I hope after tomorrow there is a mass ban on Qtard horseshit and hopium.
We need people to not be distracted by pathetic garbage that damages our movement and to focus on what we can do going forward that does actually matter.
Q is a pathetic fucking joke and after tomorrow anyone saying otherwise is much the same.
It should be you, but you'll disappear along with the rest of the fucking Qtard degens who are living in fantasy land.
We mock the left for their retarded circle jerking over nothing and a good portion of you here are acting the exact same way.
This isn't the end of MAGA or Trump, but it's the end of this presidency for the time being.
If you can't accept that fact, you need a fucking reality check. It doesn't make you a doomer to accept reality, but it does make you a fucking goof for denying it.
Get off the hopium, there is work to do and screeching at the sky about some ridiculous LARP conspiracy last minute touchdown bullshit isn't the solution.
This was his last full day to pull off whatever ridiculous bullshit you people believed he would pull off and nothing happened, like we've been telling you for the past month.
Accept it, pull up your boot straps and move forward, don't be a pussy in denial like the lefties.
Since you argue solely on bad faith, I'm going to assume you're either a shitty shill or such a Qtard youre not worth talking to. Blocking you since you can't get the hint and are too petty to stop replying nonsense and blather.
How a. I supposed to give you a definitive answer? You're debating in bad faith. Q is a pseudonym that any idiot can label a post with on a chan and larp.
If you're asking if I've ever seen posts asking for money directly from a Q post, I've not seen something that blatant personally.
Have a seen a fuck load of WWG1WGA sites and merch and other bullshit groups asking for money? Yup.
Is there any way to say its never happened or how frequent it has happened given how easy it is to do anything in the name of a single character?
Its a moot point and means absolutely nothing, the goal isn't always direct financial gain, the goal could be as simple as distraction or as complex as destroying credibility of cables or ideas that hit too close to truth.
Its not as simplistic as youre implying and I won't waste more time with that thought beyond this post.
As an old TD poster, I couldn't agree more. Its gone off the fucking rails with conspiracy shit..
Even friends I had red pilled since 2016 have stepped back and told me they think ots fucked...its legit driven away people I know are pro MAGA because they find that shit so cringey.
Its been hard to defend some of it man, I ont lie...its felt like a culture shift.
For the sake of saying it, the Q shit is fucking retarded and makes us look as batshit crazy as the left and I despise it.
Not a doomer, love MAGA and POTUS but this Q shit is ridiculous and makes it hard for me to legitimately get friends to read shit here and get red pilled without them dismissing it as soon as they see some dumb Q shit.
Lots, I've been lurking the chans forever and while SOME of the original posts had some voracity, most of what has come to some level of fruition has been vague enough that someone dialed in with enough intelligence could surmise a lot of it.
Do I believe it's possible that the initial cables were real or that someone may have leaked some insider info at some point, sure it's possible.
Do I believe that the Q bs that we've seen for the past year or two is the same person or even remotely real? Not at all.
Why? Because if you know anything about intelligence or anything like that, you'd know that once something like Q got even a remote amount of attention, no sane person who DID have real information would ever use it again. It would be burned and never, ever, used. That's trivial deduction to anyone with even a modicum of common sense or intelligence.
People need to get their head out of fantasy land, shit isn't like the movies, there isn't one brave patriot on the inside leaking shit to you about the super secret tick tock plans. Someone who has that kind of information has a LOT to lose by letting it get out (thus a pseudonym) and there is grave fucking consequences associated with it (to wit: Snowden, Assange and other unsung heroes). It may have had its genesis in one connected patriot at some point, or some autist with connections being told something they shouldn't have known about and sharing, but it's long since been other autists having fun or trolling at the expense of people who aren't smart enough to see through it.
It's gotten less and less believable, more and more infused with absurdity and almost ALWAYS is exactly what people want to hear, it's no different than the ridiculous circle jerks you see in /r/politics on reddit where people believe shit that has direct contradicting evidence readily available.... something WE mock them for doing... yet there are people here who want to believe it SO bad, they will do their own mental gymnastics to ignore that very fucking obvious truth and lose their glue over people calling it out, including going on witch hunts and branding anyone who calls out the very, VERY obvious bullshit of it "traitors" etc. It's pathetic group think and we are supposed to be above that, it's one of the central tenets of what separates us from the fever dream delusions of the leftists.
I couldn't care less if bitter Q-tards downvote these comments into oblivion, that shit is embarrassing, it makes us look as delusional as the left is and no better than their echo chamber circle jerk lunacy and I refuse to take it seriously.
I love Trump and MAGA and i've been here with the movement since it began and I have no intention to go anywhere or have any of that change, regardless of what happens with POTUS, but I won't pretend that Q bullshit is gospel just because some dummies want to believe in it and will try and silence me for saying otherwise.
It's dark times, people need their hopium and I'm not begrudging that... we will find a way forward, but it's not with fucking Q and the sooner people realize how ridiculous and unproductive that larp is, the better.
If you don't believe me, lurk the fuckin chans for awhile and see what they say about Q and about people posting it here, it's not flattering and there is a reason for that.
Better to be honest and take the slings of those who don't understand than to be a fool and fall for the ruse of charlatans.
Q shit is an embarrassment.
I think Trump is great and I hope he will be fine in the post 1st term era, but the Q shit always takes legitimate hopes and well wishes and amplifies them 100 fold straight into ridiculous crazy town by looping in every conspiracy out there, even the ones with no veracity to them.
It goes from something we all believe in, like the left are a bunch of godless degenerates that pander to the lowest common denominator and changes it into they are alien lizards who drink blood and are cooperating with Xenu and the devil to force you against your will to cut off your penis.
Its a half truth, where the left IS pushing vile wokeism, but they attach ridiculous, unprovable side theories to that, and that makes it hard for me to take seriously.
I'm a patriot through and through, but im also grounded in reality, I don't live on hopium and over zealous delusion like the left does.
And the people who keep saying Q has been right about X or Y do some serious left style mental gymnastics to ignore the NUMEROUS occasions where its been wrong and disproven.
Q is a larp from the chans and always has been, it just got taken too far and became its own entity.
The issue for me is that it takes away legitimacy from some REAL conspiratorial shit that we've known is right, like Obama spying on Trump, the left and big tech oppressing everyone who doesn't think like them etc.
Its so effective at delegitimizing some REAL issues for the right that I often wonder if a lot of it is a plant, especially when you see how quickly posts questioning it get downvoted but very little counter points to criticisms of it proffered.
I believe there is a way forward for Trump and the right, but its not by diving headlong into the flat earth / Q larps.. thats for fucking sure.
There are means to fix these issues.
I understand you're hurting pede, and I understand feeling that it's futile, but do you really think that giving up, lashing out at fellow patriots and telling everyone to "fuck" themselves is going to make things better?
Do you think that is what patriots should do? Give up when it gets hard and turn on their own?
I think we are better than that and I forgive you for your anger and momentary falter.
All I ask is that you remember we want the same thing, we can work together and we can move forward.. but we can't do it alone and we certainly can't do it if we fracture and turn on each other.
Stay strong, there is more to be done.
Yes, we can work to make the necessary changes and utilize the system to our advantage. We can organize grass roots exactly like the Dems did and turn out more people. We can oust those who are not part of the MAGA cause.
All is not lost, there are means to move forward, giving up is for weak losers and if there is anything we are not, it's weak or losers.
No, you were right to post. Facts don't care about u/Friar_Pede 's feelings.
Yeah man VOAT went to shit fast.
They had some cool ideas like transparent mod logs and all kinds of things including showing peoples downvote counts and such too. It shows who really interacts and contributed to a community and those that just lurk.
I like all that stuff for helping show the kinds of people you can trust vs shills.
But most of that good was undone by the sheer idiocy of the people posting there.
I've been contacting the mods of TD a bunch and expressed my interest in running the subs I had there, here on td.win because I'd love to share good content and help curate some good communities.
Sounds like that's the plan post election cycle and I'm looking forward to it, would be sick to finally have a proper alternative to reddit, which is what voat aspired to be in theory but never actually attained in practice.
Yup, it was way over the top bullshit. These people are cancer and should be rooted out. They're not pro MAGA, theyre trying to undermine the cause like good shills for the left. I know people balk at talks of optics, but what these idiots are doing is 100% about optics because they will post this shit and doctor it to say we support that kind of content in order to try and slow us down.
The only way they can win is through subterfuge, we have to be adamant and can't let them permeate and poison what we've created.
Please never do this fucking ridiculous clap horseshit ever again, you're better than this pede.