I never implied anything about you and racial superiority, that was about my own beliefs. You took that assumption upon yourself. And my points are extremely clear, and as far as I can deduce, truthful. You may think I'm wrong, but I think you're wrong. If you disagree with my ideas, fine, that's great. Backup your assertion with logic or data, and you might change my mind
However, in my original post you implied that I was being disingenuous (a liar by omission) and afraid to tell the truth, and this second post you're now saying that I'm indoctrinated and afraid to tell the truth. I let it the insults slide the first time, because your ability to compose proper sentence structure told me that you were probably a little slow. However, a second time? Hell no. Momma didn't raise a bitch. Your ideas are shit and you imply passive-aggressive insults like a girl. And now? I'm just gonna troll whatever weak ass response your low IQ brain can muster
I don’t care about looking bad, I talk shit daily here about the ancap/ libertarian ideology being just as bad for America as the commies. Race is important, true. But the Truth is that God created every man and woman, and some races tend to be blessed with great physical genetics, where others tend to blessed with superior intelligence, etc. Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson have commanding intellects, and have contributed more to American culture than white trailer trash. Do I hate white trailer trash? No, but I tend to avoid them about just as much as I try to avoid black ghetto thugs.
However, our language is how we comprehend reality, and you can’t change skin color. So stop obsessing about something you and I can do nothing to change, and start worrying about the things you can change. Like calling people out saying crap like ‘democracy’ instead of ‘republic,’ or that there are more than two genders
Politics is downstream from culture, culture is downstream from language. The left understands this, if you change the language, you change the culture, and thus politics. Language is the key to how humans perceive in reality, for example, a certain Amazonian tribe doesn’t have any number words, and are thus unable to count or accurately communicate their observations
Easy mode: any time someone says America is a democracy, immediately correct them with, “no, it’s a republic.” The left literally changed the word ‘republic’ to ‘representative democracy,’ then shortened it to just ‘democracy.’ The commies then whipped up their retarded base when Hilary lost muh popular vote, creating the impression that Trump was an illegitimate president for four years
Hard mode: endure the harpies screeching at you when you announce that there are only two genders
Libertarianism is just as ridiculous as communism. What can you say though, both ideologies pretend that fundamental nature of man doesn't exist
We worship God in America, not the free market
It's still funny to me, dammit
ATM Machine
Ass-to-Mouth Machine
The joke fits too well here
My wife's leftist friend since childhood is impervious to red pilling, despite her best attempts
Just this weekend, she blamed Trump for the high gas prices
That’s what libertarianism is all about, big business and the deep state. Koch’s, Mercers, Chamber of Commerce et al
The Bolshevik elite promised their supporters paradise, but the people ended up living in hell. The libertarians have been promising their supporters an unregulated paradise of individual liberty since the 70s, but it’s only ever gotten worse in America. And just like how the Bolsheviks were the spoiled rich kids of their day, so are the libertarian intelligentsia. I’ve worked with CATO scholars before, they’re extremely elitist in that they say they want what’s best for the country but then make jokes about the smelly Walmart people amongst themselves
Austrian school economics is like Marxian economics, based on assumptions and false understandings of human nature. It’s utopian fantasy
Sure, and the commies want you to believe that all they want is class equality /s. And thanks, first time I’ve been called a shill. Means I’m pissing people off
Open your eyes and ears fren, because by their fruits you shall know them. Libertarians and communists have BOTH ruined this country, because they’re both foreign globalist ideologies. I’m not going to talk about the commie left, because nearly everyone here already knows about them.
Beginning in the 1970s, lolbertarians (and neocons) infected the Republican Party with their BS, pretending to represent traditional American conservatism. Sure, they talk a big game about how we need moar liberty and moar individualism, but that’s it, it’s all talk. While spitting this game at well-meaning Americans, the libertarians have managed to achieve massive corporate and financial deregulation, while somehow never managing to accomplish the same for small businesses and the middle class. Only Trump managed to do that for us, and he had to flex hard with the EOs to accomplish this
Neocons were RINO globalists with a foreign policy of endless wars, which we mostly rooted out (in fact, neocons were leftists in the 70s who magically realized that they were really always conservative). Libertarians are RINO globalists whose Austrian school economic ideology has hollowed out the American interior and gutted the American middle class. They push for free trade, endless legal and illegal immigration, and disavow the entire concept of the nation-state
TL;DR - America’s getting double-dicked from both ends of globalism. No rules for Big Tech elite and friends, a destroyed middle class, and socialism without consent for the poors. AKA Neofeudalismr
Of course those shills at the Heritage Foundation betrayed Trump - they embraced libertarian economic philosophy. The Austrian school of economics is a foreign ideology pretending represent a return to America’s roots, when in fact it’s doing the exact opposite
FYI, the Founding Fathers and subsequent generations greatly disliked Adam Smith and rejected the Wealth of Nations. They termed it the ‘British system’, whereas Hamilton laid the bones for the ‘American system,’ which propelled America into superpower status. We know this ‘British system’ today as globalism, while Trump’s policies were a return to the ‘American system’
At least take some with you before you decide it’s time to clock out
Edit: Saw your other comment below, u/Reticulatus. For clarification, I was thinking you were talking about if/when the KGB FBI began rounding up Patriots for the leftist gulags. Please don’t preemptively suicide yourself, this Republic ain’t done yet
Maybe someday I’d like to lose everything, for a period of time, to see who’s loyal and who’s not loyal.
-Donald Trump
Kiss the ring, faggots
I downvoted it because muh lolbertarianism. Y’all know the uniparty/swamp/deep state, right?Libertarianism = the globalist swamp pretending to be classical liberalism
I hate to pull this up, bc it’s the weakest argument against libertarianism, but I’m on the bike at the gym. The intellectual arm of lolbertarianism is the Austrian school of economics. Like Communism, there's always this particular group of people who keep turning up. Perhaps you’ve noticed them in other areas life, such as occupying the top rungs of the MSM and finance
Hint: Look up the ancestry of Murray Rothbard, Ludwig von Mises, and Friedrich Hayek
And that is called paying the DaneJamal-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the DaneJamal-geld.
You never get rid of the DaneJamal.
Just wanted some clarification, but I agree with you 100%. Also I’ll throw in my pet peeve. I’ve been noticing lots of shilling for ancaps and libertarianism around here lately
Current conservatism has been hijacked by libertarianism (Koch brothers, Mercers, et al), which is just globalism masquerading as classical liberalism. “Ye shall know them by their fruits;” what fruits are those? Beginning in the 1970s, the libertarians have pushed for government deregulation, free trade, and open borders.
Most conservatives can get behind more govt deregulation, except what actually happened is that there was massive corporate deregulation with a simultaneous increase on regulations for everyone else. The “conservatives” worked just enough to get their corporate donors what they wanted, and then allowed the commie Democrats to push their agenda of control
Most conservatives can agree that increased international commerce is a good thing, except that free trade has allowed the titans of industry/finance to chase profits at the expense of hollowing out our country and harming national security (China)
Most conservatives thought increased immigration would be a good thing, except that that what happened is that “conservative” leaders influenced by the libertarian thought virus encouraged lax enforcement of border controls. They also endorsed the restructuring of legal immigration from focusing on compatible Western migrants to focusing on Third World scum (for the cheap labor of course)
Libertarianism needs to be lanced out of conservative thought, with Trump and MAGA being the scalpel
^This, there are no leftists among grunts, that would mean that they’d actually have to do some hard work for once. There are only two groups in the infantry - the right and politically agnostic.
Source: me too
What do you mean that conservatism has to be destroyed?
While classical liberalism, of which most libertarian strains claim to represent, was an influence on the Founding Fathers, classical republicanism (along with virtù) was the dominant worldview. Imo, probably only the major FF who could be described as having a worldview that was more classically liberal than classically republican would be Thomas Jefferson. He absolutely did not agree with Hamilton's economic views, at least until he became president and then later after we got our asses whooped by the British in 1812
And that's another problem with libertarianism, its not ideologically consistent. HHH's take on it seems especially torturous, starting with getting everyone to agree to a specific social contract - and if you don't, you'll be ethnically ideologically cleansed from the nation. To make this work, some centralized group will have to make a determination on who's espousing wrongthink, and then determine on how to coordinate their physical removal. Sounds like the beginnings of totalitarian government to me
Wasn’t America 90% white when women’s suffrage happened? Lol anyways, I agree, women getting the vote, along with the 16th and 17th amendments were the catalysts for where were at now
America still practiced economic nationalism back then, so it wasn’t really libertarian. However, I agree that government didn’t encroach on individual liberties nearly as much as it does today. And yes, you’re correct that demographic change and socialism are some of the main the causes for our societal degeneration. However, lolbertarianism encourages open borders and the free movements of people, which creates a spiral effect for more socialism
Do a search for “American system vs British system, economics,” hopefully you’ll begin to see that libertarianism in America is the best thing that the globalist elites could have hoped for
The ideology overemphasizes liberty to the point of societal destruction. In lolbertarian thinking for example, open borders, the legalization of all drugs, abortion etc are personal choices that have no bearing on anything else whatsoever. Nevermind that these things disintegrate culture, tradition, religion, charity, and family - the bulwarks that have stood between individuals and the government erodes. Pushers for statism and big government then see an opportunity to expand into these area that society once took care of itself. Like welfare, govt healthcare, etc. Ironically, without these societal barriers, government can now more directly interface with individuals. The very things that the lolbertarians wanted to avoid in the first place
Therefore, NOBODY should have a monopoly on the use of force.
Lots of shoulds in lolbertarianism, almost as much as in communism. Replace “use of force” from the above with “means of production.” In theoretical communism, nobody has a monopoly on the means of production, until they do. Lolbertarianism is also great in theory, until an organized force with superior firepower, be it a new government, foreign nation, or corporation, comes along
I hear you, and you’re right in that that big L libertarianism has changed, but I’ve come to realize that little L libertarianism has always been intellectually empty. It’s an economic ideology adopted wholeheartedly by the elite class and the uniparty. While the left side (Democrats) of the uniparty keep pushing for big government to the point of communism, the right side (Republicans) worships the market to the point of societal breakdown, thus allowing communism to continue its march
I guess you can call me a classical liberal as well. Also, probably a populist conservative, economic nationalist, rabid Constitutionalist, whatevs, I just wanna MAGA
There is no social order in lolbertarianism. In fact, lolbertarian philosophy taking off in the 1970s is the major reason why the U.S. is in its current destabilized state. Massive deregulation of corporations, the tremendous exfiltration of American wealth to foreign lands, and the destruction of the middle class. All the result of this crappy ideology, so forgive me if I conclude that the fruits of libertarianism are rotten
Yes, most of those quotes are anarcho-lolbertarian pipe dreams. Suggesting that having nobody on the “throne” is a good idea gets you crap governments like the Articles of Confederation at best, or a weak society open to foreign domination at worst
Additionally, like communism, I suspect libertarianism is a meme pushed by elites to enrich themselves at the expense of the American middle class. Lolbertarian economic philosophy + neoclassical economic tools = the neoliberal ideology of the uniparty. The free trade espoused by the uniparty that’s screwed over MAGA is the hallmark of globalism
No, you aren’t crazy, and aren’t the first to notice. “The most loathsome after-birth of the [First] World War has been the revival of this internationalism which in its last analysis is nothing more than universal class rule. On the one hand the Soviet desires to control the entire world by the military arm of an enslaved laboring class. And on the part of certain captains of industry and finance there seems to be a determination to rule the universe through the agency of wealth." -Father Coughlin, 1930 Father Coughlin (the Rush of the 1930s) is a favorite bugbear of the left who they still like to bring up from time to time to slander, but his observations were clear-eyed. Internationalism = globalism, the Soviets were replaced by the CCP, and captains of industry and finance are now led by Big Tech
Edit: Forgot to add that part of the reason why Soviet communism got destroyed was due to CoCom and the tighter implementation of export controls. By the late 70s/early 80’s it was clear that the Soviets had fallen behind the U.S. in military technology (e.g. by >5 years for computers. Patriots implemented export controls to stop the leak of Western technology that the Soviets used to stay relevant
The globalists’ role becomes spotlighted when you realize that concurrently in the 1970s, free trade orthodoxy began to be pushed hard culturally across the West. Free trade allows easier circumvention of export controls and drains middle class wealth while enriching the elite.
Meanwhile, China began to somehow simultaneously reform its communist system to accept free market principles. While pretending to be free market, the American non-globalist elite gullibly off-shored our country to China
I'm white, faggot. More importantly, I'm American
Race obsession is for low IQ fake Americans