I don’t understand what you’re saying. He’s going to open votes in these contested states and read the vote for Biden and tally it. We may get a member of the senate and house to dispute it, but unless you get agreement in both then the EC stands. I guess theoretically he could refuse to do his “duty” but the next person in line would probably just do it. Ignoring to give up power without being able to be inaugurated would just result in a dem hicop, pelosi (assuming she stays speaker) would just become president on 1/20 and put them in position anyways. The same outcome would happen even if Trump was to use the insurrection act, he would have to physically remove Dems from power which isn’t really possible without complete anarchy. It’s also not really wanted outside a few crazies.

Go read the us code. People will say that it’s not constitutional or whatever but unless SCOTUS is willing to see a case then it is.

Even if we could get people to accept this, there is TWO HUGE ISSUES:

1. SCOTUS won’t even hear it, so for now it’s law and a requirement.

2. We would need a majority of state legislature in these states to do something, all state legs have denied all of our claims of fraud. We can only get a few to want to do anything, and we’re dozens of not hundreds of legislatures away in each state from having an effect.

Now lastly, there is nothing Pence or Congress can do to stop the EC vote that happened today without getting some Dems onboard in the house. They can cause a debate/vote but that’s it, it’s useless unless we get a majority of house and senate votes if they do dispute it.

Not really. A state has resent electors before (over 100 years ago), in our current case it’s just the GOP (political party) sending electors. Sure there is time to get the states to certify this, but the fact they wouldn’t even let them inside kinda speaks for the results there.

Depends on the state, but it’s either the SOS/GOV that would have to certify it. Possibly the leg could certify such a thing but I’m not 100% on that. People saying pence has some really duty here are completely wrong, his only job is to read and tally the results, and they have to be certified.

You need one senator and one house member to even entertain the idea. Then you need a majority in both, which I doubt we even have in the senate alone due to RINO’s. Also Pence only job is to read and tally the votes, he’s only allowed to read and tally certified votes, so unless the GOP can get these votes certified by the legislature/Gov/SOS then he won’t ever even get them in hand unfortunately.

No, you need one memeber in both the house and senate to dispute the results. You then need a majority in BOTH the House and Senate to change the EC vote. We won’t get a majority in the house and enough rinos have came out saying we won’t even get it in the senate. This is another long long shot, we lost at the SCOTUS and the only option would be Trump trying the insurrection act which still probably wouldn’t do anything in the long run as speaker would be press after 1/20.

Dude, the governor and Secretary of State refused to even let them inside. This won’t make it to the senate unless it’s certified by either the sos/governor (depending on state) or at a very least the legislature which is disbanded as of right now.

You need one member of congress in both house and senate to dispute. Both the house and senate then have to agree in a vote, if it’s disputed between the two the EC vote stands.

There are like six certified copies amongst record of today’s votes and signings. Get about as far as mac did lol

He can’t simply refuse, the senate and house have to both agree to refuse. Even with the gains in house we still don’t have enough to get there.

It doesn’t even matter if he did. Both the senate and house have to agree, if they don’t the electors votes stand.

No it’s not. That’s not all that happened. They are upholding each states SC rulings on election matters. They will not intervene in the election. You’re just parroting light hearted bullshit that’s been getting pushed around here the last month instead of getting a dose of reality.

It means they’re not taking a case on any of this.

SCOTUS rejected PA suit. So either GEOTUS makes a move or we get some long shot shit somewhere else.

Dude they are not contested when they are certified. If that was the case Biden and Trump would have a lawsuit in every single state.

Wouldn’t the ruling essentially be if “constitutional clauses can change the constitution and/or interpret it?” If that’s the case they won’t even take the case.

You’re right but you don’t understand the result of congress challenging the results. The Senate and House have to agree, if they do not agree then the EC vote for that state will stand.

Safe Harbor basically says if you don’t have a way of deciding AND fixing the contested issue on the 8th then there is no more time to intervene... Makes a ton of sense when the law was made back in the day.

Go doesn’t determine. If we can’t get the Dem house to agree then it gets reverted to the original EC vote

I’m not holding judgment, i’m just not retarded. Do you think they didn’t know they were being recorded and live streamed? I don’t know the actual context of the situation though because the “volunteers” say the complete opposite.

How is this actual proof. It’s people pulling out boxes of ballots under a table. How do we not know this isn’t the norm? The narrator even says it’s a question not any evidence at all.

All this bullshit getting pushed around here to make people have some kind of fake ass optimistic view is some cuck shit.

Yes they can. Don’t be dumb

Your missing the part were if both the house and senate don’t agree on the contested state the EC college vote stands regardless. You left that part out on purpose for hopeful control.... The deadline is dec 8th to have a “safe harbor” resolution AND RESULT. If we don’t have Trump Electors going by the 8th it’s 100% over outside some untested martial law shit which would probably result in an instant impeachment.