you measure it and you get "UP". You can then instantly know that the other particle is the opposite state. In this case the second particle would be "DOWN". This has been "Theorized" to allow you to setup communications in such a way that if someone manages to tap into the line, or "hack the encryption" and read the data somewhere between the sender and receiver, that it would prematurely collapse the quantum state of the particles. This collapsing from a superposition of 4 possible states into a single state is a signal to the sender and receiver that the communications have been compromised somewhere in the middle. Here is more information written much better than my explaination.

So WTF did I just explain all this? Well Blockchain certainly can't be "watermarked" onto a ballot. So I think that theory can be dismissed. All the States MUST be dumping their results comming off the machines into some central database somewhere. Depending on how old this system is, its possible that states can just update/correct the information at will and there may not be any real historical tracking to see previous values etc. BUT If there was a Blockchain like ledger tracking the "accounts" of each State. You would be able to have a complete historical account of how the numbers change. Not only that, but if each of the states received the transactions of the others, they could each verify on the network if the transaction was legit. I imagine a system like this would be very new and perhaps still in Beta. So maybe it was running along side the existing system?

How does QFS fit in? Well what if the connections between the States and central repository was compromised? Meaning someone intercepts the vote tally being sent to the central Database, and instead sent fraudulent numbers. A Quantum communication system would know the communications are breached.

Here is where my theory could easily breakdown to all this talk of Blockchain and QFS being a LARP.

  1. Blockchain voting is being designed to be done at the VOTER level. In other-words, once you register to vote, you would get a "VoteCoin" wallet for lack of a better word with a single "coin/vote" in the wallet. When you vote, you basically transfer that 1 coin into the State Candidates wallet. The candidate with the most Coins "votes" wins. A network of decentralized computers would ideally be verifying each transactions. THIS is obviously not how we voted. So using blockchain only for State to Central updates is leaving wide open the fraud at the Dominion machines to modify the total before its even transmitted.
  2. Quantum communications is still mostly Theoretical. Some successful tests have been done; but as far as I know, it is still very very early in development. So unless some major leaps have been made, I couldn't imagine its already in operation let alone installed in every state in the location they transmit the data. Not to mention in every location IN state where the counties and districts transmit to the central state location.

Conclusion. I am skeptical, mostly because of points 1 and 2 being major show stoppers. I hope you pedes got something from this. Careful of all the fantastical "TRUMP CAUGHT THEM WITH x MAGICAL TECH" stories out there.

158 days ago
1 score