Can we trust Dan? I used to think we could trust Pence, but that went out the window. Does it really sound like Trump for him to concede using an intermediary? I am sure if he called up CNN and said he wanted to concede they would have a news van out side the White House within seconds.
It took some time, but finally someone gave an adequate explanation on how it isn't a concession speech in this thread. If you rather not explain your reasoning if someone asks, may you guide them to this thread at least?
If the election results were rigged, then overruling the election results wouldn't be treason. Legitimizing them would be. Even then Pence could've just sent it back to the states like Trump asked (Trump never said Pence needed to say "Trump wins").
Honestly it would need to get better for a lion party in 2022 because currently every election from the ground up is rigged. So we would need to overcome that for voting to mean anything.
So far, our only hope is Trump. If Biden walks into the WH, it is over. No do overs, no second chances, no we will get 'em next time.
We had an election stolen from us while we were in power. Now the plan is to run a candidate in a stolen election when we are not in power? The only reason we won 2016 is because the left was over confident. Hillary thought Trump was a buffoon and so didn't use Obama's rigging apparatus. That hubris is once in a life time. The left will never make that mistake again.
Democracy is dead.
First off I am not ashamed of being a monarchist. The word itself makes up a bit over half of my username. But Fine. If you want to assume I am a troll because (hilariously) I trust Trump a great deal. Go ahead. Look at everyone else on this comment chain though.
u/Pedeville wrote: "Can you transition something from yourself to yourself? Weird way to say it anyways, and I do realize the pompeo 'peaceful transition.... to trumps second term' but that was a 'in the moment' comment"
u/Observation wrote: "How about this one: "Even though I hate going to the dentist, nevertheless I do what needs to be done. "Is the person planning to go to the dentist or no?"
Both of these are valid points in the wording department.
Or u/SwarmIntel who wrote what appears to be a valid explanation: "No, not conceded. But you know he has accepted that Biden will be inaugurated on January 20?"
This meshes up with what we heard from Trump (He will never concede) while also meshing up with what Dan is saying. He still stands by the election being a sham.
Is everyone here in the chain a shill but you? I highly doubt it. We just want some answers. So can you kindly explain to one of them why you still believe what you believe so that I may read it and feel some hope? Or are you going to continue to make us look crazy by accusing anyone who doesn't have enough blind faith to make even a literal monarchist blush a shill? Once again: I have enough faith in Trump to entrust him with absolute power, yet even I am struggling to trying to find an explanation. Which is why I asked you in the first place. Not to argue about how it is all hopeless, but so that I can understand that it is NOT hopeless.
I don't know about you friend, but if I had answers and people here were feeling down. I do my hardest to raise their spirits.
Just like I did in this comment chain
I could keep going, but I think I proved how awful of a shill I am doing my damndest to spread hope to everyone on this board when I find someone is wavering.
Dude take two minutes to look at my post history. Here are some of my top comments:
"Down with the rotted republic. Long live King Donald!"
And not ten minutes ago I wrote: "God Save King Trump"
I am one of the few people here arguing that he should be granted 100% control of the government for life, The Constitution be damned. That alone should demonstrate how much I trust Trump. I then ask you to explain how this isn't a concession speech so that I can understand it. Because I trust Trump when he said he wasn't going to concede. So it is really hard to mesh that with what I am reading. Like u/Observation observed:
How about this one: "Even though I hate going to the dentist, nevertheless I do what needs to be done. "
Is the person planning to go to the dentist or no?
So since you have a great deal of confidence I would love to see the explanation so that I can share in that confidence and then share that confidence with others. Thats not someone being a shill. That is someone asking you to toss them a life preserver. Because I will trust Trump through a lot of dark things. I will not trust that he will win if he says its over though. This sounds like him saying its over if Dan is right.
Reagan said back in the 80s that America was the last stand. There is no where else to retreat too. Russia currently is a CCP puppet, Japan is nationalist (so non Japanese are 2nd class citizens) and is being infested with SJWism, China is nationalist as well.
This is it. There is no retreat. We get the government we deserve. Let us hope we deserve Trump.
God Save King Trump!
I am nuts then. Because it reads like a concession speech. He is saying he disagrees with the results, but there will be an orderly transition on the 20th.
At the same time he said yesterday he will never concede so I feel even more nuts. Help me out here?
Those people were actually Antifa (confirmed)
I wouldn't say confirmed on that. The image of Viking Guy at a BLM rally misses the context. The sign he is holding is pro-Q. He was a counter protestor. People here have been talking about how talk is over and what not for weeks. There was also talk about storming the Capital. There was even some French pede's thread on lessons to learn from the Yellow Vests.
I also wouldn't say you are wrong either. The left never lets a crisis go to waste. They would have one or two people in the crowd to ratchet up the tensions, and then the left would give the signal for Capital Police to let the angry mob inside the doors (after the politicians were evacuated of course). Why fight them when they could turn the situation to their own advantage?
Trump gave a speech behind bullet resistant glass. Then said he would lead us to march on the Capital. Speech ends, Trump gets whisked away (last time anyone sees him). Protests happen on capital. People manage to force their way in. Whether it was led by antifa or if the police let them through is being debated. Point is though a lot of Trump supporters did enter the capital. Nothing got burned or trashed. Though Nancy's office did get raided allegedly. Police kill an unarmed vet, deploy flashbangs and tear gas, and force everyone back. Trump comes out on a video (maybe faked, maybe not) telling everyone to return home. Pence stabs Trump in the back along with all but 6 people.
Lin Woods who was right about Pence is saying Trump is doing fine and is about to start arrests. Other people say Trump has been arrested/asssassinated.
tl;dr: You picked a hell of a day to miss out here.
Take back your states at the local level.
Its rigged at all levels. Dominion is not just for Presidential elections.
Conservatives are last year's liberals. Go back sixty years and Trump is a moderate leftist. You can go back even further too for more craziness. The left/right wing moniker comes from 1780s France where people who wanted a Republic sat on the left side of the King's Parliament and people who wanted Monarchy sat on the Right side of the King's Parliament. The leftists of those days were the people who believed only landowning white men should vote. The far left crazies were those who wanted to drop the landowning part.
Enlightenment Era values
Would the Enlightenment not be slave morality? The Enlightenment proclaimed that man is the center of all things which legitimized individualism. Individualism translates into egalitarianism when applied to society because when addressing individuals, one must affirm individualism for each of them, which can only be applied by removing social rules and restraints equally so that each may achieve maximum lack of oversight. Egalitarianism of course is the center of leftist dogma. They strive to make the world equal by force, because they see egalitarianism failing here. Despite all of our efforts to implement equality, there is still vast inequality. This forces us to either accept that egalitarianism is bunk, or that there is some force making people unequal.
In the former I believe he is a counter protestor (against BLM). His sign is pro-Q.
I would call LARP, but Lin correctly called out Pence. So I am eating some nice humble pie.
Just keep listening to Trump. I know many here don't trust Q or think Trump is a lost cause. I am not going to debate that either way. Point is: We have no other leaders. Trump currently is the only person in power we can trust. Running around like headless chickens ain't going to do no one here any good.
I think it was both legit and fake. People here have been talking about how talk is over and what not for weeks. There was also talk about storming the Capital. There was even some French pede's thread on lessons to learn from the Yellow Vests. At the same time, the left never lets a crisis go to waste. They would have one or two people in the crowd to ratchet up the tensions, and then the left would give the signal for Capital Police to let the angry mob inside the doors (after the politicians were evacuated of course). Why fight them when they could turn the situation to their own advantage?
Unless Trump stays in the White House, the only elections will be between Democrats and RINOs and the results preordained by the uniparty. Its a show, always has been.
The stupid response to all that is going on is to stop voting.
They stole 2020, and they stole the 2021 election in Georgia. Blatantly. If Trump isn't in power in the future, why is the smart thing to keep voting in rigged elections>?
Let us be smarter in 2022 and 2024
If the election was stolen in 2020, and again yesterday in 2021, why would you assume 2022 and 2024 would be any different?
Need a third party is the moral of the story.
Anyone who thinks voting works is delusional. Doesn't matter if its primaries or general, or for senator or dog catcher.
Slight typo: Capital is being stormed, not be stormed.
Now this is a prophecy I can get behind!