A lot of people here are now blackpilled into thinking that no future elections or votes matter. If the Dems trusted their ability to steal in the future they would not try to prevent Trump from running in the future, or try to abolish the Electoral College.
Being blackpilled into inaction is the worst possible thing you can do. Be blackpilled into using your anger to do more, than ever before!
The system can be fought, especially since now we know the various ways they have cheated.
We also know the GOP are pussies so we can pressure them to do what we want.
This community was at its best when we ran mail and phone campaigns to impact things. We should start lighting fires under the reps asses again! This matters, no matter how the next days play out.
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Here is an example email. I am sure others can add to it or improve on it, please do so, if you can, and I will edit it.
===============example mail begins===============
Dear <name of rep>,
the American people's trust in the elections and its representatives is at an all time low.
People like me do not feel that are voices are heard, or that our concerns are addressed and acted upon.
People like me feel that we are being taxed without being represented. We do not feel that the GOP we have donated to and voted for are representing us in the way we deserve.
Trust in the following is especially in ruins:
- any vote tabulation system, including, but not limited to Dominion
- mail-in ballots and their security
- bodies passing election-related regulations without having the authority to do so
- vote observers and counters acting or being allowed to act according to the regulations
- state legislatures failing to perform proper auditing of the results despite many asking for it
- destruction of election-related evidence, which is illegal
- voter rolls being maintained as they should, allowing only people to vote who have a standing to do so
I would like to ask you to work for your contituents so that people like me can gain back our trust in the elections and our representatives.
I will happily donate to and vote for the GOP in the future if I feel it represents me the way it should.
Thank you for your time,
<your name>
================example mail ends================
Yes, include the sentence about happily donating to and voting for the GOP. That sentence is the way to let them know what they have lost, and what they risk, whilst not being aggressive about it. Even if this is not the way you feel.
I am not a US pede, so I am not even sure if I have used the right terms above. Let me know if anything needs to be corrected.
If you want to do something productive while holding the line, and know of a company that advertises on FB, send them a variant of the below email (rephrase it a bit).
Have the subject be for example "I will never pay for your products or services ever again".
The majority of FB revenue comes from advertising, and most of it from small- to middle-sized companies. If enough people contact them they might drop their advertisements.
Also, remember the companies that tried to force FB to censor more last year? Make every effort to not give them money: https://archive.is/d9WFr
Also also, deny commie websites the web traffic they need to stay relevant by using an archive service before you link to them: https://archive.is.
If you know of any company that advertises on FB drop their contact email in the replies so pedes will know who to send these to.
Let me know if this can be improved in any way and I will do so.
Dear Sir / Madam,
Facebook has declared itself to be above the Freedom of Speech, something I will not stand for. Your company is providing Facebook with revenue in the form of advertisements.
I will make it a mission of mine to never pay for your products or services ever again as long as you are advertising on Facebook. I will attempt to talk everyone out of doing so every chance I get.
If you stop advertising on Facebook I will reverse this decision.
A Disgruntled Free Speech Advocate
And no, a sitting VP cannot simply throw out electoral votes. If that was possible no incumbent President would lose as long as they win at least one state, as then their VP would simply throw out the results of all other states.
Not saying there is no reason to hate Pence, but this one is not valid IMHO. All we needed was one state legislature to grow balls, but nobody wanted to be the first to give Trump the victory.
They should be bombarded with calls, mails, and in person protests to tell them they have fucked it up for all of us.
- Because Trump asked you to. You should need no other reason really, and should throw away your disappointment and blackpill for this reason already. Do what he asked you to do. What if it is an important point of his strategy, and you are actively undermining that by not voting?
- Because losing the Senate majority is not a good idea. Yes, I know there are RINOs, backstabbers, and so on. So why make it even more difficult for yourself? Especially since we desperately need more Senators to object on the 6th.
- Because Trump asking people to do something, and then few people actually doing it undermines all other arguments, and can be used to further the fake narrative that he does not have many people supporting him.
- Because the only reason it is easy to show normies that the election was rigged was because of record turnout. If there is record turnout in GA that will make their lives harder, no matter what. Why wouldn't you make your enemies life harder with such a simple thing?
- Because we now know of several ways how they have cheated, and might be able to prevent or even expose them this time around. If a bunch of pedes stand around the counting location all night long the ballot-drop trick will not work for example. Imagine if they try it, pedes stop the people who try to smuggle in ballots, take it from them and upload videos of the whole thing.
- Because this time around this is a single election, not a country-wide one, meaning a lot more attention can be focused on it, then previously.
- Because if they get caught in the act and are exposed that could push more politicians to object the next day.
- Because with all the attention on the steal people who would attempt to cheat might think twice about doing it this time around, especially with many people coming and going during the day.
- Because if they cheat, and are exposed, that also destroys the narrative that we can fix this "next time around".
There are probably more that I have not even thought of off the top of my head.
I know there are a lot of "mights" above, but if you don't go and vote, those will be gone for sure. If enough people vote, they can result in something.
Also, GEOTUS asked you to fucking go and vote, so why wouldn't you?
Calls and mails do seem to have some effect, but not nearly enough. Some angry but peaceful protesting could work, but it does not look like anyone is doing that. They still appear to be convinced that certifying for Trump is the worse alternative.
Also, how many Republicans are openly supporting Trump so far? 10%? They could do with some reminding too.
Hi pedes, I am trying to figure out how the whole contested electoral votes thing works. Can somebody help me understand it?
We have seven states, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, that sent dueling electors, so both Trump and Biden got the electoral votes.
On January 6th, we need one Senator and one Representative from each of the above states, to challenge the votes in their given state.
Then Pence can order a two hour debate to try and settle things. In the end, the entirety of the Senate (R majority of 50-48, including Pence, who can be a tiebreaker if it ends up being 48-48 because of some RINOs) and the entirety of the House (Dem 222 - Rep 211) votes on the result.
Only if both votes for the alternate electors can those be picked by Pence, otherwise it goes to the certified candidate, which is Biden.
I am not even a US pede, and possibly got some or all of it wrong, but if this is how it is, then there is no way in hell this plan will work. Simply because of the Dem House majority.
Anyone?
I was surprised how fast SCOTUS rejected the Texas case, but it has dawned on me that if almost all justices wanted to hurt Trump this is the exact opposite of what they would have done. They could have dragged it out until Monday at least, or even longer, beyond the date of the electors voting.
Instead of that, we got the rejection very fast. And the explanation as to why it was rejected was included in it, which helps anyone who wants to file a new lawsuit that is "corrected". Just as Sidney Powell did in all four states, by the way: https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/status/1337597433283571712. And the ruling came before the weekend, which gives two extra days to work on the new cases.
And if you check the ruling it even mentioned that the standing thing was the only detail they have ruled on, as ruling on any other details - such as the unconstitutionality of the actions taken by the four states - was moot.
Just food for thought.
I know a lot of pedes here are disillusioned about the Georgia runoff elections, and are considering not voting.
That is the worst possible thing you can do.
The entire reason why we stand a chance to fight all of this is because the red turnout was so massive they had to cheat to literally impossible levels.
Every pede that could vote in the runoff but chooses not to allows them to have to cheat one less vote, helping them.
Also, GEOTUS told you to go and vote. Why would you not do so?
You know that they will be stupid enough to cheat. They never learn from their mistake.
Catching them in the act and exposing it to the world might become the best proof of widespread voter fraud, and the greatest contirbution this community can make to the effort of fighting them.
Furthermore, we now know of several of their methods that they have used to cheat and can come up with ways to prevent them from pulling it off again, or at least exposing that they are doing it.
4 AM ballot drops? Have a bunch of pedes stand around the building all night long. Anybody shows up with bags or boxes, stop them, call the police on them, make a scene, record everything, take whatever they try to get in the building, check and film what is inside it, and so on. If you have your car nearby, shove it in the trunk and get out of there to check and film it a little further away.
During the count, record everything, if you are allowed. Have to stand six feet away? Do so, but reach out with your arm with your phone in it, that is more, than a feet closer. If you can take cameras, and place them, do it, and point them at the democrat counters, in a way that nothing can obstruct it. If they try to throw you out, refuse to leave until they force you out. The less time they have to cheat, the better.
If they take both seats Kamala Harris will be the deciding vote in the Senate, if I am not mistaken (somebody verify this). That is definitely not something we want. Even if we secure the presidency, we should not give them any extra power, especially such a powerful one.
If we put our heads together we can come up with a list of things we can do, to either prevent their cheat, or expose it.
Win-win.
Edit 1: It might sound too early to talk about this, but we are already past the registration date. Hopefully you have registered.
Edit 2: Early voting begins December 14th, just five days from now. To me it makes sense that you DO NOT vote early, as that would give them more information on how much they need to cheat. But DO vote in person, as it is more difficult for them to toss your vote that way.
Edit 3: Used this as source, hopefully it is truthful: https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_runoff_elections_in_Georgia_(January_5,_2021)
Source:
https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1336359367650779136
Republicans that blocked the motion:
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) https://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=ContactForm
Senator Roy Blunt (R-MO) https://www.blunt.senate.gov/contact/contact-roy
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) https://kevinmccarthy.house.gov/contact/email-me
I am a non-US pede, someone verify I got these right, and tell me if there are other ways to contact (direct email address, phone number, and so on), and I will update this.
Hopefully they won't change their minds.
Do not assume we have it in the bag. Trust the plan, but do whatever you can to help it. Call, send mails, DMs, show up to rallies, keep an eye on Dominion machine locations, whatever you can do, do it!
Many on the left are or will gear up with more disinformation, road blocks, and the like. They will pull out all the tricks they can think of. They will fight dirty.
They have thought they had it in the bag, and grew complacent.
We cannot afford to make the same mistake.
Some patriot has been trailing some of the voting machines that are subject to being wiped. That is the kind of activity you need! This should be done everywhere, but at the very least in the battleground states.
DO NOT BECOME PASSIVE!
Hi all, there might be some public hearings about the 2020 elections in Arizona, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. It might be a nothingburger, but we cannot miss a single opportunity to make gains and make our case stronger. Remember, we only need fo flip one state and the rest will fall like dominions.
I do not know if these will be face to face hearings, probably not, but Zoom calls, or similar. We need to flood them with pedes, and somebody who can talk fast but clear and concise can bring up good arguments (no lispy queer pedes, please! Love you otherwise!). Here is a list of them I could think of, in the order I would bring them up (there might not be enough time to get to all of them so the strongest points need to be made first).
- Properly verifying the late night (3-4 AM) mail-in ballot drops can be done relatively fast, easy, and cheap.
- Any mail-in ballot that does not have creases on it can be discarded right away without the need to verify it further, as it is guaranteed to be fraudulent. It is impossible that such a mail-in ballot was properly mailed in its envelope, as it must be folded for that, and folding leaves creases. These do not need to be checked beyond that, significantly speeding up the process.
- Many polls show that tens of millions of people, including many Democrat voters believe there was fraud, not investigating properly will disenfranchise those people completely (examples of such polls: https://thedonald.win/p/11QRyKfhDh/poll-79-percent-of-trump-voters-/c/ and https://thedonald.win/p/11QS2tMWc4/cnbc-poll--97-of-trump-supporter/c/).
- Many examples of at least the possibility of impropriety, possibly fraud: https://hereistheevidence.com, filter for the state in question (if you can show stuff, show the whole page first, it is overwhelming). Even the MICHIGAN SUPREME COURT finds there is SUBSTANTIATED EVIDENCE of troubling and serious allegations of VOTER FRAUD AND IRREGULARITIES.
- A proper verification should be done to restore people's faith in the elections, and their representatives, as they feel their votes do not matter, and their representatives are not representing them.
- Proper verification means these ballots are checked for creases, that the voter was eligible to vote (alive, fulfills residency requirements, have not moved recently & have not voted twice, signature matches, and so on).
- This should be done in a way that cameras show and record everything the verifiers do, clearly, with the footage being streamed so voters can see and verify it for themselves. Put masks on everyone involved, and put up a transparent plexiglass between the verifiers and the observers, so that observers can be a single feet away and there would still be no chance of covid transfer.
- One D and one R observer at least, per verifier, with both of them able to see what is happening clearly.
- Independent observers to be allowed at least nearby.
- No changes to rules during the process.
- People are asking for little (proper verification of the mail-in ballots), why would you not do that when so many people of all walks of life want this to happen?
Some other good arguments that nonetheless might be taken as intimidating (by pussies):
- If it turns out there was enough impropriety or fraud and they certify the result will make them complicit.
- Why would people pay taxes if they feel their voices and votes do not matter, and they do not get the kind of representation they deserve?
- These drops might even turn out to be unconstitutional (pending SCOTUS ruling, might not worth to mention it, as the decision has not been made, and Dems there might actually want to get rid of the Constitution).
- 72% of people that voted for GOP / Reps did so because of Trump, and will abandon the party for Trump if they do not fight for this: https://thedonald.win/p/11QS2uWZMK/catturd-only-3-of-trump-voters-b/c/ (bringing up Trump might not be a good idea, many officials dislike or hate him, but this is a strong argument showing the Reps they should grow a spine). People will #WalkAway from the GOP the same way many did with the Dems, maybe to an even greater extent. --- Bringing up the GOP or Trump might actually make liberals inherently treat them as motivation to break the law. Moved item to the bottom of the list.
Keep it simple, focus on people being disenfranchised, how a limited effort can yield great results, and so on. Skip Critical Race Theory, Marxism, Communism, and any other rabbithole.
If you try to get in practice the arguments beforehand, and have everything opened and ready. And, of course, we need to be in there in as great numbers as possible.
Anything else to add? Any mistakes in the arguments above? More arguments I have not thought of, different phrasing for the existing ones to make it better or clearer (English is not my first language)? More examples that can be brought up, more polls, anything? More ways for the Dems to cheat that I have not thought of, and ways to prevent them? Remember, even if this turns into anything at all, even if they adhere to the above points they will still do everything they can to cheat. I will edit to add or improve things if I can.
From u/komenos_9/
If we can get people to commit, then next step is to figure out what the opposition will try to respond with when they hear these points. You know, some of the typical liberal bullshit to get out of following the law. Know the typical responses so we can immediately slap them down. That will also help us be more quick witted in our responses when the liberal banshees inevitably scream and interrupt and cut us off etc.
Not sure if it helps them see anything better, but maybe it will make the counting folx less likely to cheat. Could be worth a try.